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C0N0R

trixi2011 wrote: »

back home already:( tomorrow is a school day

That never stopped us before!! You didn't stay in the stadium for the England game then?

Greengrass1

trixi2011 wrote: »

just home from the match sickened that I've to milk in the morning was mental up there when I left at 6

Was a super match.
they worked hard today

mf240

whelan2 wrote: »

I think alot depends on the lorry driver

Lorry driver that come here is sound out never a word and hes been collecting milk here for 30 + years.

He tells me some farmers can be a right pain.

C0N0R

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Was a super match.
they worked hard today

Was great rugby today in general, was a great way to finish it with France turning the ball over, was not impressed when they decided to run the penalty from their own line instead of kick it out though!!

trixi2011

frazzledhome wrote: »

Is it a coop?

its not come to think of it French plc . Rules are a lot stricter over here on milk storage its illegal to store milk over 2 days almost all farms I know of are on every day pickup. Milk has to be below 7 degrees immediately after milking

mf240

frazzledhome wrote: »

I'd tell him to phuck off and I'd deal with coop myself

In fairness glanbia will work with you if you have a genuine cooler breakdown or other problem.

trixi2011

mf240 wrote: »

Lorry driver that come here is sound out never a word and hes been collecting milk here for 30 + years.

He tells me some farmers can be a right pain.

lorry driver at home comes into the house every day for tea even the days he is not picking up.

trixi2011

C0N0R wrote: »

Was great rugby today in general, was a great way to finish it with France turning the ball over, was not impressed when they decided to run the penalty from their own line instead of kick it out though!!

missed the England French game sounds like it was some spectical

frazzledhome

So far so good. Another 2 grps of calves out. Only calves indoors are 2 Wo and less.

First group coming near weaning from looking at them. What weight should they be at weaning?

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

So far so good. Another 2 grps of calves out. Only calves indoors are 2 Wo and less.

First group coming near weaning from looking at them. What weight should they be at weaning?

Glanbia lad here tomorrow I've a batch not far off weaning too ill see what he thinks.
I like them to be nearly 90kgs any way

Greengrass1

Have a 10 yr old cow here due to calve soon. Always as dung like water weather she us dry or milking.
Was clipping there tails last week and said I'd give her a dose of zanil.
Seen her dunging there now dung like a rock
all cows were dosed with Albex 6 wks after housing and all cleared our apart from thus lady

orm0nd

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Have a 10 yr old cow here due to calve soon. Always as dung like water weather she us dry or milking.
Was clipping there tails last week and said I'd give her a dose of zanil.
Seen her dunging there now dung like a rock
all cows were dosed with Albex 6 wks after housing and all cleared our apart from thus lady

Rumen fluke ???

Greengrass1

orm0nd wrote: »

Rumen fluke ???

Would lead me to think so any way. But is always in good bcs

Greengrass1

frazzledhome wrote: »

So far so good. Another 2 grps of calves out. Only calves indoors are 2 Wo and less.

First group coming near weaning from looking at them. What weight should they be at weaning?

Double the birth weight plus 10 kgs at least 8 wks old.
wait until the smallest I'm your first batch hits this though was his advice for us

visatorro

bloody cruds in a cows quarter this morning, she ate meal alright because I had to give her extra few to draw that quarter. any ideas ?they were fairly big cruds aswell

freedominacup

visatorro wrote: »

bloody cruds in a cows quarter this morning, she ate meal alright because I had to give her extra few to draw that quarter. any ideas ?they were fairly big cruds aswell

Same here this morning. Put it down to the cold night. Didn't seem too bad an infection.

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

bloody cruds in a cows quarter this morning, she ate meal alright because I had to give her extra few to draw that quarter. any ideas ?they were fairly big cruds aswell

cobactan tubes are the business, 1 tube , only downside is 120 hour milk withdrawal

greysides

whelan2 wrote: »

cobactan tubes are the business, 1 tube , only downside is 120 hour milk withdrawal

But is it?

Dry cow tubes are designed to stay and sort out a problem or prevent establishment. Milking cow tubes are intended to carry out a guerilla raid on the quarter. If the withdrawal time is indicative of how long they hang around and presumably how effective they are, then is a short hit the best answer?

You are balancing loss of earnings against the chances of sub-clinical mastitis or a high cell count.

frazzledhome

greysides wrote: »

But is it?

Dry cow tubes are designed to stay and sort out a problem or prevent establishment. Milking cow tubes are intended to carry out a guerilla raid on the quarter. If the withdrawal time is indicative of how long they hang around and presumably how effective they are, then is a short hit the best answer?

You are balancing loss of earnings against the chances of sub-clinical mastitis or a high cell count.

