Joyriding Scum In Limerick City

gerarda

This man has the answer:

bazz26

The Reamer wrote: »

Sure if twas insured what would he have to complain about. Claim on the F&T and have a new car in the driveway next morning.

And who do you think the insurance companies will recoup the loss of them having to pay out on claims? You and me through higher premiums the following year.

It's bad enough that our taxes have to pay for these waster's free handouts without having to pay for their juvenile kicks too.

seaniefr

bazz26 wrote: »

And who do you think the insurance companies will recoup the loss of them having to pay out on claims? You and me through higher premiums the following year.

It's bad enough that our taxes have to pay for these waster's free handouts without having to pay for their juvenile kicks too.

I feel sickened every time I read about lads like this I really feel that these scum should be made work for any money they get from the state it shuld be a last resort NOT a right! I had the misfortune to be on the dole for a whole month some time back before the last boom and in signing on I saw this piece of filth banging on the CWO's window going on about his rights and how he wanted his money and all the while his mate was grinning away like a Cheshire Cat and smiling at me. I really wished I had a gun that particular day...........

Wilbert13

The Reamer wrote: »

Sure if twas insured what would he have to complain about. Claim on the F&T and have a new car in the driveway next morning.

He will only get the book value of the car which means he will lose out on anything he has spent on it like wheels, spoilers, car kit etc. He would also have to cover the policy excess so he will be out of pocket for at least a few hundred euros as well as losing any no claims bonus he had.

jordainius

The Reamer wrote: »

Sure if twas insured what would he have to complain about. Claim on the F&T and have a new car in the driveway next morning.

I hope your car or home gets broken into one day, its not because I wish harm on you- I genuinely don't, but maybe you'd finally realise that being insured is of no comfort.

Some scumbags attempted to steal my car in Galway two years ago, they were unsuccessful as my neighbours caught them in the act and they ran away like the rats they are. They damaged the door to gain entry and they broke the steering column in their attempt to break the steering lock. They didn't get my car in the end, I was never comfortable in that car again, just knowing that those scumbags were sat inside my car made me feel very voilated.

This young man's car was actually stolen and destroyed, so he must feel a million times worse than I did when mine was broken into.

Do you not understand that, or does it have to happen to you before you get it?? Insurance compensation means nothing to someone who has to spend the rest of their life wondering will their next car be stolen too, or will their house be broken into again and so on.

krudler

^ that, both my neighbours car and housemates one were vandalised within a few nights of each other, the neighbour drives a passat and they nicked his wheels, obviously got a look at my housemates car and decided to come back, broken window looking for the locking nut for the wheel, so word of advice keep the locking nut out of the car unless you're going on trips and would need it

Newbie75

Really send em abroad??give em a free one way ticket to sun and sea,why not give the honest hard workin people a ticket overseas...do u not think we get enough bad publicity because of these people and u think we should send em on a holiday,im actually wonderin are you serious or just havin a laugh,none of this has to do with respect for god or the guards these people dont give a f*** bout anyone they wud love a ticket out of here and u want to completely disgrace the irish by sendin em abroad to do what they do cos they wont change just because their in a different country they will keep doin it,im shocked by ur opinion..

john_cappa

krudler wrote: »

^ that, both my neighbours car and housemates one were vandalised within a few nights of each other, the neighbour drives a passat and they nicked his wheels, obviously got a look at my housemates car and decided to come back, broken window looking for the locking nut for the wheel, so word of advice keep the locking nut out of the car unless you're going on trips and would need it

You need your lock nut for any trip. If you get a puncture two miles from home then what are you going to do? Makes zero sense.


Also they will break the window regardless of whether or not you have the nut in the car or not. The trick is to have the nut hidden properly in the car and not in the glove box or somewhere very obvious.

BobMc

miller50841 wrote: »

Just checked youtube has blocked/ taken down the videos so anyone see's anymore of these thugs on the net report it if they have no audience maybe some day they may actually stop..

Glad the vids are down, I hope I'm not the only one that contacted you tube regards the content so I'm glad they're down

Plug

>SNIP<

Mod Post: Advocating violence or any illegal act is not allowed in this forum.

Also the event/tragedy that was linked to your idea was done in very poor taste.

bazz26

john_cappa wrote: »

You need your lock nut for any trip. If you get a puncture two miles from home then what are you going to do? Makes zero sense.


