Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

keane2097

I pretty much always cheer for Dublin when Kerry aren't involved, it that helps heal any wounds

DARK-KNIGHT

Anyone of ye see the two lily whites on the hill??

DoctaDee

keane2097 wrote: »

I pretty much always cheer for Dublin when Kerry aren't involved, it that helps heal any wounds

Da ya put yer money where yer heart is ? :rolleyes: .. (Dublin -1) 27/20 on 365 .. sure ya can't win them all ..

Moneymaker

Right i've had a few days to process the game, i've not read much about what others have said on here;

- Bad, bad game as finals tend to be. Dublin did engage in a LOT of cynical fouls but Mayo had no problem doing it last year so you reap what you sow.

- Some atmosphere on the hill, the Mayo fans added to it greatly. A split Hill is a better Hill imo.

- I was wrong about Ger Brennan. I was worried he was a liability all season long and when it mattered he came up trumps. Fair play.

- Cian O'Sullivan should get an All-Star.

- James McCarthy was our best player for much of the game.

- The young lads didn't perform but the experience will stand to them and they'll be better for it.

- Dublin went a long way to dispel the opinion they're not good at the back(people forget Kerry only scored 6 points in the second half also).

- Dennis Bastick is the unsung hero of the panel.

- Class is always permanent, good lad Bernard.

- Feel sorry for Mayo, as much as Mayo people hate hearing that, their support was tremendous and they were let down by their forwards today. Moving Higgins back was a blunder imo, he was causing all sorts of problems.

- Enda Kenny is a classless individual.

- WE ARE CHAMPIONS!

keane2097

DoctaDee wrote: »

Da ya put yer money where yer heart is ? :rolleyes: .. (Dublin -1) 27/20 on 365 .. sure ya can't win them all ..

Only every day of my life.

http://www.livegaelic.com/features/the-proper-punter/proper-punter-tangled-blue/

DoctaDee

keane2097 wrote: »

Only every day of my life.

http://www.livegaelic.com/features/the-proper-punter/proper-punter-tangled-blue/

Good article brother .. 2 outta 3 bets aint bad ... great value in the overs

keane2097

DoctaDee wrote: »

Good article brother .. 2 outta 3 bets aint bad ... great value in the overs

Think the third bet is money back as well, haven't checked my account tbh, either way 12/5 was an amazing price on it, would back it every day of the week.

DoctaDee

keane2097 wrote: »

Think the third bet is money back as well, haven't checked my account tbh, either way 12/5 was an amazing price on it, would back it every day of the week.

Yeah it was .. I think Flynner reverted to a more defensive role in the latter stages of championship ... I mistakenly took him FGS AGS and FGS for Dublin against the Kingdom - I don't think his shadow got inside the 45 that day

robbiezero

keane2097 wrote: »

Only every day of my life.

http://www.livegaelic.com/features/the-proper-punter/proper-punter-tangled-blue/

Good article. Very prescient.

DazMarz

I was only buzzing and slagging was all. Maybe I misused the term "trolling", bit strong use of the word. I was only meaning to be light-hearted. Just thought it was a bit funny how I was salivating over Dublin's league form back in March and felt it could lead to another Sam and how quickly I was shot down (in a nice way too!).

I just thought it was a little ironic and just wanted to have a bit of a laugh over it. I seriously meant nothing malicious by it AT ALL. It was only a bit of a laugh and trying to be funny or something. There was seriously zero malice intended. All I intended was to have a bit of fun and to try and have a bit of a laugh at how predictions made can come true at such an early stage. My misuse of the word "trolling" might have been stupid on my part. I do not, have not and will not engage in trolling, in any forum on boards.ie. Maybe I do stupid things and maybe I get a bit overly excited or something, but it is never deliberate trolling.

No hard feelings to anyone, I hope. Can't we all just get along?!

DARK-KNIGHT

DazMarz wrote: »

I was only buzzing and slagging was all. Maybe I misused the term "trolling", bit strong use of the word. I was only meaning to be light-hearted. Just thought it was a bit funny how I was salivating over Dublin's league form back in March and felt it could lead to another Sam and how quickly I was shot down (in a nice way too!).

