Disaster Zone

Geomy

If there was a nation wide catastrophic disaster,would you accept help or charity from the church ?

Such as food & shelter etc

That's if they were you and your families only hope.

Or would your non beliefs and resentment get in the way...

TPD

If they weren't forcing me to accept their faith before giving me the help - sure. If they were only giving food to converts, I'd fake it.

im invisible

No, id rather me and my kids die...

Geomy

Would you ?

Geomy

That's the difference,some of us can detach from the power of the church,more people cant.

That's sad really, to let a family die due to a resentment.

I'd never take the soup.

Geomy

I wouldn't take the wine or bread....

Beruthiel

Geomy wrote: »

If there was a nation wide catastrophic disaster,would you accept help or charity from the church ?

Such as food & shelter etc

What difference does it make where or who the help comes from?
I'll happily take a hand out from muslims, jews, atheists, aztecs and pastafarians under circumstances like that.

I don't get the point of that question Geomy.

eviltwin

In a situation like that I would take help and support from anyone. To refuse and let you and your loved ones die is just stupid, why wouldn't you accept help from the church?

Geomy

Beruthiel wrote: »

What difference does it make where or who the help comes from?
I'll happily take a hand out from muslims, jews, atheists, aztecs and pastafarians under circumstances like that.

I don't get the point of that question Geomy.

Well I get the point of your answer,as you see some people have a different answer to you or I.

Beruthiel

Geomy wrote: »

as you see some people have a different answer to you or I.

Someone who lost all use of their mental faculties you mean?

krudler

Geomy wrote: »

If there was a nation wide catastrophic disaster,would you accept help or charity from the church ?

Such as food & shelter etc

That's if they were you and your families only hope.

Or would your non beliefs and resentment get in the way...

No, I'd also make sure to ask any survivors in the rubble if they were atheist, if not then just kick dirt in their face and say "well ask your god for help!" while eating their babies.

im invisible

Geomy wrote: »

That's the difference,some of us can detach from the power of the church,more people cant.

I also can't just walk away from the church, i need it in writing that they acknowledge that i am no longer a member...

Geomy

Like Kruders post

smokingman

Geomy wrote: »

your non beliefs and resentment...

I take it that you think these are somehow connected? Do we think we're secretly angry at not getting into your "heaven" or something?

Dades

Geomy wrote: »

Like Kruders post

I think you're missing an implied smiley in that post.

endacl

pg633 wrote: »

I'd never take the soup.

Soup yes. Kool-aid, no. Thanks all the same.

goose2005

Do the RCC have big stockpiles of emergency supplies hidden away or something? I'd rather loot Lidl.

lazygal

Shît, is the Rapture coming sooner than I planned? I should have listened to those pesky Mormons, they have to have a years supply of stuff stashed away just in case. To Salt Lake City!

Dades

goose2005 wrote: »

Do the RCC have big stockpiles of emergency supplies hidden away or something? I'd rather loot Lidl.

Galvasean

As long as I didn't have to sign up for obligatory mass attendance or hand my kids over for fiddlin' I'd be okay with it.
I'm sure most theists would be happy to accept help from an atheist in such a situation too, so long as there was no ulterior motive.

krudler

Galvasean wrote: »

As long as I didn't have to sign up for obligatory mass attendance or hand my kids over for fiddlin' I'd be okay with it.
I'm sure most theists would be happy to accept help from an atheist in such a situation too, so long as there was no ulterior motive.

"Im helping you but your god isn't, you sure about all this?" probably uncovert a few with that :pac:

MrPudding

Galvasean wrote: »

As long as I didn't have to sign up for obligatory mass attendance or hand my kids over for fiddlin' I'd be okay with it.

Learning a musical instrument is important, though admittedly, in the middle of a disaster may not be the right time...

MrP

endacl

MrPudding wrote: »

Learning a musical instrument is important, though admittedly, in the middle of a disaster may not be the right time...

MrP

It'd have to be a really long disaster. Fiddlin's harder than it looks. Could take a while.

Obliq

endacl wrote: »

It'd have to be a really long disaster. Fiddlin's harder than it looks. Could take a while.

Fiddlin's tricky alright. Leaves your fingers sore and your arms quite tired.

Bannasidhe

Obliq wrote: »

Fiddlin's tricky alright. Leaves your fingers sore and your arms quite tired.

Not to mention it takes ages to get beyond Twinkle Twinkle Little Star - although after a week of hearing myself squeeeeek through that again and I'd beat myself to death with a rock so the church could take their charity and shove it.

Lucy8080

Religious folks aren't stupid you know! In such a scenario ...you guys are gonna be force-fed. The idea that you have a choice smacks of self delusion.


Religious or otherwise...we've all heard the rumours and we aint taking chances..

Geomy

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Not to mention it takes ages to get beyond Twinkle Twinkle Little Star - although after a week of hearing myself squeeeeek through that again and I'd beat myself to death with a rock so the church could take their charity and shove it.

What has Twinkle Star got to do with all this ?

Bannasidhe

Geomy wrote: »

What has Twinkle Star got to do with all this ?

