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Moving to New York

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  • 26-01-2013 6:15pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭


    My company recently offered me the opportunity to move to our new york office which ironically is in new jersey looking across at new york.i have a number of questions about moving which i hope boardsies can help me with here.Firstly, what is the best way to locate accommodation in new york? My partner would be going with me also and as a teacher we were wondering how she would look for work in new york?secondly, we'd rather use buses/trains rather than having a car so are we correct in assuming that the transport links would be very good in new york/new jersey.we'd also like to find out more about the emmigrant scene in new york id imagine there would be a number of similar irish people in new york between 20 and 40 to socialise with does anyone here know of any forum that would have details of this.also, practial item such as setting up utilites such as phone, internet, tv etc. is there anything to be aware of and to look out for? and also would i still pay irish tax rates or would it be US and new york taxes that would apply?thanks!! :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭lilium inter Spinas


    Congratulations on your move to New York! :)

    So besides actually coming to the States to look at apartments, you might consider going online to look for apartment listings in the area you want to live in. Take into account the distance from your job to where you will be living, since that will probably be the most important aspect in the long run (saves you money). New Yorkers, for the most part, use public transportation since traffic and other blunders are a major hassle and there are plenty of options (buses, subways, etc). As far as I know, once you're on US soil, you pay US & local state taxes and no longer required to pay Irish taxes (but don't quote me on this). I'm going to assume that getting a job in NYC is probably similar to any part of the country and say that if you have connections, use them! Your partner might have to be screened by the school district of the county you'll be living in, before she can start working. Also, I believe a work visa will be needed. Your job might be able to assist her in this since she'll be making the move along with you. I would suggest she bring some letters of recommendation from where she currently works (if applicable) and of course all her work history. The more prepared you are the better! Unfortunately that's as far as I can suggest since I don't actually live in NYC, but on the West coast. But I've had friends who've relocated from different countries to NYC before.
    Best of luck to you and your partner. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭lonestargirl


    Your partner won't be able to go with you on your visa unless you are married. Whether or not she'll be able to work depends on the visa that your company are getting for you, spouses of L (intercompany transfers) can work but spouses of H1bs cannot. To get an L visa you have to satisfy a certain number of requirements including having worked for the company for a minimum period of time (i think it's 2 years).


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭slingerz


    thanks for the replies folks! as regards the visa i think my employers are looking after that side of things for me, i assume my partner will need to look into that side of things.

    can you recommend a good site to look up apartment listings? im not sure of the address of our office but its been described as being across from new york city as in it would have views of the city.

    I was thinking that we would prefer to live in NYC however if the office is in New Jersey it might be handier to live near that and commute to NYC whenever we want to hang out there. however we would want to have some place that offers some social outlets so maybe living in NYC and commuting to NJ would be better?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭lilium inter Spinas


    Your partner won't be able to go with you on your visa unless you are married.

    She brought up a good point. My friend was moving to Canada from the States and I remember his job offering to provide his spouse with a work visa... though I'm not sure if the process would've been as easy if they were unmarried. Your partner might have to look into this issue on her own if your job is unable to offer assistance.

    It sounds like your new office is probably on the other side of the river that borders the two states, definitely New Jersey. NYC is typically less affordable than neighboring cities and is pretty over-crowded that it's become the norm to commute from surrounding areas. But hey, if you find an apartment in NYC with all the specs you want, more power to you. :)

    As far as the commute, some key things to consider with regards to social outlets: how often do you plan on going out in a given week? And is the kind of entertainment you want specifically in NYC? Keep in mind, NJ has a lot of key attractions and a culture all it's own. Though if constant lights, noise and excitement is more your thing, definitely consider living in NYC and commuting to NJ just for work.

    The most common site here for apartment hunting is:

    http://www.apartmentfinder.com/

    Hope it helps!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭pgmcpq


    slingerz wrote: »
    My company recently offered me the opportunity to move to our new york office which ironically is in new jersey looking across at new york.i have a number of questions about moving which i hope boardsies can help me with here.Firstly, what is the best way to locate accommodation in new york? My partner would be going with me also and as a teacher we were wondering how she would look for work in new york?secondly, we'd rather use buses/trains rather than having a car so are we correct in assuming that the transport links would be very good in new york/new jersey.we'd also like to find out more about the emmigrant scene in new york id imagine there would be a number of similar irish people in new york between 20 and 40 to socialise with does anyone here know of any forum that would have details of this.also, practial item such as setting up utilites such as phone, internet, tv etc. is there anything to be aware of and to look out for? and also would i still pay irish tax rates or would it be US and new york taxes that would apply?thanks!! :)

    I'll hazzard a guess here that the office is around Exhange Place or Newport ? If so check out the PATH (Port Authority Trans Hudson) system. Not part of the subway system but links with it. There is also a light rail system (Hudson Bergen Light Rail) that runs around this areas connecting most of the commercial areas.