I just thought it was a little ironic and just wanted to have a bit of a laugh over it. I seriously meant nothing malicious by it AT ALL. It was only a bit of a laugh and trying to be funny or something. There was seriously zero malice intended. All I intended was to have a bit of fun and to try and have a bit of a laugh at how predictions made can come true at such an early stage. My misuse of the word "trolling" might have been stupid on my part. I do not, have not and will not engage in trolling, in any forum on boards.ie. Maybe I do stupid things and maybe I get a bit overly excited or something, but it is never deliberate trolling.

No hard feelings to anyone, I hope. Can't we all just get along?!

we can mate maybe I read too much into it sorry..

Can we all be friends with Freddie k?

DARK-KNIGHT

Did any of you see me and bro on the hill?? Both in full Kildare attire..

I thought at least one person here would have spotted us we stick out like site thumbs

DazMarz

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

we can mate maybe I read too much into it sorry..

Can we all be friends with Freddie k?

Good man!

And I think that might just be a little bridge, just a little bit too far...

DazMarz

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Did any of you see me and bro on the hill?? Both in full Kildare attire..

I thought at least one person here would have spotted us we stick out like site thumbs

Coulda been mistaken for Tyrone fans, as there were a few of them on the Hill. White jerseys and all that.

DoctaDee

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Did any of you see me and bro on the hill?? Both in full Kildare attire..

I thought at least one person here would have spotted us we stick out like site thumbs

Save us the trouble and tag yerself !! http://fanpic.huggity.com/197-2013-eircom_gaa_final/app/index.php

DARK-KNIGHT

DazMarz wrote: »

Coulda been mistaken for Tyrone fans, as there were a few of them on the Hill. White jerseys and all that.

Nah we had a banner saying we are here for sam was about 6 foot by 6 foot

Some craic with few of the dubs on the hill they thought we were ****ing mad

DARK-KNIGHT

DoctaDee wrote: »

Save us the trouble and tag yerself !! http://fanpic.huggity.com/197-2013-eircom_gaa_final/app/index.php

Can't really look now ill have a goo later after work.. I didn't realise that the whole stadium was visible that's amazing

DazMarz

One thing I've noticed looking back over all the games of the season in the last while, Dublin's players (forwards moreso) need to take a leaf from Bastick's book and not go for glory themselves; pass it to the man in the better position and let him bury it. Less selfishness next year from the forwards, and Dublin will be even better. That is a huge thing that Gavin should work on now.

TouchingVirus

DoctaDee wrote: »

Save us the trouble and tag yerself !! http://fanpic.huggity.com/197-2013-eircom_gaa_final/app/index.php

I'd tag myself, but there's a barrier from the top of the perspex blocking my face. Horrible camera position for the Hill...

DazMarz

TouchingVirus wrote: »

I'd tag myself, but there's a barrier from the top of the perspex blocking my face. Horrible camera position for the Hill...

Yeah, fairly sure I was obscured by a rope or part of the barrier. sucks... was looking forward to tagging myself in it (yes, I am a child).

Drumpot

I was at the game and I think it was clear the best team won . . Hard luck to Mayo, I don't actually think either team brought their A game on the day . .

I would like to address some of the twits around who seem to be whining about a few things . .

Particularly the Dublin cynical tactics. . There seems to be little said of the fact that Dublin finished the game with 12 fit players. Most of their substitutes and O'Gara/O'Carroll/McAuley were injured. You don't get that many injuries in an average game . . Its either that Mayo are the most amazingly competent team at being physical within the rules of the game, or perhaps it was just complete and utter coincidence that Dublin needed to make as many changes down to injury.

Dublin won the game, so not many Dubs feel the need to rub it in, but Mayo were not exactly whiter then white in how they went about trying to win the game. Several times Mayo players with possession launched/charged themselves at Dublin players (and they subsequently won frees). I also find it interesting that the free count was nearly 3-1 , if we even look at the injury count (so we are to believe that Dublin players got injured committing fouls?!). There was nearly as many injuries to Dublin players as their was fouls supposedly committed against the Dubs. .