I take it you never tried to learn to play de fiddle. As has been mentioned Fiddlin' Ain't easy and as Twinkle Star is one of the first lessons it's also painful.

joseph brand

Geomy wrote: »

If there was a nation wide catastrophic disaster,would you accept help or charity from the church ?

Such as food & shelter etc

That's if they were you and your families only hope.

Or would your non beliefs and resentment get in the way...

The last time I accepted food off the church, while I was in desperate circumstances, I woke up with my underpants on back-to-front, and felt as if I'd been drugged.

So, to answer your question, of course I would wolf down any food they give me, but I would remove my underpants beforehand. 'Do unto others' and all that.

Hey Men.

joseph brand

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I take it you never tried to learn to play de fiddle. As has been mentioned Fiddlin' Ain't easy and as Twinkle Star is one of the first lessons it's also painful.

So, when the media mentions 'fiddlin' with children, they were actually giving them violin lessons?
I was thinking more along the lines of a tromBONE. Boy is my face red.

Geomy

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I take it you never tried to learn to play de fiddle. As has been mentioned Fiddlin' Ain't easy and as Twinkle Star is one of the first lessons it's also painful.

I get you now lol

Sorry for the misunderstanding :S

kylith

Geomy wrote: »

If there was a nation wide catastrophic disaster,would you accept help or charity from the church ?

Such as food & shelter etc

That's if they were you and your families only hope.

Or would your non beliefs and resentment get in the way...

If there was a nation wide catastrophic disaster,would you accept help from a bunch of atheists?

Such as food & shelter etc.

That's if they were you and your families only hope.

Or would your beliefs and resentment get in the way?

Bannasidhe

joseph brand wrote: »

So, when the media mentions 'fiddlin' with children, they were actually giving them violin lessons?
I was thinking more along the lines of a tromBONE. Boy is my face red.

Possibly in those fancy 10,000 a year schools - horns of any description are expensive, hard to play and require a lot of wind.

In my brief sojourn at a convent school the Nuns insisted I learn fiddlin - I wanted to learn the cello. :mad:

The Brothers made my brother learn the triangle - make of that what you will

wonderfulname

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Not to mention it takes ages to get beyond Twinkle Twinkle Little Star - although after a week of hearing myself squeeeeek through that again and I'd beat myself to death with a rock so the church could take their charity and shove it.

Thanks for that wonderful memory, I'm pretty sure it was heavily repressed until your post.

The noise won't leave my ears now, it's like a dying cat, a rusty dying cat.

Bannasidhe

wonderfulname wrote: »

Thanks for that wonderful memory, I'm pretty sure it was heavily repressed until your post.

The noise won't leave my ears now, it's like a dying cat, a rusty dying cat.

Hail, fellow veteran.

The flashbacks are indeed mighty cruel.

Dades

Bannasidhe wrote: »

In my brief sojourn at a convent school the Nuns insisted I learn fiddlin - I wanted to learn the cello. :mad:

The Brothers made my brother learn the triangle - make of that what you will

If you weren't a girl - you could have gotten to play that most magical of instrument.

Those magic bells the chosen altar boy rings to let us know transubstantiation has occurred... (unless you're an Irish catholic and think none of that's real).

Bannasidhe

Dades wrote: »

If you weren't a girl - you could have gotten to play that most magical of instrument.

Those magic bells the chosen altar boy rings to let us know transubstantiation has occurred... (unless you're an Irish catholic and think none of that's real).

Brother was an alter boy so he got the triangle and the magic bells. :mad:

I remember the day he got his regulation mini cassock and doily surcoat. He showed it to me proudly and told me he would be helping the priest. I announced that I wanted to do that too (cassock envy) only to be told ,with all the serious maturity of his 10 years, that I couldn't because I was a girl. So my 5 year old self went whirling dervish on his ass....

The echos of the he said/she hit me duet tantrum scored for outrage that followed still resound around my mother's house.

Happy days.

Turtwig

Anybody else disappointed this thread wasn't called "Danger Zone"?:o
I know it mightn't have conveyed the OPs query as much, but damn, opportunity missed in my opinion.

Geomy

That's ok Jernal,if you like ill come up with something again lol
You can have a right go at it

Bannasidhe

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Possibly in those fancy 10,000 a year schools - horns of any description are expensive, hard to play and require a lot of wind.

In my brief sojourn at a convent school the Nuns insisted I learn fiddlin - I wanted to learn the cello. :mad:

The Brothers made my brother learn the triangle - make of that what you will

I play the cello :cool:


I suppose the nuns had a lot more experience with fiddling than with spreading their legs

Bannasidhe

bluewolf wrote: »

I play the cello :cool:


I suppose the nuns had a lot more experience with fiddling than with spreading their legs

*eaten with jealousy*

Cello is sexy.

They had cello classes too but I was ordered to fiddle...apparently only the chosen few got the feel the vibrato between their legs.

Geomy

Last time I seen a cello was on a tube in London,the next thing it moved and turned into a woman

endacl

"Madam, you have between your legs an instrument capable of giving pleasure to thousands - and all you can do is scratch it"

-Sir Thomas Beecham speaking to female cellist.