Under The Dome [CBS - US] [** Spoilers **] (Warning in OP)

Bacchus

Very solid opener. King adaptations are very hit and miss, this has the makings of a hit. The characters have translated seemlessly from page to screen, the sub plots have been nicely established (Big Jim & the propane, Junior's a pyscho, Barbie, the kids having the seizures) and it's managed to not come off at all cheesy or ridiculous. Looking forward to seeing how they approach what's going on in the outside world.

Also, this must be what it's like for the book readers in the Game of Thrones forum Very happy though that they've said they are diverging slight from the book (the ending in particular) so there might be a few surprises along the way.

dark crystal

Richard Dower wrote: »

Season opener out, passing on this myself.

Richard Dower wrote: »

good opener, and britt robertson is a fave of mine, massive numbers!

13.1 million and a huge 3.2 demo!!!!! http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/06/25/under-the-dome-premiere-delivers-3-2-adults-18-49-rating-13-1-million-viewers/188850/

Anyway.....

Intriguing start to the season. I'll definitely be watching next week and look forward to getting to know some of the characters better, especially Big Jim and his psycho son!

Richard Dower

dark crystal wrote: »

Anyway.....

Intriguing start to the season. I'll definitely be watching next week and look forward to getting to know some of the characters better, especially Big Jim and his psycho son!

I'm weird....just go with it.......;)

calex71

Have to say this was much better than I had hoped, I'm not a huge King fan, well I loved the dark tower series of books and the book for this one, as said the book end was rubbish but for me it was all about the characters they were superb, don't think I've ever hated someone so much in print as I did Big Jim he was a loathsome bastard, hopefully that aspect is done well on screen.

Not sure if there are the numbers to warrant it but perhaps a book spoilers thread is in order???, can be annoying for non-readers to us saying x y z is the same or different every week.

don ramo

calex71 wrote: »

Have to say this was much better than I had hoped, I'm not a huge King fan, well I loved the dark tower series of books and the book for this one, as said the book end was rubbish but for me it was all about the characters they were superb, don't think I've ever hated someone so much in print as I did Big Jim he was a loathsome bastard, hopefully that aspect is done well on screen.

Not sure if there are the numbers to warrant it but perhaps a book spoilers thread is in order???, can be annoying for non-readers to us saying x y z is the same or different every week.

i always say dedicated book spoiler thread are good, but only if the show has a dedicated forum, like game of thrones and the walking dead, you can start a book spoiler thread if you want, most likely it will die off and get buried with all the activity in this forum, but noting stopping you from making it,

JP Liz V1

don ramo wrote: »

pretty decent start, a lot of interesting characters and lot of storylines set-up that should fill out a 13 episode season nicely,

i was surprised they killed off the sheriff so early in it, and there really seems to be something very sinister about dean norris councilman character, and his son is probably even worse it looks,

Yes it is a shame Jeff Fahey's Sheriff was killed off in the pilot by an exploding pacemaker

Barbie is hot :P

naughto

watched the 1st ep there very good opener loads of crap going on will def keep watching.the cow getting cut in half:pac::pac:

wandatowell

That was quality!

Richard Dower

wandatowell wrote: »

That was quality!

meat!....that cow would make a great .gif :P

don ramo

Richard Dower wrote: »

meat!....that cow would make a great .gif :P

FloatingVoter

Ep.2 out now. No cows were injured in this installment. A vital safety lesson is included about firing live rounds at immovable objects. There is also a tutorial on how not to burn rubbish.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Apart from the absolute stupidity of Coggins, thought it was a great second episode and managed to keep the action going...

It seems to be moving almost entirely away from the book at this point, so should be plenty of surprises for the readers as well as the non-readers...

expectationlost

some silly bits, junior went from normal boy to pyscho in 6 seconds without explaination

i don't think drugs could explain the actions of the priest

the doctor fella was very old maybe redhead is need of some younger blood, but barbie is such a bad liar

and why weren't we shown the kid communicating with the scientist on the other side, and then later when the guy said the smoke was going to kept inside, we get a shot of the kid but he doesn't say anything, shouldn't smoke have been rising through the dome a little bit

if i was them i'd map it and go to the center in ep one,

Richard Dower

don ramo wrote: »

The cow got cut......:(

Bacchus

Excellent second episode. Just the right mix of progression on local sh*t (Junior, the propane, Barbie) and dome mystery (the kid maping it, stumbling on to the army experiment with the water, the radio station). They're also approaching the reality of the situation in great detail - Barbie hoarding cigarettes, the cemetery on the other side of the dome, the danger fire now presents, the first person to get cabin fever. Good stuff.

expectationlost wrote: »

some silly bits, junior went fomr normal boy to pyscho in 6 seconds without explaination

