AF Forum Mock Draft interest list 2013

HigginsJ

Ok I am honestly not trying to take over just want to keep this moving along.

Have PM'ed Phatkev to pick for the Rams.

TaosHum

Vaccaro is a great selection for the Rams.

HigginsJ

TaosHum wrote: »

Vaccaro is a great selection for the Rams.

Yea and they'd have plenty of options on offense with their next pick

frostie500

TaosHum wrote: »

Vaccaro is a great selection for the Rams.

If the Rams do get him they'd be very pleased. Great safety I just hope that the history of Longhorns DBs struggling early in their pro careers isnt held against him

Red Crow

Round 1:
Pick | Player | Pos | Team |College
1|Luke Joeckel|OT|Kansas City Chiefs|Texas A&M
2|Dion Jordan|DE/OLB|Jacksonville Jaguars|Oregon
3|Shariff Floyd|DT|Oakland Raiders|Florida
4|Eric Fisher|OT|Philadelphia Eagles|Central Michigan
5|Ezekiel Ansah|DE|Detroit Lions|BYU
6|DeMarcus Milliner|CB|Cleveland Browns|Alabama
7|Lane Johnson|OT|Arizona Cardinals|Oklahoma
8|Geno Smith|QB|Buffalo Billo|West Virginia
9|Jarvis Jones|OLB|New York Jets|Georgia
10|Chance Warmack|OG|Tennessee Titans|Alabama
11|Jonathan Cooper|OG|San Diego Chargers|North Carolina
12|Desmond Trufant|CB|Miami Dolphins|Washington
13|Xavier Rhodes|CB|Tampa Bay Buccaneers|Florida State
14|Star Lotulelei|DT|Carolina Panthers|Utah
15|Barkevious Mingo|OLB|New Orleans Saints|LSU
16|Kenny Vaccaro|S|St. Louis Rams|Texas

HigginsJ

Interesting pick JaMarcus. I never would have considered Werner as a 3-4 OLB but as you say that's how he has been working out.

I had an idea as to who you might pick with who was off the board but was way off the mark.

UnitedIrishman

Had to resist the temptation to pull a Jerry Jones type pick and went with a DT.

PM'd Barbarians to let them know they're on the clock.

UnitedIrishman

Had to resist the temptation to pull a Jerry Jones type pick and went with a DT.

PM'd Barbarians to let them know they're on the clock.

barbarians

SantryRed is filling in for tonc76 so I've messaged him. Chicago Bears are on the clock.

HigginsJ

barbarians wrote: »

SantryRed is filling in for tonc76 so I've messaged him. Chicago Bears are on the clock.

Thank you.

Brown could be good pick esp. If Kiwi is going back to play DE. Can I ask why you would take Brown over Ogletree or Minter?

HigginsJ

Really think at least 1 if not 2 WR's could be off the board IRL at this stage.

That being said I can see a run on WR's happening in our draft soon.

SantryRed

A list of who've gone would be great :pac:

Will have the pick done in the morning.

Leslie91

Here ya go Santry Red.

Round 1:
Pick Player Pos Team College
1 Luke Joeckel OT Kansas City Chiefs Texas A&M
2 Dion Jordan DE/OLB Jacksonville Jaguars Oregon
3 Shariff Floyd DT Oakland Raiders Florida
4 Eric Fisher OT Philadelphia Eagles Central Michigan
5 Ezekiel Ansah DE Detroit Lions BYU
6 DeMarcus Milliner CB Cleveland Browns Alabama
7 Lane Johnson OT Arizona Cardinals Oklahoma
8 Geno Smith QB Buffalo Billo West Virginia
9 Jarvis Jones OLB New York Jets Georgia
10 Chance Warmack OG Tennessee Titans Alabama
11 Jonathan Cooper OG San Diego Chargers North Carolina
12 Desmond Trufant CB Miami Dolphins Washington
13 Xavier Rhodes CB Tampa Bay Buccaneers Florida State
14 Star Lotulelei DT Carolina Panthers Utah
15 Barkevious Mingo OLB New Orleans Saints LSU
16 Kenny Vaccaro S St. Louis Rams Texas
17 Bjoern Werner DE Pittsburgh Steelers Florida St
18 Sheldon Richardson DT Dallas Cowboys Missouri
19 Arthur Brown LB NY Giants Kansas State