My vet warns constantly about the folly and false economy of not finishing full course of antibiotics.

einn32

frazzledhome wrote: »

My vet warns constantly about the folly and false economy of not finishing full course of antibiotics.

I agree. Cobactin requires three treatments as it states on the leaflet. You are actually helping create resistance strains of bacteria by only administering one tube. Short term gain leading to a long term widespread problem. The withdrawal period is painful alright!

Prevent rather than treat disease.

whelan2

einn32 wrote: »

I agree. Cobactin requires three treatments as it states on the leaflet. You are actually helping create resistance strains of bacteria by only administering one tube. Short term gain leading to a long term widespread problem. The withdrawal period is painful alright!

Prevent rather than treat disease.

if the case is bad it gets the 3 tubes, in fairness i have given 2 cows just 1 tube, on the full tratment withdrawal is a week from start to finish. I am fully aware of building up resistance , one of my kids is resistant to some antibiotics due to contant use of them when she was young

Markcheese

MRSA,C dificile and other antibiotic resistant bugs supposed to be very prevalent among pig farmers( and their families) in Denmark and Holland . Some completely resistant at this stage - due to exposure- doubt it's different here .

leg wax

waiting for the vet,1 of my new heifers that is calved 3 weeks is in trouble ,she is forcing and her behind is all swelled as if she had a hard calving,shes in discomfort what ever is up any ideas before he gets here,

EpicPothole

I see a few lads high up in 2 of the West Cork coops have been caught feathering their own nest. a bit like the high up person in Glanbia a few months ago. And some people here wanted the glanbia man given a telling off and then brush it under the carpet. Fine them 5 times the quota they got and it'd soften their cough.

darragh_haven

EpicPothole wrote: »

I see a few lads high up in 2 of the West Cork coops have been caught feathering their own nest. a bit like the high up person in Glanbia a few months ago. And some people here wanted the glanbia man given a telling off and then brush it under the carpet. Fine them 5 times the quota they got and it'd soften their cough.

I presume you are on about this

whelan2

leg wax wrote: »

waiting for the vet,1 of my new heifers that is calved 3 weeks is in trouble ,she is forcing and her behind is all swelled as if she had a hard calving,shes in discomfort what ever is up any ideas before he gets here,

how is she?

Buford T. Justice XIX

darragh_haven wrote: »

I presume you are on about this

It looks like they accessed quota legally but, being board members in the know, kept most of it for themselves instead of allowing all farmers access to it.

Pretty crappy thing to do, if the reports are true:mad:

frazzledhome

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

It looks like they accessed quota legally but, being board members in the know, kept most of it for themselves instead of allowing all farmers access to it.

Pretty crappy thing to do, if the reports are true:mad:

Don't know how crappy it was but it was naive in the extreme

Milked out

Went clear in herd test thankfully, have to do the yearly one again in autumn

Deepsouthwest

frazzledhome wrote: »

Don't know how crappy it was but it was naive in the extreme

Crappy, naive, stinky whatever, they didn't do themselves any favours. Would find it hard to see those board members re-elected.

Greengrass1

Milked out wrote: »

Went clear in herd test thankfully, have to do the yearly one again in autumn

Helped a bit with the superlevy I Hope?

Milked out

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Helped a bit with the superlevy I Hope?

Wasn't locked up this year gg. Was a bad outbreak round here 3.5 y

darragh_haven

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

Crappy, naive, stinky whatever, they didn't do themselves any favours. Would find it hard to see those board members re-elected.

My blood would boil if it affected me. Crappy is not the word I'd use.... stealing from every over quota member of the co-ops pocket is more like it

Milked out

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Helped a bit with the superlevy I Hope?

Wasn't locked up this year gg. Was a bad outbreak round here 3 yrs ago, lost 10 1st and 2nd calvers, took us 12 months to go clear others a bit longer so have been.tested.every 6 months since in the area, didn't think I'd have to test again this spring but a neighbour had one went down in a factory last summer so we had to go again.

Buford T. Justice XIX

darragh_haven wrote: »

My blood would boil if it affected me. Crappy is not the word I'd use.... stealing from every over quota member of the co-ops pocket is more like it

That's the way the report reads alright but print media has form in hyping up a situation for their own ends. I would keep my powder dry until the full facts come out, is all.

Greengrass1

Have never had as good a bulling action in cows as we're getting so far this yr.
2 bulling most days.
5 at it here now.
Great to see

Brown Podzol

Have just calved the last few cows that will bring me to sr 3.5 on the grazing block where I intend stick for this year. 20 left to calve. Most will calve over the next three weeks.Must go back into those calved and take out any passengers. Where to draw the line. Some will flag themselves, older cows on three teat etc. I did a lot of culling over the last few years taking out any problem cows. Scc for last year average 80k and last result 65k so no scc problems, no lameness problems either. Would I take out the lowest solids cows? Low yielders?. Or just sell what calves from now on?