He seems like he was always quite unbalanced. He's just snapped. Quite enjoying that plot line.

expectationlost wrote: »

i don't think drugs could explain the actions of the priest

I think they do. He was high and careless, leading to the fire.

expectationlost wrote: »

and why weren't we shown the kid communicating with the scientist on the other side, and then later when the guy said the smoke was going to kept inside, we get a shot of the kid but he doesn't say anything, shouldn't smoke have been rising through the dome a little bit

I kinda wish he had shown the scientists... how else would they know the results. As for the water passing through but the smoke not....very minor, probably not even, book spoiler

the water was being pushed through at high pressure from the hose, the smoke was just... floating around

expectationlost wrote: »

if i was them i'd amp it and go to the center in ep one,

I'm liking the kids exploration of the dome. I expect they'all start thinking about the centre point soon.

missingtime

The pilot was quite good I thought, built up the story nicely and had a nice bit of mystery.

The second was only ok there are aome very annoying characters and some terrible acting.

We'll see how it develops, hopefully the acting gets better though.

wandatowell

Well said bacchus.


I didnt like how Truman the dog just ran off with the lads. I dont know why, I just dont

CastorTroy

wandatowell wrote: »

Well said bacchus.


I didnt like how Truman the dog just ran off with the lads. I dont know why, I just dont

I thought the same. He stood there all that time with his owner's legs then went easily with the boys.

How long until Angie is noticed to be missing? And Junior was showing how unhinged he was getting when he grabbed Angie before the Dome came down/went up(Hasn't said yet whether it came from above or below)

Someone was worried about running out of air, but they should be okay with the amount of trees around. Other things will be a problem though with rationing having to start soon.

Nice to see Samantha Mathis in something as well.

wandatowell

CastorTroy wrote: »

Other things will be a problem though with rationing having to start soon.

There's a fine slab of beef just waiting to be bbq'd.


Anybody read the book? Does the book go into rationing much?

Also Starring LeVar Burton

wandatowell wrote: »

There's a fine slab of beef just waiting to be bbq'd.


Anybody read the book? Does the book go into rationing much?

Eventually

Richard Dower

http://kotaku.com/is-under-the-dome-kinda-just-under-the-dumb-651636673

Bacchus

wandatowell wrote: »

Well said bacchus.


I didnt like how Truman the dog just ran off with the lads. I dont know why, I just dont

I LOL'd when this happened... I imagined the train of thought in the dogs head... "Buh bye old owner! These owners can run!"

CastorTroy wrote: »

How long until Angie is noticed to be missing? And Junior was showing how unhinged he was getting when he grabbed Angie before the Dome came down/went up(Hasn't said yet whether it came from above or below)

Is it only the brother she has that would be looking out for her? He's doing stuff so might not have noticed yet. It's only the 2nd day of it now I think and she was kidnapped on the first night.

Also, it came down, we saw it fall and the impact it made falling. Also, a dome rising up would have had a much different result

wandatowell wrote: »

Anybody read the book? Does the book go into rationing much?

If I recall correctly,

rationing and panic for food was only brought up late in the book, by which time the plot escalated very quickly and that aspect was never really fleshed out.

. Considering this is planned to go for multiple seasons, I expect food rationing will feature heavily in the plot. Also, at this point it's fairly obvious they are diverging a lot from the book. Aside from some key plot points, I expect this will continue so events in the book aren't that relevant.

expectationlost

Bacchus wrote: »

the water was being pushed through at high pressure from the hose, the smoke was just... floating around

i'd consider the heat from burning house as enough pressue, and why did they give us a shot of the boy if not for that reason

DRose1

Meh, some encouraging signs in episode one but episode two was pretty boring tbh. Don't see a whole lot of scope for development over multiple seasons but you never know.

Pretty ironic the role 'Hank' from Breaking Bad has got in this series...

Bacchus

expectationlost wrote: »

i'd consider the heat from burning house as enough pressue, and why did they give us a shot of the boy if not for that reason

Seeing as you've already unspoilered my comment... :P

The water was being power hosed at the dome, gradually seeping through.

The smoke however, was just air molecules floating about. i.e. they weren't being forced through the dome. Also, who says no smoke was getting through. We're only taking one crazy guys word for that. A very small amount could be seeping through for all we know.

I think that shot with the kid and the water was just a nod that the army don't have a clue what it is and are experimenting while giving us a bit more info about the properties of the dome. I do think they could have had some sort of exchange with the scientists in that scene though.

expectationlost

Bacchus wrote: »

Seeing as you've already unspoilered my comment... :P

The water was being power hosed at the dome, gradually seeping through.

The smoke however, was just air molecules floating about. i.e. they weren't being forced through the dome. Also, who says no smoke was getting through. We're only taking one crazy guys word for that. A very small amount could be seeping through for all we know.