SantryRed

Pick made, thanks lads. Will tidy it up properly with reasoning later on tonight.

mikemac1

Bengals pick will be made tonight

mikemac1

TaosHum and the Rams pm'ed

Leslie91

For my own benefit as much as everyone else!

Round 1:
Pick Player Pos Team College
1 Luke Joeckel OT Kansas City Chiefs Texas A&M
2 Dion Jordan DE/OLB Jacksonville Jaguars Oregon
3 Shariff Floyd DT Oakland Raiders Florida
4 Eric Fisher OT Philadelphia Eagles Central Michigan
5 Ezekiel Ansah DE Detroit Lions BYU
6 DeMarcus Milliner CB Cleveland Browns Alabama
7 Lane Johnson OT Arizona Cardinals Oklahoma
8 Geno Smith QB Buffalo Billo West Virginia
9 Jarvis Jones OLB New York Jets Georgia
10 Chance Warmack OG Tennessee Titans Alabama
11 Jonathan Cooper OG San Diego Chargers North Carolina
12 Desmond Trufant CB Miami Dolphins Washington
13 Xavier Rhodes CB Tampa Bay Buccaneers Florida State
14 Star Lotulelei DT Carolina Panthers Utah
15 Barkevious Mingo OLB New Orleans Saints LSU
16 Kenny Vaccaro S St. Louis Rams Texas
17 Bjoern Werner DE Pittsburgh Steelers Florida St
18 Sheldon Richardson DT Dallas Cowboys Missouri
19 Arthur Brown LB NY Giants Kansas State
20 Cordarrelle Patterson WR Chicago Bears Tennessee
21 Alec Ogletree LB Cincinnati Bengals Georgia Bulldogs
22 Tavon Austin WR St Louis Rams West Virginia
23 Sylvester Williams DT Minnesota Vikings North Carolina

Leslie91

Had a tough choice to make. I could not believe Austin fell to 22, if he was there I'd had to have taken him for Luck. Ogletree would have been an option too. The other LBs left on the board did not do it for me. I thought about Menelik Watson for a moment but in the end plumped for the beef that is Jesse Williams out of Alabama. Comes from hard nosed working class stock in Oz, nothing has ever been handed to him, is real hungry and will love working for Pagano.

taidghbaby

Leslie91 wrote: »

Had a tough choice to make. I could not believe Austin fell to 22, if he was there I'd had to have taken him for Luck. Ogletree would have been an option too. The other LBs left on the board did not do it for me. I thought about Menelik Watson for a moment but in the end plumped for the beef that is Jesse Williams out of Alabama. Comes from hard nosed working class stock in Oz, nothing has ever been handed to him, is real hungry and will love working for Pagano.

Hmmm, not so sure on this one! Colts have 4 nose tackles (Frankyn, Tevasau, Chapman and McKinney) on the roster who will pretty much do the same as Williams - I.e. stop the run and eat up blockers! They also have a couple of others who can fill in at NT (RJF & Moala on passing downs)! Williams is better than any of the above but I really think we'd be looking at a pass rusher here, or maybe secondary!
Be hard to see us pass up on Austin too!