That aside, considering the way Dublin ended with 12 fit players, I think its understandable (not necessarily excusable) that they tried to slow the game down in the manner in which they did. It was nowhere near the same as a 15 man Tyrone team reverting to the same tactics.

I dont think anybody in the media or in Dublin wants to rub it in cause everybody feels for Mayo, but lets not allow anti Dublin twits get ahead of themselves and allow a one sided rant continue . .

DoctaDee

Fair points well made brother

Moneymaker

Top man.

ProudDUB

Absolute gent !

aveytare

Drumpot wrote: »

That aside, considering the way Dublin ended with 12 fit players, I think its understandable (not necessarily excusable) that they tried to slow the game down in the manner in which they did. It was nowhere near the same as a 15 man Tyrone team reverting to the same tactics..

Tyrone would've been crucified for doing the same even if the entire team was crocked (bear no ill-will towards Dublin, just some media perceptions). The finale to the game just seemed like a bit of a joke in the light of some of the sanctimonious nonsense coming out of the media this year about Tyrone and the sport at large (and I don't blame Dublin for closing the game out, all the top teams do it). Dublin slowed things down in the closing stages of the semi-final as well, stopping a free being taken and Paddy Andrews jumping on a Kerry player's back - and also fouled the Mayo backs a fair amount on Sunday. Don't like saying that but it's just the truth. I just fail to see how Tyrone are somehow about ten times more cynical than everyone else - Mayo did the same to you guys last year as well, everyone's at it. I think because Tyrone set up more defensively this year than usual and won a few matches in a row by 2 points (not saying we ever played off-the-cuff although no modern teams play truly traditionally anyway), that whenever we were cynical, it was exacerbated because the matches were already dogged affairs.

As I said, I honestly bear no ill-will towards Dublin, just a bit sick of rte etc this year. Was reading the papers on Sunday morning and the amount of veiled references to Tyrone and how the sport was being redeemed was a bit much. In fairness I bought into it a bit myself, thought it was gonna be a final for the ages but obviously most finals don't turn out to be classics.

Hope I don't come across as too negative - as a Tyrone fan I know it's irritating to be criticised for this kinda stuff

ThunbergsAreGo

Moneymaker wrote: »

Top man.

Any excuse to show off the guns

Stoner

aveytare wrote: »

Tyrone would've been crucified for doing the same even if the entire team was crocked (bear no ill-will towards Dublin, just some media perceptions). The finale to the game just seemed like a bit of a joke in the light of some of the sanctimonious nonsense coming out of the media this year about Tyrone and the sport at large (and I don't blame Dublin for closing the game out, all the top teams do it). Dublin slowed things down in the closing stages of the semi-final as well, stopping a free being taken and Paddy Andrews jumping on a Kerry player's back - and also fouled the Mayo backs a fair amount on Sunday. Don't like saying that but it's just the truth. I just fail to see how Tyrone are somehow about ten times more cynical than everyone else - Mayo did the same to you guys last year as well, everyone's at it. I think because Tyrone set up more defensively this year than usual and won a few matches in a row by 2 points (not saying we ever played off-the-cuff although no modern teams play truly traditionally anyway), that whenever we were cynical, it was exacerbated because the matches were already dogged affairs.

As I said, I honestly bear no ill-will towards Dublin, just a bit sick of rte etc this year. Was reading the papers on Sunday morning and the amount of veiled references to Tyrone and how the sport was being redeemed was a bit much. In fairness I bought into it a bit myself, thought it was gonna be a final for the ages but obviously most finals don't turn out to be classics.

Hope I don't come across as too negative - as a Tyrone fan I know it's irritating to be criticised for this kinda stuff

I think these are fair points, one or two interviews are played and played again, or written about. Tyrone had to wait until they were finished before the were correctly recognised as a great team, comments like puke football etc. The turn around from Brolly is remarkable, he also seems to get joy from teams trying and failing, like the pillar Dublin team, or kildare.

