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vectra

Supergurrier wrote: »

How will you know unless you try it ?

Ever hear the saying
" If it aint broken, don't fix it"

Supergurrier

vectra wrote: »

Ever hear the saying
" If it aint broken, don't fix it"

Most Irish people use that saying to drive their cars into the ground and then spend 30k on a new low tax model with which they continue the trend

Esel

vectra wrote: »

Ever hear the saying
" If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

FYP :pac:

Supergurrier wrote: »

Most Irish people use that saying to drive their cars into the ground and then spend 30k on a new low tax model with which they continue the trend

Now you're sucking diesel! Oil is oil, and the blacker the better. They all make that noise.... :eek:

Supergurrier

Supergurrier wrote: »

Most Irish people use that saying to drive their cars into the ground and then spend 30k on a new low tax model with which they continue the trend

I tiny minority might, most don't, let's not get carried away.

Esel

^ OK, maybe the yokels that run their car into the ground on sludge don't buy a brand-new one when the time comes, but these yokels are out there.

They may be a tiny minority, but they definitely are a tiny-brained minority.

vectra

Supergurrier wrote: »

Most Irish people use that saying to drive their cars into the ground and then spend 30k on a new low tax model with which they continue the trend

I can only assume you are including me in this, But to be fair you could not be further from the truth,
Hard to beat regular maintenance. Not one to run my car's into the ground nor am I one to sucked in to a dream either as others do.

Esel wrote: »

^ OK, maybe the yokels that run their car into the ground on sludge don't buy a brand-new one when the time comes, but these yokels are out there.

They may be a tiny minority, but they definitely are a tiny-brained minority.

Same could be said about the tiny minority of tiny brained yokels that honestly believe that running glorified fuel additive through their engine has suddenly revived it to it's former glory just because the exhaust sounds better and they "think" it feels better, :rolleyes:

coolisin

Cheers for coming on and calling us all small brained appreciate that.

dar83

Love how divisive this topic has ended up, haha.

As I've said previously in the topic, it's the price of two refills of fuel, not exactly a major outlay. Getting so uptight about trying something that in the grand scheme of things costs so little is strange, not to mention it's somehow now getting slightly personal.

The skeptics have made their point in this topic I think, is there really a point in continuing to state your disapproval repeatedly?

dahamsta

Two refills? What are you driving, a Zippo?

dar83

You're right actually, €135 is actually less than two refills, but I was averaging it out for the regular motorist, averaging a 45-50L fuel tank.

In fact considering your point, it makes my one even stronger, it's not even two refills so even less of an outlay...

vectra

dar83 wrote: »

You're right actually, €135 is actually less than two refills, but I was averaging it out for the regular motorist, averaging a 45-50L fuel tank.

In fact considering your point, it makes my one even stronger, it's not even two refills so even less of an outlay...

Even if it is only 1 tank of fuel.
Show us the rewards of it.

dar83

Well my NCT emissions results were reward enough for me. Not a massive drop, as they were low on its only previous one test, but getting two readings of 0.00 made me happy enough.

Cash is king

vectra wrote: »

Even if it is only 1 tank of fuel.
Show us the rewards of it.

A guy I know had it done on his Skoda and he said it eliminated cold lumpy starts plus the car is smoother to drive. I would try it if my car was old but I drive a new car.

Ded_Zebra

Ok well it's time to the day for my two week review of having my car Terracleaned (I was too lazy last week to do a one week review last week:o).

The things that I have noticed different since I had this done are

• The cars cold idle speed is a bit lower than before (about 1600RPM compared to 1800-1900)
• When the car changes from cold to hot idle speed (the final drop from about 1100 to 850-900ish) it no longer labours or sounds like it is close to stalling)
• The engine note is quieter at low RPM under load
• Throtle responce is now instant (was very fast before but I think even better now)
• It's more lively and energetic and even more willing to rev
• There is less vibration through the car at idle

Things that other people aka passengers have noticed.
Both one of my friends who I live with and my sister, who are both in the car a lot and are familiar with it both commented (without being prompted or asked by me) that the car felt faster and my sister also commented that it was quieter under load at low RPM.

So overall I think that it has had a positive effect on my car. Happy out:D

Bobo78

In all fairness lads you can achieve the same effect on your car by just servicing the throttle body, idle air control valve and air flow meter, MAF sensor or whichever you have by giving it a full proper clean up every 2 years.