I think that shot with the kid and the water was just a nod that the army don't have a clue what it is and are experimenting while giving us a bit more info about the properties of the dome. I do think they could have had some sort of exchange with the scientists in that scene though.

there was no reason for it to be spoilered?

when the crazy guy spoke about the smoke we got a shot of the kid.

a roaring house on fire is pressure, if it did get through you would have seen smoke on the other size of the barrier, i don't know the relative size of the make up of smoke and water, size of what can get through the barrier

stevenmu

There was a lot of water being sprayed at the dome, but only a relatively tiny amount made it through. If a proportionately small amount of smoke made it through, it very possibly wouldn't be visible at all. Especially if you are trying to see it through all the smoke on the inside.

What I didn't get is why the kid didn't even try to show the scientists that at least some water was getting through.

Bacchus

expectationlost wrote: »

there was no reason for it to be spoilered?

I was just being overly cautious, so as not to spoil any of the mystery of the dome. No harm though really

expectationlost wrote: »

when the crazy guy spoke about the smoke we got a shot of the kid.

I didn't even notice that to be honest. I think that kid is the viewers proxy to learning about the dome so perhaps they are emphasising that he is connecting the dots or that he knows better.

expectationlost wrote: »

a roaring house on fire is pressure, if it did get through you would have seen smoke on the other size of the barrier, i don't know the relative size of the make up of smoke and water, size of what can get through the barrier

It was hardly roaring and heat is a different kind of pressure to physical force. This argument is getting a bit ridiculous at this point TBH. There are better things to discuss than the rate at which smoke passes through the dome vs water.

squonk

I wikipedia'd the book so I have a fair idea of the general story and how it pans out. I'm delighted though to hear people who've read the book say that the show is deviating already from the novel. That'll be very good! Even so, I love the way the story pans out and it will make for great television I'd say. You can certainly see elements of that coming into play now. I just hope they don't go for the book ending really!

naughto

stevenmu wrote: »

There was a lot of water being sprayed at the dome, but only a relatively tiny amount made it through. If a proportionately small amount of smoke made it through, it very possibly wouldn't be visible at all. Especially if you are trying to see it through all the smoke on the inside.

What I didn't get is why the kid didn't even try to show the scientists that at least some water was getting through.

they know that the army/mad scientists cant hear them from inside the dom.
if the smoke cant escape how is there enough air for theme to breath
and why in the name of god did they call your man barbie

CastorTroy

Because his surname's Barbara.

There's obviously something about the dome that light and water(kind of) can get through but sound can't. Want to see other experiments like can heat get through if they were to heat it from the outside and what is it made from that they only get shocked the first time and it affects the machines.
Early days yet.

naughto

CastorTroy wrote: »

Because his surname's Barbara.

There's obviously something about the dome that light and water(kind of) can get through but sound can't. Want to see other experiments like can heat get through if they were to heat it from the outside and what is it made from that they only get shocked the first time and it affects the machines.
Early days yet.

i know is Barbara,could they not get some thing better

Conmaicne Mara

It's a shotgun not a rifle :rolleyes:

Junior is annoying, and stupid, the female cop is getting very angsty too. Cop going postal was very predictable. Fair amount of ohmygodwhatarewegoingtodo Americanism in it, we'll see how it goes.

Footoo

Didn't mind the Pilot but thought the second episode was turgid stuff altogther.

The acting was awful for a start and when the climax of an episode is a load of people trying to put out a fire (with awful sfx btw... i mean there's no excuse for a fire to look - special effects 101), it's not s great start for a show.

I'm all for a slow drip system for unraveling mysteries but it needs to be accompanied by a bit of action, decent characters and decent plotting. This show has none of these at the moment.


Hoping it improves though.

missingtime

The whole house on fire scene was ridiculous I thought, littered with typical American show cheese.

I'm just waiting to see what episode the pregnant woman appears. She always turns up at some point in these types of shows.

CastorTroy

missingtime wrote: »

The whole house on fire scene was ridiculous I thought, littered with typical American show cheese.

I'm just waiting to see what episode the pregnant woman appears. She always turns up at some point in these types of shows.

It'll be during an emergency where she suddenly goes into labour.


So that deputy is the one who played the hot girl from Death Race.

missingtime

CastorTroy wrote: »

It'll be during an emergency where she suddenly goes into labour.

Probably.

It wont take place in the hospital (because that wouldn't have enough of a sense of urgency or danger). And most of the main cast members will be present for some reason or will have been arguing about something trivial.

When the baby is born all the cast members will look at each other giving that look of "look at this new miracle, we've been arguing about something so silly"

stevenmu

Don't forget that the baby will have some kind of magic/alien/superpower, probably being able to pass through the dome (along with the obligatory accelerated growth).

viper006

Footoo wrote: »

Didn't mind the Pilot but thought the second episode was turgid stuff altogther.