I really don't know how a guy who did nothing but push the positives of Ulster football for so long can turn on Tyrone like that.

In the second half of the game on Sunday Mayo were clearly tackling MDMA to stop him receiving the ball again after he laid it off, understandably he was running it into Brogan and Mayo needed to stop it, these things happen.
There has been too much BS about Mayo kerry and Dublin saving football IMHO, If it's that good it will beat negative football. The dubs pulled Mayo players down on Sunday to wrap up the game, it was not pretty, it was necessary.

ProudDUB

aveytare wrote: »

Tyrone would've been crucified for doing the same even if the entire team was crocked (bear no ill-will towards Dublin, just some media perceptions). The finale to the game just seemed like a bit of a joke in the light of some of the sanctimonious nonsense coming out of the media this year about Tyrone and the sport at large (and I don't blame Dublin for closing the game out, all the top teams do it). Dublin slowed things down in the closing stages of the semi-final as well, stopping a free being taken and Paddy Andrews jumping on a Kerry player's back - and also fouled the Mayo backs a fair amount on Sunday. Don't like saying that but it's just the truth. I just fail to see how Tyrone are somehow about ten times more cynical than everyone else - Mayo did the same to you guys last year as well, everyone's at it. I think because Tyrone set up more defensively this year than usual and won a few matches in a row by 2 points (not saying we ever played off-the-cuff although no modern teams play truly traditionally anyway), that whenever we were cynical, it was exacerbated because the matches were already dogged affairs.

The last 10 minutes of the AI final were not a true representation of how Dublin played all year. If a win at all costs mentality clicks in when a team feel Sam within their grasp, that's one thing. To adopt that approach in each and every game that you play, all year long, is something else entirely.

I saw things in Tyrones league games this year, that were just as bad as what we saw on Sunday & they were still doing it 6 months later. When Dublin did it, it was very much out of character. I am not saying that that automatically makes it right, but I don't think that you should judge the two the same way.

aveytare

ProudDUB wrote: »

The last 10 minutes of the AI final were not a true representation of how Dublin played all year. If a win at all costs mentality clicks in when a team feel Sam within their grasp, that's one thing. To adopt that approach in each and every game that you play, all year long, is something else entirely.

I saw things in Tyrones league games this year, that were just as bad as what we saw on Sunday & they were still doing it 6 months later. When Dublin did it, it was very much out of character. I am not saying that that automatically makes it right, but I don't think that you should judge the two the same way.

That's fair enough, I just think some of Tyrone's cynical play arose out of the fact that they were winning matches by a point or two - like in the first league match against yourselves for which we got a fair bit of criticism. I think before that match the black card wasn't even expected to pass so it might've swung things the other way. Tyrone were obviously very defensive this year, though we've been hammered by Dublin and Kerry the last few years and a defensive team won the all-ireland in 2012 so I can half-understand it. Maybe next year we'll be a bit more open, we've some good young forwards coming through, so who knows. Anyway this topic isn't about Tyrone, it's about Dublin and enjoy your success.

DazMarz

6,000 posts and not out... Dear me, I defo have no life!!!

Up the Dubs!

Gerry91

Hi guys, question here

Is paul griffin playing with crokes ATM
Do ye know or is he done? Cracking corner back I know injury cost him an AI (as captain possibly) and maybe even 2!

Is there even any chance we may see him in a dub shirt again? Have relations in stillorgan who say he's an absolute gent and lives dub football. Great see him with an involvement in 2011 team (stats)

Gerry91

Was at his u21 final as an under 12 in 02 I think v Galway and I picked him out then as a future star somehow haha

Just An Opinion

Gerry91 wrote: »

Hi guys, question here

Is paul griffin playing with crokes ATM
Do ye know or is he done? Cracking corner back I know injury cost him an AI (as captain possibly) and maybe even 2!

Is there even any chance we may see him in a dub shirt again? Have relations in stillorgan who say he's an absolute gent and lives dub football. Great see him with an involvement in 2011 team (stats)

Not sure this year Gerry but I didn't see him line out for Kilmacud in any of the championship games last year (that I seen). But like you said the injury has certainly cost him two AI's as well as captaining one. Awful shame as he is a fine corner back and leader. Really do hope he makes it back to the county scene as I'd have him in before Cooper all day if 100% fit.

