New Blackbeery. Does any one care?

godtabh · 31-01-2013 12:59pm #1

Saw the new BB 10 devices will be released today.

The Z10 looks impressive.

No thread here so does any one care about BB these days?

Lardy · 31-01-2013 1:14pm

I watched the webcast of the launch yesterday. While the launch was underwhelming, both the Z10 and Q10 look awesome! I will be getting the Q10 when its released in a few months.

HTML5! · 31-01-2013 1:18pm

I've cared for quite a while.

I love Blackberry.

Count me as another one for the Q10.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/30/blackberry-q10-hands-on/

Lardy · 31-01-2013 1:25pm

HTML5! wrote: »

I've cared for quite a while.

I love Blackberry.

Count me as another one for the Q10.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/30/blackberry-q10-hands-on/

We have a Blackberry Ireland BBM group if you're interested in joining.
Send me a message to 297B9094 and put "Group" in the message.

HTML5! · 31-01-2013 1:29pm

Lardy wrote: »

We have a Blackberry Ireland BBM group if you're interested in joining.
Send me a message to 297B9094 and put "Group" in the message.

I'm using an iPhone at the moment and can't afford to change it just now - it's a loaner.

Crocked · 31-01-2013 5:38pm

I'll be picking up a Z10 once they go on sale here.

godtabh · 31-01-2013 5:40pm

what do you reckon the price will be?

justsomebloke · 31-01-2013 5:41pm

Does anyone know if BB10 supports exchange active sync without the need for a BES as the Q10 does look quite decent

sandleman1979 · 31-01-2013 5:56pm

justsomebloke wrote: »

Does anyone know if BB10 supports exchange active sync without the need for a BES as the Q10 does look quite decent

Yes full activesync will work without a BES server. The bis requirement has also been removed compared to old devices. Just needs a standard internet account as per other smartphones by all accounts.

HTML5! · 31-01-2013 6:00pm

godtabh wrote: »

what do you reckon the price will be?

I think they're 500 or 600 SIM free, so I reckon similarly priced to the iPhone 5, to give you a marker.

DonFred · 31-01-2013 8:18pm

Hmmm I have the Bold 9900 and was thinking of upgrading to Nokia Lumia - dont know what to do now.........................

HTML5! · 31-01-2013 8:49pm

I want the white one!

Dan_Solo · 01-02-2013 12:16am

Care? I look at the specs and the price and decide it's a ridiculously expensive for what it is and that's me done caring.
Not bothered that it's not iOS or Android though. Every platform has enough apps as far as I can see.

HTML5! · 01-02-2013 12:17am

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Care? I look at the specs and the price and decide it's a ridiculously expensive for what it is and that's me done caring.
Not bothered that it's not iOS or Android though. Every platform has enough apps as far as I can see.

Yeah just like all high end smartphones.

godtabh · 01-02-2013 8:42pm

sandleman1979 wrote: »

Yes full activesync will work without a BES server. The bis requirement has also been removed compared to old devices. Just needs a standard internet account as per other smartphones by all accounts.

This could be a big deal breaker for a lot of people

cookie1977 · 01-02-2013 9:50pm

godtabh wrote: »

This could be a big deal breaker for a lot of people

What part? All that's gone from BIS is the charge the networks charge customers and the fee blackberry collects. The same system is till their for push emaill most networks in ireland offering bill pay BIS don't charge extra for BIS for the past while (O2, Vodafone, Three)

I'm looking forward to the new devices. Just still torn about what one to get.

HTML5! · 02-02-2013 12:59am

cookie1977 wrote: »

I'm looking forward to the new devices. Just still torn about what one to get.

Definitely the QWERTY for me.

Am I the only one that will miss actual call buttons and the trackpad?!

Tomk1 · 02-02-2013 6:36pm

The Q looks like the only new phone that interests me, like the look of the Lumia with win8 but really dislike touchscreen-keypads. Seen on silicon republic that O2 Ireland will have the Z10 1st March & Q in April.

Outkast_IRE · 02-02-2013 6:40pm

Loved blackberry for years, but they lost me when they wouldnt allow you to data access without paying the BIS charge or whatever they wanted to call it, talk about shooting themselves in the foot.

cookie1977 · 02-02-2013 6:56pm

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

Loved blackberry for years, but they lost me when they wouldnt allow you to data access without paying the BIS charge or whatever they wanted to call it, talk about shooting themselves in the foot.

That has always been the case until now. BIS servers allow for compression and security. This results in BlackBerry devices being very data efficient. It was in my mind a fair price to pay and now we will no longer be charged for it. I think the main thing people moved from BlackBerry was because they weren't as media (gaming, apps and videos) friendly as other devices/OS's.