    I'd suggest looking at living in NJ - cheaper, shorter commute, but with easy access to Manhattan (15 mins PATH ride to midtown). Hoboken or parts of Jersey City. Cannot comment on the Irish scene anymore - it's definately not like Woodside in the 90s.

    Do check out your partners visa situation.

    Beware: Teachers are having a rough time here right now. Public schools are struggling to hire - there are private schools which tend not to required certification but pay well below the going rate.

    Btw, most apartment here are rented unfurnished - so if you plan on renting you need to be prepared for this.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭crapmanjoe


    slingerz wrote: »
    thanks for the replies folks! as regards the visa i think my employers are looking after that side of things for me, i assume my partner will need to look into that side of things.

    can you recommend a good site to look up apartment listings? im not sure of the address of our office but its been described as being across from new york city as in it would have views of the city.

    I was thinking that we would prefer to live in NYC however if the office is in New Jersey it might be handier to live near that and commute to NYC whenever we want to hang out there. however we would want to have some place that offers some social outlets so maybe living in NYC and commuting to NJ would be better?!

    Sadly Craigslist is still the best option for apartment all rentals over here and there is also not a whole lot you can do about securing one untill you actually arrive on the ground.

    Assume the job is going to be in jersey city or Hoboken - I would recommend living in either of those areas (thus avoiding the NYC tax and paying a lower state tax) - get an apartment close to the PATH and you are in Manhattan in 10 mins

    Best of luck with the move


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭lonestargirl


    slingerz wrote: »
    thanks for the replies folks! as regards the visa i think my employers are looking after that side of things for me, i assume my partner will need to look into that

    Lots of unemployed teachers it's highly unlikely she'll be a able to get a visa in her own right. Even if she did H1bs won't be issued again until October.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭slingerz


    Thanks for the advice I think Jersey City, if that's the place across the Hudson from NYC would be the location of the office. Good to know the transport links are good

    What is the expat social scene like there ideally we would like to share with other Irish over there but not sure how we would sort that out? I'd like to get playing GAA over there so hopefully that would help with the social aspect of things!

    It's exciting but scary at the same time!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    www.renthop.com

    www.streeteasy.com

    www.nakedapartments.com

    Are 3 of the largest sites for NYC. Using a brooker (an agency to help you find a place, will normally cost you approx. one months rent). You'll also probably find that once you're settled in NJ you won't actually be traveling into Manhattan all that often as Jersey is big enough to take years to explore all on its own.

    The chances of your partner also being able to go with you though is slim IMHO but that's really something you should speak to your employer about.

    Also depending on the size of the company they may be providing help for you to get settled in. Gas and power take minutes to set-up over here. They normally aren't switched off when someone leaves a place. Regarding the Internet, it depends on which company has cabled your building. You generally don't get to pick and choose.

    Finding an apartment is probably the hardest step. Make sure you bring over all the paperwork you'll need to help support your 'case' to justify why it should be you that the owner rents out to. Sharing an apartment though maybe an easier first step.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭slingerz


    Ponster wrote: »
    www.renthop.com

    www.streeteasy.com

    www.nakedapartments.com

    Are 3 of the largest sites for NYC. Using a brooker (an agency to help you find a place, will normally cost you approx. one months rent). You'll also probably find that once you're settled in NJ you won't actually be traveling into Manhattan all that often as Jersey is big enough to take years to explore all on its own.

    The chances of your partner also being able to go with you though is slim IMHO but that's really something you should speak to your employer about.

    Also depending on the size of the company they may be providing help for you to get settled in. Gas and power take minutes to set-up over here. They normally aren't switched off when someone leaves a place. Regarding the Internet, it depends on which company has cabled your building. You generally don't get to pick and choose.

    Finding an apartment is probably the hardest step. Make sure you bring over all the paperwork you'll need to help support your 'case' to justify why it should be you that the owner rents out to. Sharing an apartment though maybe an easier first step.

    Thanks for that.

    In relation only partner couldn't she get a temporary visa or herself of her own accord or would that be difficult to obtain?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    slingerz wrote: »
    Thanks for that.

    In relation only partner couldn't she get a temporary visa or herself of her own accord or would that be difficult to obtain?

    It's not impossible, just not as sure as getting an L2 visa would be in the case that you were married.

    You'll need a B2 cohabitant visa. It'll allow her to stay for up to 6 months at a time (it can be renewed). There'll be an interview stage where you'll be asked to prove that you are in a "solid" relationship. Joint bank accounts, utility bills with both your names on them are things that can help.

    The B2 is an extended stay visa but won't allow her to work I'm afraid (though she can always do volunteer work to stop herself from going crazy)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭slingerz


    Thanks for that the visa is proving troublesome at the moment but hopefully we'll get them over the line!

    Can anyone shed light on mobile networks in the US will I be able to use my iPhone there and will I need a completely new SIM card for it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    slingerz wrote: »
    Thanks for that the visa is proving troublesome at the moment but hopefully we'll get them over the line!