Also they will break the window regardless of whether or not you have the nut in the car or not. The trick is to have the nut hidden properly in the car and not in the glove box or somewhere very obvious.

They don't even need the lock nut these days, you can buy tools cheaply enough these days to forcibly remove them.

john_cappa

bazz26 wrote: »

They don't even need the lock nut these days, you can buy tools cheaply enough these days to forcibly remove them.

Depending on the nut design a decent vice grip will do the trick!

dr.fuzzenstein

BobMc wrote: »

Glad the vids are down, I hope I'm not the only one that contacted you tube regards the content so I'm glad they're down

Yes, that completely sorted the original problem, now that we can't see it anymore, the problem has obviously gone away...:rolleyes:

Insect Overlord

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Yes, that completely sorted the original problem, now that we can't see it anymore, the problem has obviously gone away...:rolleyes:

Why the attitude?

BobMc

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Yes, that completely sorted the original problem, now that we can't see it anymore, the problem has obviously gone away...:rolleyes:

Nope the problem is far from gone away but I think giving them a public platform to display there illegal activities is not acceptable :rolleyes: back at ya

dr.fuzzenstein

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Why the attitude?

BobMc wrote: »

Nope the problem is far from gone away but I think giving them a public platform to display there illegal activities is not acceptable :rolleyes: back at ya

No problem with it being removed from Youtube as such.
But what else is being done? Is anyone investigating? Will people be brought to justice? Anyone fined or sent to jail?
Sadly I'd say no, because a lot of the time it seems that the Gardai are too under-resourced to tackle these guys and it seems they don't fancy a bloody nose.
It's worrying to think that we live in a country where the state doesn't have the power to take on the criminal underworld. And if said underworld fancies it, they could even take on the state.
And maybe I'm used to Germany, if there's a disturbance of the peace, a large crowd of police will arrive within a very short time, big guys, minimum 6 foot tall, dressed in black, riot gear, batons, pepper spray, tazers dogs, water canons (the water has a good dose of pepper spray in it) and of course some real firepower too.
There the police will not make sure that they arrive long after the trouble has gone becaused they're scared of doing their job. Of course having the manpower, training and gear to do the job in the first place helps. I would not want to be one of three gards in a crappy ford mondeo armed with nothing more than bad breath, having to take on a whole housing estate of violent delinquints.

Kess73

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

No problem with it being removed from Youtube as such.
But what else is being done? Is anyone investigating? Will people be brought to justice? Anyone fined or sent to jail?
Sadly I'd say no, because a lot of the time it seems that the Gardai are too under-resourced to tackle these guys and it seems they don't fancy a bloody nose.
It's worrying to think that we live in a country where the state doesn't have the power to take on the criminal underworld. And if said underworld fancies it, they could even take on the state.
And maybe I'm used to Germany, if there's a disturbance of the peace, a large crowd of police will arrive within a very short time, big guys, minimum 6 foot tall, dressed in black, riot gear, batons, pepper spray, tazers dogs, water canons (the water has a good dose of pepper spray in it) and of course some real firepower too.
There the police will not make sure that they arrive long after the trouble has gone becaused they're scared of doing their job. Of course having the manpower, training and gear to do the job in the first place helps. I would not want to be one of three gards in a crappy ford mondeo armed with nothing more than bad breath, having to take on a whole housing estate of violent delinquints.

Have to agree about the German police. I lived about 40 km south of Stuttgart for a number of years, but worked and socialised in Stuttgart. One thing that always stood out was the policing and how quickly they could respond to anything.

One thing that has stuck in my memory was an incident that happened after I had been there for about two months. I was sitting down having a drink near one of the entrances to the Schlossplatz when two guys started acting up about 100 yards away. They were drunk and out for a fight. A woman near me got onto her phone and rang the police. I gave a wry smile as I was expecting a response time similar to what I was used to back in Liverpool.

In what felt like two or three minutes there were policemen entering the square from a number of entrances along with a few police vehicles. One of the two trouble makers spotted them coming and dropped to his kness straight away. His mate decided to start shouting abuse at the police and gesturing like he had a weapon. In a flash the police drew their sidearms and the guy pretty much lacked himself. The police converged on him and he and his buddy were taken without ceremony to the awaiting green and white police van.


As the years went by I got to see the green and white brigade ( of course nowadays those colours don't exist) going about their business in a manner that always impressed me.

