England v Scotland, Sat 2 Feb 4pm; pre/during/post match thread; RTÉ/BBC

awec

liammur wrote: »

Agreed. I'm impressed with England, but this is not a test. Scots are awful.

England will be coming to the Aviva as fresh as could be.

This is my worry. We took a real battering today physically, England are subbing off some key players.

Swiwi

liammur wrote: »

Agreed. I'm impressed with England, but this is not a test. Scots are awful.

England will be coming to the Aviva as fresh as could be.

Already rolling out the subs...Eng will have to start favourites after this stroll in the park. I imagine the Irish lads will be pretty sore.

ongarite

liammur wrote: »

England will be coming to the Aviva as fresh as could be.

This is the key point. How can Ireland turn around the next week and potentially put in another defensive performance like that.

ScrubsfanChris

Twelvetrees is a selfish player when he has the ball, trying to do everything himself......

Irlandczyk

Swiwi wrote: »

Already rolling out the subs...Eng will have to start favourites after this stroll in the park. I imagine the Irish lads will be pretty sore.

+1, the Welsh gave us a right battering today, and Scotland doing us absolutely no favours for us, or for themselves. "Toothless" as Frankie describes it, and he's quite right. England will be fresh next week, but us? Not so sure. Could end up being a big factor next week.

Heroditas

We've 8 days to recover. That extra day will help a lot.
Also, it's England. The guys will be pumped up for it to avenge last year.

kmart6

Seems to be a lot of forward passes not being called in this game as well!

Fireball07

Hogg seems to be the only good Scottish player....I'd like him to go with the Lions.

liammur

Swiwi wrote: »

Already rolling out the subs...Eng will have to start favourites after this stroll in the park. I imagine the Irish lads will be pretty sore.

Spot on.

Ive Eng backed @ -15, subs are always a worry when there's a big handicap involved.

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Bad from Denton

Swiwi

When it comes to the Lions, maybe Hogg, maybe maybe Beattie & Gray, but it's desperate times for the Scots.

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Swiwi wrote: »

When it comes to the Lions, maybe Hogg, maybe maybe Beattie & Gray, but it's desperate times for the Scots.

Aye, England not having to do that much. Missing their best carrier as well.

Ben Youngs is really back in business though.

I am pie

Wooden spoon candidates.

shaungil

Thought 12 3's was good up till that last phase when he should have let it go. Runs nice angles throws a few skip passes. Might be a good foil to Tulagi as is not just bash merchant. Now put him again BOd he might be different. English back 5 very athletic and robshaw super at the simple things tackling contesting cleaning up poor ball. They all look good as not being tested youngs lose the rag regularly when things don't go his way.
so Lawes and Hartley on together there must be a yellow coming.

Fireball07

Swiwi wrote: »

When it comes to the Lions, maybe Hogg, maybe maybe Beattie & Gray, but it's desperate times for the Scots.

Maybe Laidlaw as a 9/10 cover?

But you're right.

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Thankfully for Scotland, they have Italy at home this year.

awec

Farrell off now too for a rest.

Swiwi

just quietly robshaw has been quite good...

Blackheath

Denton not making the same impact as he did last year

Fireball07

You'd imagine our defence is going to be a lot better than Scotland's. Scotland are winning a good few turnovers though. If we keep our discipline, England are very beatable. It will be tough though because Farrell is likely to kick all the penalties.

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Hogg, what a try!

awec

Hogg try, that was a great counter attack.

Fireball07

Excellent try from Hogg!

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Scotland's back three really is top class on their day, shame about their teammates.

Swiwi

C'mon Scotland - I picked Eng by 10.

liammur

:mad:

Fireball07

thomond2006 wrote: »

Scotland's back three really is top class on their day, shame about their teammates.

In attack....defensively, maybe not so much. I rate Hogg a lot though. Very versatile, good under a high ball, good boot and can break the line, nice all-round player.

awec

Come on Scotland!

Stheno

thomond2006 wrote: »

Thankfully for Scotland, they have Italy at home this year.

Remember the year Italy scored in Murrayfield after blocking a kick in the first few minutes? Did they win then or did Scotland beat them?

shaungil

Hogg bringing home the Bacon. Eng forward look dead on their feet. They need to put it up the jumper. Not as athletic as I thought perhaps.

rebel girl 15

7 mins to go, Scotland need two scores, 5m attacking lineout - fantastic two opening games to the 6N

awec

Denton has been useless.

rebel girl 15

Shouldn't have grubbered it there

Fireball07

Scotland maul been poor throughout.


(Or England's maul defence has been good)

19543261

Denton is a mess.

Swiwi

Denton has been absolutely dreadful, I'm racking my brains to think of a worse performance at 8. Dire.

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Denton has been poor alright, I think they are missing Strokosch too, who reminds of a Worsley type 'tree cutter' player.

awec

Scotland keep going down the side they have no players ffs. Running in to a dead end and losing the ball.

Nermal

LOL at Lawes 'diving on it like a panther'.

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Both Care and Youngs invite their teammates to run onto the ball with the timing and speed of pass.

Swiwi

thomond2006 wrote: »

Both Care and Youngs invite their teammates to run onto the ball with the timing and speed of pass.

Youngs might be my MOTM.

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Beattie could have held that, he had someone with him as well. Certain try blown.

awec

There we go. Should be a great game next weekend.

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Care finishes off with a try under the sticks. Like France, England have great depth at nine. Two players for the future too, Youngs is 23 and Care is 26.

Next Sunday should be fantastic!

Aside from a few individual performances, Scotland were dire. Then again, with their coach it's hardly a surprise.

Heroditas

Scotland look like a typical Scott Johnson side. A bit of flair and off the cuff stuff but none of the basics and a bit of a shambles the rest of the time.
It could be a very long 6N for them.


Edit: Thomond - SNAP!

thomond2006

England by 1-10

Lancaster is such a likeable guy. He is actually engaging in an interview.

tolosenc

Had Scotland +15. Screw you, Danny Care!

.ak

Denton was the villain of the match. Terrible stuff. Butchered and conceded all day long.

.ak

Who got MoTM?

Fishooks13

Scotland by 1-10

.ak wrote: »

Denton was the villain of the match. Terrible stuff. Butchered and conceded all day long.

Andy Powell take 2