    Can anyone shed light on mobile networks in the US will I be able to use my iPhone there and will I need a completely new SIM card for it?

    You should be able to with AT&T but you'll need a new sim - unless you want enormous roaming charges :)

    We have a plan that covers 2 iPads and 2 iPhones for 130 a month with them, but tbh it is best to go into a store when you land and see what they can offer you


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    slingerz wrote: »
    Can anyone shed light on mobile networks in the US will I be able to use my iPhone there and will I need a completely new SIM card for it?

    Shouldn't be an issue. AT&T refused me a SIM though due to not having a credit record. I had to sign up to a pre-paid account.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭slingerz


    Thanks guys

    Back to a visa question if I get a visa through the company I work with for 6 or 12 months what happens if I leave in that time Iis it invalid or anythihg


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    We'd really have to know exactly what type of visa to answer fully but I don't think you'll have any issues leaving. I don't think there is such a thing as a work visa that isn't multiple entry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    slingerz wrote: »
    Thanks guys

    Back to a visa question if I get a visa through the company I work with for 6 or 12 months what happens if I leave in that time Iis it invalid or anythihg

    Do you mean go back to Ireland on holiday intending to return? That would be fine.

    Or if you wanted to quit the job and return home, the visa would presumably lapse.

    The visa is tied to the job so if you quit the job but want to stay you'd have to get another job with another VISA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭slingerz


    InTheTrees wrote: »

    Do you mean go back to Ireland on holiday intending to return? That would be fine.

    Or if you wanted to quit the job and return home, the visa would presumably lapse.

    The visa is tied to the job so if you quit the job but want to stay you'd have to get another job with another VISA.


    It is the second option really could I get a second job on the one visa?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    You really need to speak to your company about stuff like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭slingerz


    Ponster wrote: »
    You really need to speak to your company about stuff like that.

    it wouldnt be for me herself could get a visa sponsorship from a company as we've a contact but they wouldnt have work for her so she would need to find a differnet job then


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    slingerz wrote: »
    it wouldnt be for me herself could get a visa sponsorship from a company as we've a contact but they wouldnt have work for her so she would need to find a differnet job then

    I don't understand. Did you not ask if you could work 2 jobs with the same work permit/visa ?

    You'll have a visa and a work permit. She can most likely get a visa for 6 months but she can't work legally in the states if she travels on a B2 visa that's attached to yours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭lonestargirl


    slingerz wrote: »
    It is the second option really could I get a second job on the one visa?

    Any visa you or her get will be tied to a specific job with a specific company. No other work is allowed. The sponsoring company must bear all the costs of the visa.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    slingerz wrote: »
    .also, practial item such as setting up utilites such as phone, internet, tv etc. is there anything to be aware of and to look out for? and also would i still pay irish tax rates or would it be US and new york taxes that would apply?thanks!! :)

    Utilities - it is likely you will be asked for hefty deposits up front and possibly pay your first month of service up front, so do your research on each companies policies for new customers, so you won't be hit with nasty surprises when you call them to set up service. When you do call them, you'll be asked for your social security number. They will then use that to do a credit check on you. As a recently arrived immigrant from Ireland, with no credit history in the US, you will have a very low credit score. You'll go in to the same high risk pile of people who have bad credit scores because they don't pay their bills. Until you start to prove that you aren't high risk, you'll be treated as such. Your Irish financial and credit history is irrelevant, as the 3 American credit bureaus have no way track it. They only go by what you get up to in the US.

    Taxes - If you are living and working full time in the US, you will pay them there. The US tax year follows the calender year. Your employer will give you your W-2 form at the end of January. The W-2 states all monies earned and taxes paid in the previous year. You use the W-2 it to file your taxes. You have to file them by April 16th. You will pay both a federal tax and a NY state tax, but you'll file them both at the same time. Even though your employer deducts tax from your pay check and sends it off to the IRS, you still have to file an actual tax return yourself.

    Tax preparation offices start popping up on every street corner from the beginning of February onwards. There are nation wide chains, just like Dunnes are here, but they only open up their offices for the 2-3 months of the year that people are actually filing their taxes. H&R Block is probably the best known one. I'd suggest you go to one of them the first time you file your taxes. For a simple filing, with no undue complications, its not that expensive. If you'll be in the US for the long term, there are loads of tax preparation kits and software out there that you can use to file your taxes yourself, but for the first time filer, I'd go with a pro.

    Most people get a tax refund back from Uncle Sam after they have filed, which is majorly cool. If you claim zero exemptions, you probably will too. (Get the HR Dept in your new job to explain how that works when you first arrive, and are filling out your tax paperwork. They get paid to explain how that all works. I don't. :D )

    If you have a land line phone with UPC, consider adding on the US calling package while you are planning your move. For 7 euros a month, you can call land line numbers in the US for an unlimited amount of time. That could come in very handy if you are calling over there to check on accommodation, jobs for your partner, utility companies policies etc etc before you move.

    Best of luck to you. :)


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