Agree as well with your description of how the police look. Generally tall and fit looking whilst carrying enough visible tools/weapons to let you know they mean business.

Comhrá

Kess73 wrote: »

Agree as well with your description of how the police look. Generally tall and fit looking whilst carrying enough visible tools/weapons to let you know they mean business.

As to our beleaguered Garda force on the street ..... I wish

The Germans still do a lot of things a lot better than we do here.

Kess73

tippman1 wrote: »

As to our beleaguered Garda force on the street ..... I wish

The Germans still do a lot of things a lot better than we do here.

You won't see too many pot bellied German police or small scrawny looking ones that's for sure.


Of course the funding and training they receive is a massive factor in that, and one would imagine if the Irish police received similar funding and training along with having to meet similar set standards of fitness etc., that the Irish force could achieve similar levels. Certain legislation would need to be changed in this country also I imagine to set up a Germanic style police force here, although one could argue that the same thing or proper use of current legislation is already badly needed to allow our current police force to be able to do their job properly as I suspect many good Gardai see great work go up in smoke thanks to our seemingly lenient legal system.

The German state police are not perfect by any means, far from it, but they do inspire a certain confidence so that one is fairly sure that if something kicks off or you are in danger that once they are called some very effective help is on the way quickly.


Another thing that is done well over there is the manner in which the police force for each state manages to, for the most part, maintain similar standards and procedures, whereas over here you can go to one city and see lots of street patrols etc daily and go to another and hardly see any on a regular basis.


As I said already, they are not a perfect force, but they would not be a bad one to copy aspects of.

dr.fuzzenstein

Kess73 wrote: »

You won't see too many pot bellied German police or small scrawny looking ones that's for sure.


Of course the funding and training they receive is a massive factor in that, and one would imagine if the Irish police received similar funding and training along with having to meet similar set standards of fitness etc., that the Irish force could achieve similar levels. Certain legislation would need to be changed in this country also I imagine to set up a Germanic style police force here, although one could argue that the same thing or proper use of current legislation is already badly needed to allow our current police force to be able to do their job properly as I suspect many good Gardai see great work go up in smoke thanks to our seemingly lenient legal system.

The German state police are not perfect by any means, far from it, but they do inspire a certain confidence so that one is fairly sure that if something kicks off or you are in danger that once they are called some very effective help is on the way quickly.


Another thing that is done well over there is the manner in which the police force for each state manages to, for the most part, maintain similar standards and procedures, whereas over here you can go to one city and see lots of street patrols etc daily and go to another and hardly see any on a regular basis.


As I said already, they are not a perfect force, but they would not be a bad one to copy aspects of.

I'd say the best country to get rd of someone you don't like is Ireland.
If you are caught at all, you will then have to be convicted and it does happen a lot that you get off scott free even though you shot someone in the head in a crowded pub in front of hundreds of witnesses. You then get to walk out of court and give the entire country the finger through the assembled press.
Even if you are convicted, with the right solicitor (paid for by the state, of course) you might get 10 years, 5 if you're lucky or even a suspended sentence.
So everytime I think "I could KILL that guy!", a little voice in my head says "and why not? With the soft system here, you might not even do any time"

Roosta

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Macquarie_Fields_riots

Aus police responce to 'Joyridin' Scum' . Following this incident NSW police purchased water cannon's etc and Gov pumped a heap of funds into area , new skate-park ( ungraffited to this day ), houses done up , new tennis courts etc etc and all quite since then . Food for thought ?

Joeface

have had this happen me Twice .

Once from outside the Crescent shopping center in limerick , went to see the Road , depressing movie came out car gone.
Second time outside my house. which is 20km form limerick.
First time car was completely wrecked , just would not light for them.(was on youtube at one point)
Second Time Gardai Came across the car a day later with them still driving it they bailed out of the car , Gardai had to stay with the property so I got the car , I am still driving it.

In both Cases ppl were got for the Thefts in the end . I was contacted both times with in 6months to say how they were caught how much time they got 18month in both if remember. never given names as they were minors.

All I know is I was so far out of pocket , Replacing or Paying for repairs 18months which they prob server 6 was not enough.

I would prob go with the Idea that If an insurance company pays out and later someone is caught for the Theft damage and so on, they are made pay back the insurance company and you get your Claim cleared against you.

Second something like military school ,,, Brake them down and build back up but don't teach them how to use guns.