Red Crow

Round 1:
Pick | Player | Pos | Team |College
1|Luke Joeckel|OT|Kansas City Chiefs|Texas A&M
2|Dion Jordan|DE/OLB|Jacksonville Jaguars|Oregon
3|Shariff Floyd|DT|Oakland Raiders|Florida
4|Eric Fisher|OT|Philadelphia Eagles|Central Michigan
5|Ezekiel Ansah|DE|Detroit Lions|BYU
6|DeMarcus Milliner|CB|Cleveland Browns|Alabama
7|Lane Johnson|OT|Arizona Cardinals|Oklahoma
8|Geno Smith|QB|Buffalo Billo|West Virginia
9|Jarvis Jones|OLB|New York Jets|Georgia
10|Chance Warmack|OG|Tennessee Titans|Alabama
11|Jonathan Cooper|OG|San Diego Chargers|North Carolina
12|Desmond Trufant|CB|Miami Dolphins|Washington
13|Xavier Rhodes|CB|Tampa Bay Buccaneers|Florida State
14|Star Lotulelei|DT|Carolina Panthers|Utah
15|Barkevious Mingo|OLB|New Orleans Saints|LSU
16|Kenny Vaccaro|S|St. Louis Rams|Texas
17|Bjoern Werner|DE|Pittsburgh Steelers|Florida St
18|Sheldon Richardson|DT| Dallas Cowboys|Missouri
19|Arthur Brown|LB|New York Giants|Kansas State
20|Cordarrelle Patterson|WR| Chicago Bears|Tennessee
21|Alec Ogletree|LB| Cincinnati Bengals|Georgia Bulldogs
22|Tavon Austin|WR|St. Louis Rams|West Virginia
23|Sylvester Williams|DT|Minnesota Vikings|North Carolina
24|Jesse Williams|DT|Indianapolis Colts|Alabama

frostie500

Getting myself prepped for my Niners pick and taking a lot of names off my big board but there is lots of value left in the first round and the second will see some cracking players that could be very productive

Leslie91

taidghbaby wrote: »

Hmmm, not so sure on this one! Colts have 4 nose tackles (Frankyn, Tevasau, Chapman and McKinney) on the roster who will pretty much do the same as Williams - I.e. stop the run and eat up blockers! They also have a couple of others who can fill in at NT (RJF & Moala on passing downs)! Williams is better than any of the above but I really think we'd be looking at a pass rusher here, or maybe secondary!
Be hard to see us pass up on Austin too!

I didn't like any of the pass rushing OLB that were left. To be honest I was looking at T'eo and Hunt more than any of the OLBs.

GoldFour4

Vikes pick will be made before 5

taidghbaby

Leslie91 wrote: »

I didn't like any of the pass rushing OLB that were left. To be honest I was looking at T'eo and Hunt more than any of the OLBs.

Yeah it's a bit of an awkward spot for OLB's! Datone Jones would also have been an option!

Leslie91

taidghbaby wrote: »

Yeah it's a bit of an awkward spot for OLB's! Datone Jones would also have been an option!

I looked at him but he is v much a 4-3 DE and does not project to being an OLB in a 3-4. It had to be Jesse in the end, in the end it was between him and T-eo to be frank.

It is not like the Nose tackles or 3-4 DEs on the Colts roster right now are anything to write home about. He'll be a big upgrade and maybe allow one of the other bigger bodies to become a true 3-4 DE.

HigginsJ

Pick made and Skeleton boy pm'ed

kennyb3

Wonder will the guys come back and clean up the picks made previously - i.e. The bears. Getting the reasoning and bit of video is the fun part.

TaosHum

Love the Eifert pick to the Packers. Great value and would provide Rodgers with a more consistent threat through the seam.

DDC1990

TaosHum wrote: »

Love the Eifert pick to the Packers. Great value and would provide Rodgers with a more consistent threat through the seam.

Yeah, was thinking long and hard.

Was considering T'eo, but he wouldn't be a huge upgrade on Hawk and the rest of the LB'ers in GB, though I think he would improve the team.

With Crabtree heading to Tampa, there is a spot opposite Finley, and Rodgers loves using his TE.

Eifert has good hands, good athleticism and decent speed. He lined up at TE and WR for Notre Dame, so could be used in any recieving position.

Also, he improved his blocking immensely this year, helping guys like Cierre Woods, Theo Riddick and George Atkinson get good yardage against good teams.

