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First shotgun purchase

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  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭susign


    maxusman wrote: »
    I like the old saying " Pumps dont spit,they swallow" .A pump will fire whatever you put thru it within reason ie,if you put a 3 1/2 inch shell in a gun built for 3 inch or less you could be in trouble.

    Are pumps less likely to Jam thab the semi autos?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    susign wrote: »

    Are pumps less likely to Jam thab the semi autos?

    Your choice of ammo could cause a semi not to cycle properly. A pump does not have that problem. Regardless though, don't put a super magnum sized cartridge into a gun designed for magnum cartridges. Remember good idea/ bad idea from animaniacs? :)

    Re: remington/mossberg
    The main difference are in weight due to receiver construction. The mossberg has a thumb operated safety whereas your trigger finger will operate the safety on a 870. It's all down to preference really. They are both solid guns and have a huge following.

    If I were you I would look for a second hand one in the for sale section. These guns are built to last so you needn't be worried. They normally go for around the 300 mark second hand. My 870 was very well used when I got it, plus the abuse I have given it and it still functions flawlessly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭MrScootch


    Could you rock up to a club and go target shooting with a shotgun?
    I don't mean clays, I mean paper targets down the range, maybe with slugs or something?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    Not unless you have a restricted shotgun licence. And the range must have authorization for them to be shot.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    MrScootch wrote: »
    Could you rock up to a club and go target shooting with a shotgun?
    I don't mean clays, I mean paper targets down the range, maybe with slugs or something?

    No.

    No range, that i know, accomodates any type of target shooting outside of clays with a shotgun, and not with slugs.

    I don't believe it's even a sport or more to the point none that i would be aware of. Plus when you get into shotguns with a slug you are better of with a rifle.

    Then there is the issue of the guns as restricted as described above.


    So No.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    There are several different competitions for slug shooting just not here.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Exactly my point.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭MrScootch


    Shame. I figured 'target shooting' was a more plausible excuse than "Really big game Garda :D:D:D

    Relax, just kidding!!!

    Seriously just thought a shotgun sounded like a great low-budget all-rounder to start off on, with target shooting just for kicks, not for serious competition.
    So would a range have to have specific authorisation for individual types of ammunition, or just 'anything restricted'? Just curious.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Two uses for shotguns;
    1. Clays
    2. Game

    Anything else would need a rifle.

    As for serious comp. you can dictate how serious it gets. just because there are comps does not mean you have to enter, and more to the point you would not start of against national champions. There are classes that you have to achieve a level of skill in before progressing onto the next.

    As for ranges. Clay pigeon shooting is not classed as target shooting, but they do montior, and police the types of shooting on their ranges. They will not allow slugs or any targets other than clay pigeons. Rifles ranges have a list of what is and is not permissible to be shot. Also each range is certified for different calibers, and its this certification that determines the caliber/bullet size that can be used on it.

    lastly it all depends on the type of shooting. Some ranges can shoot up to 50 caliber rifles. However as there are no competitions in Ireland for such calibers no one (or at least few people) has one. So no point buying a gun in a caliber that you do not get to use. So there is a strong link between what is legal, and what is practical to use/own.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    Yes they need authorization for different calibres and then also the shooting positions people are aloud to shoot from. Most ranges only cater for .22 etc.. because of cost and also noise levels.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭MrScootch


    Thanks, I think I'll go check out Courtlough, which I found a link for on here, and see how I get on. Might find a small target rifle more my thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭susign


    bravestar wrote: »
    Your choice of ammo could cause a semi not to cycle properly. A pump does not have that problem. Regardless though, don't put a super magnum sized cartridge into a gun designed for magnum cartridges. Remember good idea/ bad idea from animaniacs? :)

    Re: remington/mossberg
    The main difference are in weight due to receiver construction. The mossberg has a thumb operated safety whereas your trigger finger will operate the safety on a 870. It's all down to preference really. They are both solid guns and have a huge following.

    If I were you I would look for a second hand one in the for sale section. These guns are built to last so you needn't be worried. They normally go for around the 300 mark second hand. My 870 was very well used when I got it, plus the abuse I have given it and it still functions flawlessly.

    Yes, watched a very good youtube clip where a guy explains the difference between the mossberg and the 870. All of his points matched yours exactly. I still have the soft spot for the 870 though, now that I have researched so much into them. It's hard to imagine that the 870 was introduced in 1949! that says somethin


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