Francie Barrett · 02-02-2013 7:15pm

Reading the reviews, it sounds like BB10 OS itself is ahead of iOS, Android and WP in delivering a fuller OS that delivers true multi-tasking. The device itself also looks decent, but not spectacular, giving very good all-round performance. The browser seems very impressive, and the keyboard is supposed to be the best of any platform, so if apps aren't your thing, this phone could be right up your alley.

I would never have even considered Blackberry before now, but this phone offers the closest OS to replacing Maemo/Meego. I still look back at my Nokia N900 with a lot of fondness (when it broke under warranty, it was replaced by the inferior E7 that I have now).

HTML5! · 02-02-2013 8:18pm

Apps are seriously overrated in my opinion. There's few that most people will use regularly (and that I want on BB10 such as whatsapp and instagram), but I've seen iPhones with tons of apps and they've never ever been used, nor will they.

Outkast_IRE · 02-02-2013 8:38pm

cookie1977 wrote: »

That has always been the case until now. BIS servers allow for compression and security. This results in BlackBerry devices being very data efficient. It was in my mind a fair price to pay and now we will no longer be charged for it. I think the main thing people moved from BlackBerry was because they weren't as media (gaming, apps and videos) friendly as other devices/OS's.

That security and data efficiency is all well and good when your aiming at business clients, but the need to connect to the BIS servers was on the phones they were selling cheap on PAYG, which resulted in lots of people buying it and only finding out this problem afterwards, the poeple on this "low" end of the market did not want to be paying BIS charges every day.

But as you said, this is now changed and i will consider blackberry for my next phone, currently on a nokia lumia and couldnt be happier.

cookie1977 · 02-02-2013 8:52pm

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

That security and data efficiency is all well and good when your aiming at business clients, but the need to connect to the BIS servers was on the phones they were selling cheap on PAYG, which resulted in lots of people buying it and only finding out this problem afterwards, the poeple on this "low" end of the market did not want to be paying BIS charges every day.

But as you said, this is now changed and i will consider blackberry for my next phone, currently on a nokia lumia and couldnt be happier.

It wasn't a problem it was by design. Some networks gouged their PAYG customers (vodafone charge 99cent per day for 50mbs) and other's not so much (O2 and Meteor 9.99 for 700mbs or 1GB data per month). It might have been that that was not explained properly to PAYG customers which is unfortunate.

PAYG BB services only really came in to being in the last few years as prior to this BlackBerry never considered them a revenue source but BBM messenger became very popular with the youth segment.

At least it'll go now.

GobBass · 09-02-2013 3:33am

The Q10 is so,so pretty but alas, the price of the Z10 is not giving me any hope of getting it.

http://www.expansys.ie/blackberry-z10-black-242143/

gunnerfitzy · 09-02-2013 8:42am

O2 UK are selling the Z10 on PAYG for £479. Very tempted!!

Of course I also very drawn to the Q10. I love my QWERTY 9900... but think most apps especially sideloaded Android apps would work far better on the fullscreen Z10..... Ahhhhh!!

cookie1977 · 09-02-2013 8:44am

expansys pricing is always very high. They still sell the playbook for over 340euro when every one else was selling them for 150-200 I usually buy the phones PAYG and get them unlocked.

http://www.expansys.ie/s.aspx?search=playbook

Gillo · 09-02-2013 9:00am

I've played on the Z10 for about twenty minutes, it's seriously nice to use; very responsive / quick, multi tasking is brilliant and display quality amazing. There's a lot of small features built in too which made it very impressive.
I've my upgrade in April so seriously thinking of the Q10, I'm a heavy texter & mailer so the physical keyboard appeals to me.

Depending on price the Z10 could and hopefully will be a massive game changer for RIM.

12gauge dave · 09-02-2013 9:11am

reliabilty will be interesting! myself and friends all had blackberrys but there was always something going wrong or them just completly not working altogether? they need to up the stakes big time if you ask me

strecker · 11-02-2013 5:35pm

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Care? I look at the specs and the price and decide it's a ridiculously expensive for what it is and that's me done caring.
Not bothered that it's not iOS or Android though. Every platform has enough apps as far as I can see.

What's wrong with the specs?

paulheu · 11-02-2013 6:25pm

There's really not much that has not been done yet. BB10 basically copies from all other systems and brings nothing new to the table from what I see. Combine that with the announced intention to only license the OS in the future and not do their own hardware and you know where you're going.

Not saying they are bad phones, but nothing ground breaking. That said, if it suits you no doubt it'll be a good choice..

New Blackbeery. Does any one care?

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