Milked out

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Have just calved the last few cows that will bring me to sr 3.5 on the grazing block where I intend stick for this year. 20 left to calve. Most will calve over the next three weeks.Must go back into those calved and take out any passengers. Where to draw the line. Some will flag themselves, older cows on three teat etc. I did a lot of culling over the last few years taking out any problem cows. Scc for last year average 80k and last result 65k so no scc problems, no lameness problems either. Would I take out the lowest solids cows? Low yielders?. Or just sell what calves from now on?

If you have nothing obvious to pull a cow out on that's calved would selling what's left be better as ones calved have more time to go back in calf thus keeping pattern tight plus no more baby calves to be minding etc. The Last year we sold everything that was to calve in April on was a super job could just focus on what's there, milking and grass with less work as calves were more or less reared

orm0nd

leg wax wrote: »

waiting for the vet,1 of my new heifers that is calved 3 weeks is in trouble ,she is forcing and her behind is all swelled as if she had a hard calving,shes in discomfort what ever is up any ideas before he gets here,

any update, ?

had one unable to pass water with the same symptoms

frazzledhome

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Have just calved the last few cows that will bring me to sr 3.5 on the grazing block where I intend stick for this year. 20 left to calve. Most will calve over the next three weeks.Must go back into those calved and take out any passengers. Where to draw the line. Some will flag themselves, older cows on three teat etc. I did a lot of culling over the last few years taking out any problem cows. Scc for last year average 80k and last result 65k so no scc problems, no lameness problems either. Would I take out the lowest solids cows? Low yielders?. Or just sell what calves from now on?

Lovely position to be in. I'd sell all left to calve

sandydan

EpicPothole wrote: »

I see a few lads high up in 2 of the West Cork coops have been caught feathering their own nest. a bit like the high up person in Glanbia a few months ago. And some people here wanted the glanbia man given a telling off and then brush it under the carpet. Fine them 5 times the quota they got and it'd soften their cough.

ah sure you cant be tough on top men,sure its they make profit-making decisions
imo one of those had enough going on without getting involved in quota shareout issues

leg wax

orm0nd wrote: »

any update, ?

had one unable to pass water with the same symptoms

she had no temp and loos fine in her general looks as in her eye and nose,he said it looks like that early stages of after eating something and now shes sensitive to the sun light.3 bottles left to give her a shot for a few days.

WheatenBriar

6 former glanbia farms including one New entrant within 5 miles of me on my road milking 1000+ cows between them are supplying strathroy now

whelan2

WheatenBriar wrote: »

6 former glanbia farms including one New entrant within 5 miles of me on my road milking 1000+ cows between them are supplying strathroy now

are you feeling under pressure to join them:) how are they getting on?

mahoney_j

WheatenBriar wrote: »

6 former glanbia farms including one New entrant within 5 miles of me on my road milking 1000+ cows between them are supplying strathroy now

More power to them and best of luck,question still remains to be answered is what price and at what solids ????.that info very slow comming forward.going to be a fair bit of chopping and changing of processors from next week.hope lads doing it look at big picture and take a long term view

WheatenBriar

whelan2 wrote: »

are you feeling under pressure to join them:) how are they getting on?

They seem fine,all happy out
Price wise give or take from one milk statement I saw they're not any worse off
Yeah I'm feeling a tad surrounded but staying where I am

mf240

mahoney_j wrote: »

More power to them and best of luck,question still remains to be answered is what price and at what solids ????.that info very slow comming forward.going to be a fair bit of chopping and changing of processors from next week.hope lads doing it look at big picture and take a long term view

Ten of yere lads moving to glanbia im told.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Just got the list of test bulls for this year. From 315 to 359 in EBIs as against 200 to 320 last year, avg of 333 this year:)

First scour cases this year last night also. Then the text came back that all 3 were BVD positive. Isolated now and expecting one at least to go.

The acidified milk seems to agree with my calves anyway. Thanks for the advice earlier on that folks.

Greengrass1

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Just got the list of test bulls for this year. From 315 to 359 in EBIs as against 200 to 320 last year, avg of 333 this year:)

First scour cases this year last night also. Then the text came back that all 3 were BVD positive. Isolated now and expecting one at least to go.

The acidified milk seems to agree with my calves anyway. Thanks for the advice earlier on that folks.

How do you get into that gene Ireland programme?
We were in it last yr not sure how I got into it but one if the bulls gave awful tough calvings

mahoney_j

mf240 wrote: »

Ten of yere lads moving to glanbia im told.

And more than double that to dairygold ,Fair play to them for having the balls to back their decision .i looked long and hard into it but building work to do here this summer put a stop to the move .share up and revolving fund just too much .anyway best of luck to them