Swansea (2) V Chelsea (0), Capital 1 Cup, K/O 7:45pm Sky Sports

niallo27

Kirby wrote: »

Yes there was contact. Because Ba kicked him.

And leaving that aside, just because there was "contact" doesn't make it a foul. People falling over after "contact" are simulating falling over. It's cheating.

He ran into him, he didn't kick him. It wasn't a penalty for me but sometimes there is contact in the box by a defender. It might not be enough for the attacker to go down but if he loses the ball because of this contact I think he is entitled to go down if that makes sense.

Mushy

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

Its like watching Jack Charlton's Irish team here , long ball central !

Pitch conditions don't really suit fancy football. Can see the ball lagging a bit.

Kirby

niallo27 wrote: »

if he loses the ball because of this contact I think he is entitled to go down if that makes sense.

This is where we will have to agree to disagree. We have very different views on this. If a player "goes down" when he can easily stay on his feet, he's cheating. The culture that the Shearer's and Owen's of this world have engendered and advocated is disgusting in my opinion. The idea that a player has every right to pretend to be upended, to highlight a foul to the ref.....it holds no water with me. It's just a fancy way of excusing cheating.

It's the very antithesis of sportsmanship and it has no place in the beautiful game.

Swansea really are a nice side to watch anyway. A team full of footballers. Nobody is afraid of the ball . They all want it.

klose

Thats twice tremmel has passed the ball straight to chelsea from useless kicking.

pistolpetes11

Mushy wrote: »

Pitch conditions don't really suit fancy football. Can see the ball lagging a bit.

Does not seem to be bothering Swansea much ,

There playing pretty well , leaving Chelsea players with little or no time on the ball

Mushy

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

Does not seem to be bothering Swansea much ,

There playing pretty well , leaving Chelsea players with little or no time on the ball

They're just sticking to their normal game. Its still affecting them. Just doing enough so far.

born2bwild

Warranted a red card imo

klose

Another awful challenge from ramires like against arsenal

KingdomYid

Ones minute Hazard is in agony and next sprinting for the ball :rolleyes:

dubmick

Always thought Ramires was a dirty player

kingshankly

Hazard has been very poor

GavRedKing

Terrible 1st half so far. Swansea going through all day long unless we drastically up the tempo and performance.

niallo27

Kirby wrote: »

This is where we will have to agree to disagree. We have very different views on this. If a player "goes down" when he can easily stay on his feet, he's cheating. The culture that the Shearer's and Owen's of this world have engendered and advocated is disgusting in my opinion. The idea that a player has every right to pretend to be upended, to highlight a foul to the ref.....it holds no water with me. It's just a fancy way of excusing cheating.

It's the very antithesis of sportsmanship and it has no place in the beautiful game.

Swansea really are a nice side to watch anyway. A team full of footballers. Nobody is afraid of the ball . They all want it.

Are defenders not cheating us of great goals if they are allowed to get away with sneaky pull backs fouls with slight contact that stop a goal scoring opportunity.

Crann na Beatha

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homer simpson

Shocking poor first half of hoofball, suiting Swansea down to the ground. Chelsea need a goal early on in the second half to have a hope IMO.

Panthro

Swansea will take some beating.
Nothing there to write home about.

Panthro

Phoenix wrote: »

What can Rafa do to change this?

Stick on Torr...

Nah, I'm shytting with you!:D

homer simpson

Phoenix wrote: »

What can Rafa do to change this?

Well I know what he shouldn't do ... bring on Torres!

GavRedKing

Game needs MORE Torres!!! Preferablly on the RW....for Lamps....at half time. :pac:

grumpymunster

Ram off and either Sideshow on or drop Oscar back and bring Marin on we have been toothless

GavRedKing

The faster Ivanovic is dropped for JT or Luiz the better.

KingdomYid

get up Hazard you softie

GavRedKing

F**k sake!!

GavRedKing

Watch ivanovic score from this now....

GavRedKing

Thats bloody useless again from Ivanovic.....

kingshankly

Ivanovic must be a Swansea supporter

homer simpson

What is with the annoying persistence in trying to get Ivan & Cahill to hoof the ball aimlessly up field. They are not coming close to a blue shirt in the slightest.

GavRedKing

We need lamps or ramires to come for the short ball and play from the cbs....hoofing isnt working at all.

GavRedKing

Those kind of half chances is all were creating.

GavRedKing

Big lump on Brittons head

Andersonisgod

The Ramires/Lampard midfield is so poor. Neither look in any way likely to make a telling pass.

GavRedKing

Andersonisgod wrote: »

The Ramires/Lampard midfield is so poor. Neither look in any way likely to make a telling pass.

It worked against Arsenal as Mata hazard oscar were playing well. None are playing well now.

Lamps shot sums it up, very wasteful ffs.

Garzorico

Not happening tonight for the Mighty Blues. Whole midfield is muck.

kingshankly

Ramirez misplaces a 3 yard pass shocking stuff

GavRedKing

Rafa needs to whip Hazard or at least change it up nothing is going right.

GavRedKing

Ramires is having a nightmare too ffs

Hank Scorpio

May as well get another striker on now, do or die time!

edit: Luiz coming on

kingshankly

This is so comfortable for swansea

GavRedKing

Makes no sense....unless luiz is playing more advanced.

GavRedKing

Needs Torres on to play up top soon.

niallo27

This is all very tame from Chelsea, expecting bit of a fight from them. It's been a ****e game.

grumpymunster

GavRedKing wrote: »

Ramires is having a nightmare too ffs

Should have been hauled ashore at half time we need a goal so change our centre half excellent genius even

pistolpetes11

Oscar has been absolutely dire this evening , Ramieres been very poor also ,

Ba has had no service all night , I am Usually saying that about Torres and blaming him

Cant see anything other than Swansea going through

pistolpetes11

Come on Rafa the master tactician , bloody do something

GavRedKing

We dont look like scpring one, let alone two.

Garzorico

If we get 1 we'll get a couple. Way to comfortable for Swansea.

GavRedKing

Good save.

GavRedKing

Cahill upfront again? Get on torres for ramires ffs

grumpymunster

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

Oscar has been absolutely dire this evening , Ramieres been very poor also ,

Ba has had no service all night , I am Usually saying that about Torres and blaming him

Cant see anything other than Swansea going through

Think Oscar ok for someone playing out f position. Ram should be off and Oscar back there pop Marin or Torres up front don't matter at this stage

Garzorico

I'd say Capital One are delighted.

Swansea v Bradford final. Glamour final.