What swayed me is his abilty to pull out big catches when his team needed him. He stood up planty times for ND this year in a number of tight games. Rodgers would have another guy he could trust to catch the ball in the clutch games against the Vikings, Bears or Lions to help free up the likes of Finley in a 2 TE set.

frostie500

TaosHum wrote: »

Love the Eifert pick to the Packers. Great value and would provide Rodgers with a more consistent threat through the seam.

Hated that and the Allen picks to the Texans...I had them lined up as possible targets with the Niners at 31!

If Eifert went to the Packers, or the Texans, he would be a great addition. Both teams need to add a TE and he would give them a great outlet for Rodgers or Schaub. Eifert really impressed me last year with his physicality.

Allen was a great pick by the Texans too. Perfect situation of team needs falling into position for a great value pick at 26. I was looking at him for the Niners because he would have been more of a deep threat than the likes of Crabtree or Boldin but would be a similar physical, aggressive type of player to Boldin

adrian522

I don't see the 49ers picking an offensive player in the first round to be honest. They need help in the secondary and on the defensive line before they think about WR's or TE's.

HigginsJ

frostie500 wrote: »

Hated that and the Allen picks to the Texans...I had them lined up as possible targets with the Niners at 31!

If Eifert went to the Packers, or the Texans, he would be a great addition. Both teams need to add a TE and he would give them a great outlet for Rodgers or Schaub. Eifert really impressed me last year with his physicality.

Allen was a great pick by the Texans too. Perfect situation of team needs falling into position for a great value pick at 26. I was looking at him for the Niners because he would have been more of a deep threat than the likes of Crabtree or Boldin but would be a similar physical, aggressive type of player to Boldin

If EiFert & Allen are on the board for the Texans it would surely be there dream scenario. I'm a big believer in Allen but either/or would give them that missing piece.

frostie500

adrian522 wrote: »

I don't see the 49ers picking an offensive player in the first round to be honest. They need help in the secondary and on the defensive line before they think about WR's or TE's.

The draft is all about deception so do I really want to waste my first rounder on a WR!

I do agree with you that the d-line and DBs are the key areas of need but there's a lot of good prospects at both positions should the Niners decide to get aggressive at either 31 or 34 to give Kaepernick another weapon. I think that with all their picks available that we'll see them move up the order in the second round and add a mid second round pick to give them four choices where there is a lot of value. They'll fill their needs at D-Line and DB very easily with their choice at 31 and in the second round

SantryRed

Updated the Bears' pick with reasoning.

adrian522

frostie500 wrote: »

The draft is all about deception so do I really want to waste my first rounder on a WR!

I do agree with you that the d-line and DBs are the key areas of need but there's a lot of good prospects at both positions should the Niners decide to get aggressive at either 31 or 34 to give Kaepernick another weapon. I think that with all their picks available that we'll see them move up the order in the second round and add a mid second round pick to give them four choices where there is a lot of value. They'll fill their needs at D-Line and DB very easily with their choice at 31 and in the second round

Yeah, there will be a lot of trading done on draft day. I hope we grab a few picks for next year.

I can't imagine them trading up in the first unless someone they really like starts to fall then I could see them moving up to around pick 15 or so.

I don't like Keenan Allen for the 49ers, he doesn't have blazing speed and we have plenty of receivers on the roster at the moment with Crabtree, Boldin, Jenkins,Williams,Manningham. Though only Jenkins is signed long term.

We do need another TE though, preferably someone who is a good blocker as well as a decent pass catcher.

JaMarcus Hustle

Jesus, AJ Jenkins is someone I completely forgot existed.

What was the story with him last year? Was he ever on the field?

adrian522

He was, he had zero receptions from 1 target.

He looked lost at times lining up in the wrong place and also looked like he needed to bulk up a good bit.

Obviously not tossing him aside just yet but this is a big off season for him.

If the 49ers are genuniely not confident in him I could see another receiver coming in as Boldin, Williams and Manningham all have just one year on their contract and Crabtree has just 2. And given the trouble signing Crabtree to his rookie deal I assume that won't be an easy re-negotiation.

