TV in rental property

dylbert

I now TV's in rental properties is a bit of a grey area so I just want to see where I stand before I decide to do anything.

For the past few years I have been renting a room in an owner occupied house so a TV has always been supplied in the living room, a few months ago the owner told me he'd be moving out and would find a new tenant to move in. Two day's before the owner moved out he told me he would be taking the 40" LCD TV with him and replaced it with an old 21" CRT TV, he also never mentioned to the new tenant about this. This week the TV he left us with has stopped working.

What do you think our rights are? Are we entitled to a replacement?

3DataModem

As you are renting a room, your rights are pretty much nil in this regard.

Presumably you are going from rent-a-room to tenant agreement, so the TV situation should be specified in the lease.

youcancallmeal

I wouldn't of thought so as it is not an "essential" item per se. If you could afford it I'd say get the landlord to remove the 21" CRT TV and get your own decent TV and take it with you when leave.

listermint

Read the lease.

Its not mandatory to provide one.

Mountjoy Mugger

I wouldn't be so sure. The fact that the LL took the other TV and replaced it, would indicate to me that a TV was part of the understanding.

Even if it's not; I'd make sure you informed him about the demise of the TV, just in case he tried to charge you for it when you leave..

Ray Palmer

Technically you moved from being a lodger to being a tenant. Different rules apply now. I think you can claim a replacement tv but why bother? You can pick up a CRT tv for free. Freecycle and the like have them all the time.
You are are now liable for a tv licence too.

odds_on

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Technically you moved from being a lodger to being a tenant. Different rules apply now. I think you can claim a replacement tv but why bother? You can pick up a CRT tv for free. Freecycle and the like have them all the time.
You are are now liable for a tv licence too.

Just wondering about your reasoning for saying that the OP has technically moved from being a lodger to a tenant?

snubbleste

odds_on wrote: »

Just wondering about your reasoning for saying that the OP has technically moved from being a lodger to a tenant?

:cool:

Citizenpain

odds_on wrote: »

Just wondering about your reasoning for saying that the OP has technically moved from being a lodger to a tenant?

Landlord and tenant law is covered by the Landlord and Tenant Acts 1967 to 1994 and the Residential Tenancies Act 2004 -- Rent a room arangements are not covered by these

Grolschevik

odds_on wrote: »

Just wondering about your reasoning for saying that the OP has technically moved from being a lodger to a tenant?

This:

dylbert wrote: »

For the past few years I have been renting a room in an owner occupied house...

a few months ago the owner told me he'd be moving out and would find a new tenant to move in...

the owner moved out...

Ray Palmer

odds_on wrote: »

Just wondering about your reasoning for saying that the OP has technically moved from being a lodger to a tenant?

When you live with the owner occupier you are a lodger. Once he moved out he became a tenant which brings different rights. Lodgers can be asked to leave immediately for example

mel.b

I was in a similar situation - renting a room (however the landlord wasn't living there). When I moved in, there was a tv there. Couple of years later, the tv died. Initially the landlord wanted me to get the new tv, however realised quickly that if i moved out at any time, it would leave the other tenants without a tv, so they purchased one. The landlord picked up a decent tv and stand off donedeal for 150E.

ted1

Couple of things, who pays the tv licence. If he was your now responsible for it.

Did he leave a saor view box? Tell him you cancelled sky or UPC and the television doesn't work,
As there was a TV available when you moved in, you expect it to be there now.

odds_on

Ray Palmer wrote: »

When you live with the owner occupier you are a lodger. Once he moved out he became a tenant which brings different rights. Lodgers can be asked to leave immediately for example

According to a document on the PRTB website, Licensees in Private Rented Accommodation:
A licensee is a person who occupies accommodation under licence. Licensees can arise in all
sorts of accommodation but most commonly in the following four areas;
(a) persons staying in hotels, guesthouses, hostels, etc.,
(b) persons sharing a house/apartment with its owner e.g. under the ‘rent a room’ scheme
or ‘in digs’,
(c) persons occupying accommodation in which the owner is not resident under a formal licence arrangement with the owner where the occupants are not entitled to its exclusive use and the owner has continuing access to the accommodation and/or can move around or change the occupants, and
(d) persons staying in rented accommodation at the invitation of the tenant.

As I understand from para (c) above, the owner does not have to be resident fot the occupant to be a licensee/lodger, provided a formal license agreement is in existence.

Lawrence1895

I lived in 5 different places so far, only one of them had a TV in it. So my guess is, the landlord is not obliged to provide a TV.

gaius c

Oftentimes you're better off buying your own tv as anything supplied with the let will be rubbish.

riclad

You can get a tv from adverts ie, free ,
or jumbletown, most people are getting rid of their crt tvs.
You need a car or taxi to collect the tv, if its more than 15inch.