Or spend that money on petrol and go for the full blast on the motorway at night and have some fun at the same time:)
My engine always feels more responsive and smoother after an hour spent on the motorway. :P

Ded_Zebra

Bobo78 wrote: »

In all fairness lads you can achieve the same effect on your car by just servicing the throttle body, idle air control valve and air flow meter, MAF sensor or whichever you have by giving it a full proper clean up every 2 years.

Or spend that money on petrol and go for the full blast on the motorway at night and have some fun at the same time:)
My engine always feels more responsive and smoother after an hour spent on the motorway. :P

I could still do those things and it would be better again

JJJJNR

100% worth it, got rid of the lumpy idle, car does not smoke at all under hard acceleration, MPG improvement, really there's no science as I didn't do an exhaustive investigation before I got it done, and I won't be doing one now, but I'm more than happy, I can understand some people reservations, a friend of mine wont get his 320D done as he's afraid it might dislodge something inside the engine..

JJJJNR

JJJJNR wrote: »

............ car does not smoke at all under hard acceleration..............

Ah stop.

JJJJNR

Oh no it doesn't!

Voodoomelon

A passenger feels the car is faster? That's a fine skill to have!

Ded_Zebra

Voodoomelon wrote: »

A passenger feels the car is faster? That's a fine skill to have!

Well they both said it without me talking about it first.

homer simpson

Voodoomelon wrote: »

A passenger feels the car is faster? That's a fine skill to have!

His sister must be a mechanic too as she said this :pac: ...

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

O... and my sister also commented that it was quieter under load at low RPM...

Ah I'm going to pass on this, sounds like I'll just keep my money.

jprboy

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

.... and my sister also commented that it was quieter under load at low RPM....

Please tell me that she used these exact words and that you're not "translating" what she said. I'll be seriously impressed if she did

One other thing: have you noticed any difference in fuel consumption?

Ded_Zebra

jprboy wrote: »

Please tell me that she used these exact words and that you're not "translating" what she said. I'll be seriously impressed if she did

One other thing: have you noticed any difference in fuel consumption?

Well I was accelerating at full throttle from 60 to 100 in 6th and see said "that's much quieter than before" and I said "what do ya mean?" and she said "It was much quieter when you accelerated there than I was expecting it to be"

So translate that what ever way you want

jprboy

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Well I was accelerating at full throttle from 60 to 100 in 6th and see said "that's much quieter than before" and I said "what do ya mean?" and she said "It was much quieter when you accelerated there than I was expecting it to be"

So translate that what ever way you want

Ah, am disappointed

Notice any difference in fuel consumption?

166man

jprboy wrote: »

Please tell me that she used these exact words and that you're not "translating" what she said. I'll be seriously impressed if she did

One other thing: have you noticed any difference in fuel consumption?

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Well I was accelerating at full throttle from 60 to 100 in 6th and see said "that's much quieter than before" and I said "what do ya mean?" and she said "It was much quieter when you accelerated there than I was expecting it to be"

So translate that what ever way you want

Give us an answer on the above question whenever you can bud, I'd imagine people are quite interested to hear that.

Ded_Zebra

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

............

The things that I have noticed different since I had this done are

............
• When the car changes from cold to hot idle speed (the final drop from about 1100 to 850-900ish) it no longer labours or sounds like it is close to stalling)....................

Just wondering before the Terraclean thing came along were you ever tempted to go about sorting that? The only time I've experienced remotely similar on one of my own cars was after changing spark plugs and one of the new ones was fecked.

Ded_Zebra

jprboy wrote: »

Ah, am disappointed

Notice any difference in fuel consumption?

Haven't checked since I got it done, Filled it up the night before and have only driven 400km since. Almost all short runs so it won't be fantastic I'm doing feck all driving atm. But when I do i'll post it here:)

Ded_Zebra

RoverJames wrote: »

Just wondering before the Terraclean thing came along were you ever tempted to go about sorting that? The only time I've experienced remotely similar on one of my own cars was after changing spark plugs and one of the new ones was fecked.

I had been trying a few things. I did change the plugs to try to improve it and that helped a bit. I was going to clean the throttle bodies next but since I got this done I didn't notice it struggling once. It wasn't very bad really (not that close to stalling) but laboring a bit.

TestTransmission

I'd like to see a before/after dyno run done on the day of the Terraclean.Think they'd be open to it?