Especially given Iuapti, Kaerpernick and Aldon Smith need to be resigned that year as well.

frostie500

When I was looking at highlights of Allen he seemed to have a lot of ability to stretch the field and play in a vertical offence which was why I thought he might be a good fit for the niners. But in saying that they were just highlights so obviously showcase him very well. I didn't get to see a lot of Pac-12 football last year but I'd love to see the Niners use the 34th pick and take Robert Woods who I loved watching at SC. Last year he was obviously overshadowed at SC by Marquise Lee but I think that there is tremendous value in Woods who is a very polished route runner and comes from a pro style offence and seems to have a very good understanding of route trees and concepts. Im not sure if he ran track in college, I dont think he did, but he was the state record holder in 200 and 400m in high school so he'd offer a lot of ability to force teams to respect the deep pass which is one of Kaepernick's strengths.

Im not sure if the Niners would be aggressive enough to try and trade up to the mid-teens but that's mostly because I think there is so much value available in the last third of the first round and the middle of the second. They've got a great opportunity to really fill out their depth chart in this year's draft at the positions that I think they are lacking a bit.

At the end of the day they showed last year that they have a superb roster and they really only need to add one or two pieces to it to be very strong going forward. If the real draft were to play out anything approaching ours (and with trades etc its highly likely it will resemble nothing like ours!) I would expect the Niners to take a safety at 31, probably Jonathan Cyprien from Florida International, but I actually think that taking Cornellios Carradine would be a fantastic selection here.

I saw a few Florida State games last year, including the Gators game when Carradine got injured, and while taking a guy with only one year starting experience in college is a risk Carradine was superb last year with the Seminoles. I thought that he looks to be very good against the run and any time I saw him he seemed to always have a nose for getting to the ball carrier so while he lacked experience he has great instincts.

Take him at 31, Woods at 34 and trade into somewhere around 40 to take a DB. I think that someone like Jonathan Cyprien will obviously also be a target for the Niners at 31 if he were still to be around but if they trade into the late 30's they should be able to get Johnathan Banks of Miss State. He was a starter for most of his four years and very productive in his first three years. He decided to return for his senior year and his draft stock took a major hit but he was a very good CB for most of his college career having initially been a safety and this is where I think his future could end up. He is very good in coverage but lacks a bit in man to man situations. That could give the Niners three players that would fill obvious needs.

As a matter of interest does anyone know much about Gavin Escobar? When I was doing my homework for the TE position I saw his name getting mentioned a lot but I dont know much about him other than that he's 6'6 and 255 and seems like a pretty handy player

Red Crow

Round 1:
Pick | Player | Pos | Team |College
1|Luke Joeckel|OT|Kansas City Chiefs|Texas A&M
2|Dion Jordan|DE/OLB|Jacksonville Jaguars|Oregon
3|Shariff Floyd|DT|Oakland Raiders|Florida
4|Eric Fisher|OT|Philadelphia Eagles|Central Michigan
5|Ezekiel Ansah|DE|Detroit Lions|BYU
6|DeMarcus Milliner|CB|Cleveland Browns|Alabama
7|Lane Johnson|OT|Arizona Cardinals|Oklahoma
8|Geno Smith|QB|Buffalo Billo|West Virginia
9|Jarvis Jones|OLB|New York Jets|Georgia
10|Chance Warmack|OG|Tennessee Titans|Alabama
11|Jonathan Cooper|OG|San Diego Chargers|North Carolina
12|Desmond Trufant|CB|Miami Dolphins|Washington
13|Xavier Rhodes|CB|Tampa Bay Buccaneers|Florida State
14|Star Lotulelei|DT|Carolina Panthers|Utah
15|Barkevious Mingo|OLB|New Orleans Saints|LSU
16|Kenny Vaccaro|S|St. Louis Rams|Texas
17|Bjoern Werner|DE|Pittsburgh Steelers|Florida St
18|Sheldon Richardson|DT| Dallas Cowboys|Missouri
19|Arthur Brown|LB|New York Giants|Kansas State
20|Cordarrelle Patterson|WR| Chicago Bears|Tennessee
21|Alec Ogletree|LB| Cincinnati Bengals|Georgia
22|Tavon Austin|WR|St. Louis Rams|West Virginia
23|Sylvester Williams|DT|Minnesota Vikings|North Carolina
24|Jesse Williams|DT|Indianapolis Colts|Alabama
25|DeAndre Hopkins|WR|Minnesota Vikings|Clemson
26|Tyler Eifert|TE|Green Bay Packers|Notre Dame
27|Keenan Allen|WR|Houston Texans|California