I remember looking at him on the steps of the Hogan in 2011 when Cullen was giving his speech, and feeling a real level of sympathy for him.

Sunnyisland

Only got to watch the match this morning,(though I knew the result) great win for the Dubs, deserved to win it.

Eamo71

One week in. Anyone still celebrating? haven't' taken the bunting or flags off the house yet. COYBIB

DazMarz

Eamo71 wrote: »

One week in. Anyone still celebrating? haven't' taken the bunting or flags off the house yet. COYBIB

Still get that sudden urge to clench a fist and grin like mad thing at the most random moments.

Car flags still on the car, flag still flying proudly from the apartment window (irritating the fúck out of the neighbours from Kerry, no doubt).

My custom licence plates arrived: 132-D-SAM. One currently on the rear window of the car, the other on the bedroom wall, next to the 11-D-SAM one.

Still loving it. Still watching the recording of the game on my Sky Plus box on a daily basis. Still watching the recording of the Sunday Game from that night.

Was at the same lark 2 years ago. I still to this day will always watch that clip of McManamon's goal against Kerry. Such a heroic clip... "McManamon dodging... MCMANAMON SCORING!!!"

Speaking of which:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B8yqLAX7iE

Absolutely brilliant. Love that video so much.

Just An Opinion

DazMarz wrote: »

Still get that sudden urge to clench a fist and grin like mad thing at the most random moments.

Car flags still on the car, flag still flying proudly from the apartment window (irritating the fúck out of the neighbours from Kerry, no doubt).

My custom licence plates arrived: 132-D-SAM. One currently on the rear window of the car, the other on the bedroom wall, next to the 11-D-SAM one.

Still loving it. Still watching the recording of the game on my Sky Plus box on a daily basis. Still watching the recording of the Sunday Game from that night.

Was at the same lark 2 years ago. I still to this day will always watch that clip of McManamon's goal against Kerry. Such a heroic clip... "McManamon dodging... MCMANAMON SCORING!!!"

Speaking of which:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B8yqLAX7iE

Absolutely brilliant. Love that video so much.

Still gives me goosebumps, I still have that entire game recorded on the DVR aswell as the semi this year and of course last Sunday, the missus ain't too impressed with the lack of space left for 'Dont tell the Bride' and feckin 'One born every minute', I care none!

Dots1982

I see UCD are still in the Dublin championship. What players play for ucd? What are they edgible?

ProudDUB

Eamo71 wrote: »

One week in. Anyone still celebrating? haven't' taken the bunting or flags off the house yet. COYBIB

I vote you leave them up and only replace them when its time for the Christmas decorations to go up.

Dubliner28

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

Anyone of ye see the two lily whites on the hill??

Please tell me you have a pic ??

DoctaDee

Dots1982 wrote: »

I see UCD are still in the Dublin championship. What players play for ucd? What are they edgible?

UCD has been a source of rancor for some people in the Dublin SFC. The SFC panel allows players outside of Dublin to play their own county championship and also compete in Dublin SFC. Just reading today that John Heslin of Westmeath who helped St. Lomans to the championship final last weekend will line out for UCD against Judes tonight. The Sigerson panel which included the likes of Rory O'Carroll & Craig Dias will play for Kilmacud. Players such as Donie Kingston (Laois), Kevin McLoughlin (Mayo), Ciaran Lenehan (Meath), Josh Hayes (Cavan) & Niall Kilroy (Roscommon) will have the opportunity to compete in 2 county championships if they desire ..

keane2097

DoctaDee wrote: »

UCD has been a source of rancor for some people in the Dublin SFC. The SFC panel allows players outside of Dublin to play their own county championship and also compete in Dublin SFC. Just reading today that John Heslin of Westmeath who helped St. Lomans to the championship final last weekend will line out for UCD against Judes tonight. The Sigerson panel which included the likes of Rory O'Carroll & Craig Dias will play for Kilmacud. Players such as Donie Kingston (Laois), Kevin McLoughlin (Mayo), Ciaran Lenehan (Meath), Josh Hayes (Cavan) & Niall Kilroy (Roscommon) will have the opportunity to compete in 2 county championships if they desire ..