The acting was awful for a start and when the climax of an episode is a load of people trying to put out a fire (with awful sfx btw... i mean there's no excuse for a fire to look - special effects 101), it's not s great start for a show.
I'm all for a slow drip system for unraveling mysteries but it needs to be accompanied by a bit of action, decent characters and decent plotting. This show has none of these at the moment.
Hoping it improves though.

This pretty sums up exactly my thoughts after watching the this 2nd episode. The acting was awful, that red haired character who is a journalist is so bad in this show. Still a air of mystery about the show that will keep me watching for another episode but more of the same and il have to leave it off.. heres hoping it gets abit better

Tipsy McSwagger

They have totally deviated from the book which I won't go into for spoiler reasons, but it's a lot darker. There isn't a single likable character you can identify with and root for. The way the fire started was an insult to the viewers intelligence.

calex71

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

They have totally deviated from the book which I won't go into for spoiler reasons, but it's a lot darker. There isn't a single likable character you can identify with and root for. The way the fire started was an insult to the viewers intelligence.

Totally agree after ep2, I had hope after the 1st one but characters were what made the book so good, and the fact that Jim and Jr were so unlikable and loathsome in contrast to Barbie and some others,

SK can't write endings by boy can he write characters, I don't blame the actors here they are working with what they have been given, makes me hope the Dark Tower movie/series never sees the light of day.

Edit: Actual now i think about it when I read the book, actually it was an Audio book each chapter was 40 minutes long, I remember thinking this would make a great tv show, the script is essentially written in the book, it's 40 minutes per chapter /episode long all they need to do was roll camera.

That said I realise there would need to be cuts made here and there to make it shorter and flow a little faster but the book was essentially a screen play.

FloatingVoter

Episode 3 is 42 minutes (yes, I was clock-watching during it) of my life that I'm not getting back.
A mysterious dome engulfs a town and the responsible adults play with guns in the woods while the teenagers get a free house.
Oh, Nancy Drew and her weird friend get lost in the dark but escape due to a matchbook with super powers.
By day three, I'd expect some form of contact with the outside to be established (writing is still impervious to a see-through dome).
I've seen bad SK adaptations before but never one as boring as this. Its not the original books fault - I raced through the 800 odd pages of that in a week.

Richard Dower

So the general opinion is....getting worse with each episode. But it'll still get amazing ratings and get renewed.....lol.

Glad i passed on this turd.

Bacchus

Richard Dower wrote: »

So the general opinion is....getting worse with each episode. But it'll still get amazing ratings and get renewed.....lol.

Glad i passed on this turd.

"General opinion"? One person has posted about the 3rd episode.

I've enjoyed the first 2 episodes anyway, won't judge the 3rd until I see it myself.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

I've loved all 3 episodes so far. Maybe it's because I suspend my disbelief at the door and just get lost in it for what it is - was never expecting it to be The Wire...
Think the casting has been superb, love that it has moved away from the book and taken its own spin, and just genuinely enjoying it...

It's hard to know what to think about the show - it's a decent premise (I must admit that I was put off reading this book due to the sheer size of the original novel), but executed pretty terribly. Many of the actors are just terrible and some are already becoming annoying- but it's likely to become one of those shows I'll watch week in and week out, until the shows I actually love come back or something better appears.

expectationlost

I like nerds

missingtime

I'm enjoying the premise and to a certain extent the suspense but the acting is so wooden and the set pieces are terribly executed.

I'll continue on a bit more but I don't think this is going to be one of my shows.

Reporter girl, 'I like nerds' girl and stoner best friend need stop getting so much screen time. They are very very very annoying.

And I really wish they didn't cross their hands when the go into that fit, it's like some bad Harlem shake video.

dark crystal

Ah, I'm enjoying it! I don't think the acting's too bad at all (except for the female cop - she's terrible).

Yes it could move a tad faster perhaps and I'd like to see more being done to explore and investigate the actual cause of the dome itself, but I'm enjoying getting to know the characters and seeing how the storyline progresses every week.

One question, though....why is the nerdy kid not wondering where his sister is?

naughto

Originally Posted by Richard Dower
Season opener out, passing on this myself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
good opener, and britt robertson is a fave of mine, massive numbers!

13.1 million and a huge 3.2 d

Richard Dower wrote: »

So the general opinion is....getting worse with each episode. But it'll still get amazing ratings and get renewed.....lol.

Glad i passed on this turd.

so why are u still on the thread if u think its crap

filler ep this week nothing happening just boring crap,ll keep watching though cos this could be good.
the woman cop is very bad actor,junior is a pain in the ho1le as well.
chick in the bunker is hot