Ded_Zebra

TestTransmission wrote: »

I'd like to see a before/after dyno run done on the day of the Terraclean.Think they'd be open to it?

They will let you do an emissions test before and after so I can't see why not (being your car and all). They won't guarantee an improvement though.

vectra

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Well I was accelerating at full throttle from 60 to 100 in 6th and see said "that's much quieter than before" and I said "what do ya mean?" and she said "It was much quieter when you accelerated there than I was expecting it to be"

So translate that what ever way you want

The only translation I can do is.
"I wish I had a sister like that" :P

Seweryn

Matt Simis wrote: »

I would however (and will) buy BG-44k.

Where would you get that stuff Matt?

Ded_Zebra

Well I finally got around to driving enough to empty the tank and the fuel consumption figures are in. Over 1 tank and 3 weeks I averaged 33mpg. Not fantastic by any measure but that driving was all either in traffic around town or driving hard. So no improvement but that driving wasn't representative of my normal use so I'll have to wait and see.

Big Nasty

So a month down what's peoples impression of this - those who have gotten it done I mean?

dahamsta

MCMLXXV wrote: »

So a month down what's peoples impression of this - those who have gotten it done I mean?

No difference that I can discern. Never again.

Voodoomelon

I did a consumption test after, from a full tank to empty, with my completely regular driving routine and saw no difference at all over what I previously averaged.

Several months on, the exhaust definitely sounds better; a nice low burble at anything under 1500rpm.

Overall, no difference in economy, performance, smoothness or idle.

Hal1

It restores your engine and exhaust system to it's full health by removing carbon deposits. I certainly noticed this when I got my nct report, 0.03% vol emmisions. It won't tune your car, no magic beans involved in terracleaning.

Ded_Zebra

Idle a bit smoother, a bit more responsive and smoother under load at low rpm. Don't really notice the difference anymore so maybe it's still better than it was and I got used to it or it's gone back to what it was (probably the first). NCT is on next Friday so I'll see what the emissions are like but I have no before to compare it to. If I have fuel system problems again I'll try some cheaper product from the motor factors.

Supergurrier

Putting mine off until after car is serviced tbh

Hal1

Hal1 wrote: »

It restores your engine and exhaust system to it's full health by removing carbon deposits. I certainly noticed this when I got my nct report, 0.03% vol emmisions. It won't tune your car, no magic beans involved in terracleaning.

What was it before do you know?

My ZT read 0.02% at last NCT time in July, 103K miles and never Terracleaned.

eringobragh

RoverJames wrote: »

What was it before do you know?

My ZT read 0.02% at last NCT time in July, 103K miles and never Terracleaned.

Considered doing this but got the NCT 2 weeks ago:

0.03% 2000 MR2 112,000 mls

Think I'll pass on this :cool:

Quazzie

Drive it like your late for mass and you won't have any carbon deposits

eringobragh

Quazzie wrote: »

Drive it like your late for mass and you won't have any carbon deposits

I did, she was roasted.... in 3rd gear all the way to the NCT centre.

eringobragh

eringobragh wrote: »

..........
Think I'll pass on this :cool:

IMO it's a waste of time and money for most petrol engines.

Can see the use for diesels as diesels have huge potential to gum up, I can see how folks wouldn't quite like the idea of oodles of crud heading the way of the injectors on a diesel too though so I'd pass on Terraclean no matter what I was driving unless the manufacturer receommended it.

Hal1

RoverJames wrote: »

What was it before do you know?

My ZT read 0.02% at last NCT time in July, 103K miles and never Terracleaned.

It was 0.29% vol. So fairly high but still passable as it was in the pass range.

ba_barabus

So has everyone just put snake oil through the engine?

ba_barabus

ba_barabus wrote: »

So has everyone just put snake oil through the engine?

Well it will get deposits off.

So too will other methods

ba_barabus

RoverJames wrote: »

Well it will get deposits off.

So too will other methods

I don't disagree that it will but there doesn't seem to be many benefits to it.

Nothing a good drive and bottle of cleaning fluid wouldn't achieve at a fraction of the cost

dahamsta

eringobragh wrote: »

I did, she was roasted.... in 3rd gear all the way to the NCT centre.

Did the same with the wifes e39 the other day, failed. On bushes. Was genuinely shocked it went through on emissions, it's not well!