Several Dr. Crokes players actually won both Cork & Kerry Championships double-jobbing with UCC in 2011.

Not sure how I feel about it really...

WhatNowForUs?

Its not good as it undermines the local county championship if the college team wins it. The college team get progressively weaker if they win the Dublin Championship as the competition goes on.

Years ago UCD were allowed to enter a team in the Under 21 Championship. It was good fun, 15 Intercounty players, some of them Senior against average club teams and even in the final they would be coming up against teams with only about 5-7 Dublin U21 Panelists.

DoctaDee

keane2097 wrote: »

Several Dr. Crokes players actually won both Cork & Kerry Championships double-jobbing with UCC in 2011.

Not sure how I feel about it really...

Yeah much the same as myself .. their opponents will argue that the players offer little or nothing to the development (in our case) of Dublin football ... strangely enough the gates are well and truly shut when it comes to hurling for some reason

keane2097

I don't know, I tend to think anything that raises the standard of club football in a county is very likely to be beneficial overall...

Lohans sister in law

http://balls.ie/gaa/teammates-want-murder/

This is fairly brilliant. You have to read this. I see Eamon Fennell acknowledged he was no. 8

Gael85

Dots1982 wrote: »

I see UCD are still in the Dublin championship. What players play for ucd? What are they edgible?

UCD beaten tonight against St Judes,lost 3-12 to 1-5

Gael85

Gerry91 wrote: »

Hi guys, question here

Is paul griffin playing with crokes ATM
Do ye know or is he done? Cracking corner back I know injury cost him an AI (as captain possibly) and maybe even 2!

Is there even any chance we may see him in a dub shirt again? Have relations in stillorgan who say he's an absolute gent and lives dub football. Great see him with an involvement in 2011 team (stats)

don't think Paul Griffin playing club football anymore,never properly recovered when done his cruciate twice,his club and county team mate Mark Davoren had same injury and never played again

Oasis_Dublin

Gael85 wrote: »

UCD beaten tonight against St Judes,lost 3-12 to 1-5

That's a big one for Jude's. I mean they were favourites, but that is a big win. How much did Macker score?

Gael85

ST JUDE’S 3-12 UCD 1-5
A powerful opening half saw St Jude’s knockout UCD when winning by an impressive 13 points.
The Tymon North men did their real damage in a ten-minute spell midway through the opening half when Ronan Joye and Declan Donnelly (two, one penalty) grabbed goals to catapult their side to a 3-7 to 0-2 interval advantage.
SCORERS – St Jude’s: D Donnelly 2-1 (1-0pen), R Joyce 1-1, K McManamon (1f), J Donnelly (1f), M Sweeney 0-2, C Guckian, C Murphy, E Dalton, P Maguire 0-1 each. UCD: J Heslin 1-0, C Boyle, P Reilly (0-1 ’45′) 0-2, N Kilroy 0-1.
ST JUDE’S: JB Carthy; C McBride, G Roche, R Finnegan; N Cronan, C Guckian, T McKeon; C Murphy, P Cunningham; M Sweeney, R O’Brien, R Joyce; J Donnelly, D Donnelly, K McManamon. Subs: P Maguire for J Donnelly (47), E Dalton for McManamon (52), B McManamon for O’Brien and F O’Brien for Cronan (56), S Breheny for Roche (60).
UCD: E Kehoe; J Hayes, P Harnan, M Furlong; C Boyle, C Lenehan, S McEntee; C Sheridan, L Keaney; S Cadden, N Kelly, L Kelly; M Hughes, J Heslin, M O’Hanlon.Subs: N Kilroy for L Kelly (28), D Wood for McEntee and P Reilly for Cadden (half-time), S O’Sullivan for Sheridan (40), M Dinneen for Lenehan (43)..
REF: R Malone (St Mary’s Saggart).