frostie500

Who has the next pick?

HigginsJ

I PM'ed skeleton boy for the broncos pick Friday. Someone else can step in or I'll stick one up later

Red Crow

I picked for the Broncos there. Rafathegreat1 has been banned so I suppose whoever wants to make the pick should just go ahead if that's all right with Higgins

HigginsJ

Thanks eli.

Pats pick made and Dohnny Jepp PM'ed for the falcons

Dohnny Jepp

Pick made will pm whoever is next now

OAOB

Think Carradine is a great pick, that guy has serious potential and if he was able to work out for teams at the combine he'd be gone long before the 30th pick

HigginsJ

OAOB wrote: »

Think Carradine is a great pick, that guy has serious potential and if he was able to work out for teams at the combine he'd be gone long before the 30th pick

He has a work out April 20th. Apparently there is real chance if he performs well he might sneak top 10

frostie500

Just online now, internet packed up on me at home last night, so I'll make my pick this morning. Carradine would be a great pick up by the Falcons by the way, really talented player and hopefully he'll come back from his injury successfully

frostie500

Pick made, and Im reasonably sure it will be one that will be heavily questioned but there's a bit of reasoning given in the post about why I made my selection!

PM sent to SK1979 for the Ravens selection so now I gotta start doing my Chiefs homework....not looking forward to watching tape of their games last year!

SK1979

Ravens pick made.

I'll update the entry later with more reasons and vids etc but conscious about keeping the momentum going. I'm in work at the mo so cant access Youtube etc.

Matt Elam was an easy enough pick for the Ravens. While ILB might be an equally big need, I'm not sure how hot the Ravens would be on Te'o or Minter so I went with Elam who I think is a very solid FS.

WR is also a big need but plenty of depth there so I think they'll pick up one later.

Langdon Alder has been pm'd.

adrian522

frostie500 wrote: »

Pick made, and Im reasonably sure it will be one that will be heavily questioned but there's a bit of reasoning given in the post about why I made my selection!

PM sent to SK1979 for the Ravens selection so now I gotta start doing my Chiefs homework....not looking forward to watching tape of their games last year!

Interesting pick. i understand why you went there and I could see the 49ers going CB early but as you say trading out of that pick is a lot more likely.
I wouldn't be at all disappointed with the pick to be honest. I subscribe to the theory that you can never have too many corners and with the 49ers picking 2 picks later they can address a few needs at this stage if thats what they decide to do.

Another reason I like this pick is a quick look at the 49ers current CB's:

1. Carlos Rogers

Getting on in years, even though he is signed through 2015 he is the highest paid corner on the roster. He's scheduled to earn $5.5 million in 2013, $6.25 million in 2014, and $7.25 million in 2015. Realistically he could be a cap casualty in the next few years.

2. Tarell Brown:

Good CB, but only has 1 year left on his contract, if he plays well again next year he could be in line for a payday that the 49ers may not want to cough up.

3. Chris Culliver:

Still on his rookie deal, I like him as a player in spite of his troubles in the superbowl.

4.Nnamdi Asomugha

Only signed for 1 year and realistically that's probably going to be the extent of his stay in SF as if he plays very well some team will give him big money again.

All in all I like the idea of drafting a corner early.