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I could be wrong about how Titans did financially (perhaps finding a different audience?) I just remember all teen titans (some of the best presentation of that series) fans being dissapointed. So it didn't do well with the original fanbase is what I should've phrased it like. That's my main worry with most of hollywood adaptions tbh. They don't have any new ideas and often do wrong to known IPs just so its brand can carry it. The shows standalone are probably not that bad half the time if they were unique ideas but they'd likely not get any traction then.
Lol I just read a comment someone saying it looks like discount game of thrones
That's your obsession not mine. Race is more than skin colour ffs. Half indian is not what my mind goes to when thinking of Yennefer from the bloody Polish Witcher IP. What are you even arguing for anyway? Netflix has good casting history? Maybe it's all just opinion but then it's my opinion that hollywood couldn't cast a shadow correctly when it comes to adaptions, especially video game adaptions (agent 47Your problem comes down to skin colour.
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And what images comes across your mind when you hear "Witcher Elves"? This?
Again unrecognisable as witcher if someone didn't tell me. Hollywood quality right there although I'll admit it IS just promotional material but I still remember the pocket-money budgeted cosplayers outside Ghost In The Shell movie debut literally looked more like the characters from the animated movie & show than the live action blockbuster managed to whip up with all its millions.0 -
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Robert ninja wrote: »I could be wrong about how Titans did financially (perhaps finding a different audience?) I just remember all teen titans (some of the best presentation of that series) fans being dissapointed. So it didn't do well with the original fanbase is what I should've phrased it like. That's my main worry with most of hollywood adaptions tbh. They don't have any new ideas and often do wrong to known IPs just so its brand can carry it. The shows standalone are probably not that bad half the time if they were unique ideas but they'd likely not get any traction then.
You're indeed wrong. Initially the show was lambasted during the trailers and early announcements. However, when the show actually came out the reviews of it were very positive, and even I admitted my initial thoughts were wrong.Robert ninja wrote: »That's your obsession not mine. Race is more than skin colour ffs. Half indian is not what my mind goes to when thinking of Yennefer from the bloody Polish Witcher IP. What are you even arguing for anyway? Netflix has good casting history? Maybe it's all just opinion but then it's my opinion that hollywood couldn't cast a shadow correctly when it comes to adaptions, especially video game adaptions (agent 47)
You quite literally just proven your problem is with the skin colour of the actresses chosen.
Henry Cavill is a Brit, why aren't you annoyed they didn't cast a Polish actor?
IMO Netflix casting can be hit and miss, sometimes great and sometimes awful.0 -
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It's a TV series BASED on the books. They have artistic licence to do whatever they like and improve on the books where they see fit particularly in ethnic diversity and lets face it there is lots of room for improvement. Apart from that, who really gives a Fk.Robert ninja wrote: »I could be wrong about how Titans did financially (perhaps finding a different audience?) I just remember all teen titans (some of the best presentation of that series) fans being dissapointed. So it didn't do well with the original fanbase is what I should've phrased it like. That's my main worry with most of hollywood adaptions tbh. They don't have any new ideas and often do wrong to known IPs just so its brand can carry it. The shows standalone are probably not that bad half the time if they were unique ideas but they'd likely not get any traction then.
Lol I just read a comment someone saying it looks like discount game of thrones
That's your obsession not mine. Race is more than skin colour ffs. Half indian is not what my mind goes to when thinking of Yennefer from the bloody Polish Witcher IP. What are you even arguing for anyway? Netflix has good casting history? Maybe it's all just opinion but then it's my opinion that hollywood couldn't cast a shadow correctly when it comes to adaptions, especially video game adaptions (agent 47)
And what images comes across your mind when you hear "Witcher Elves"? This?
Again unrecognisable as witcher if someone didn't tell me. Hollywood quality right there although I'll admit it IS just promotional material but I still remember the pocket-money budgeted cosplayers outside Ghost In The Shell movie debut literally looked more like the characters from the animated movie & show than the live action blockbuster managed to whip up with all its millions.
Personally, I think she looks deadly.0 -
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Henry Cavill is a Brit, why aren't you annoyed they didn't cast a Polish actor?
IMO Netflix casting can be hit and miss, sometimes great and sometimes awful.
If the reason they cast Henry was that the showrunners considered the lack of white Englishmen in the source material to be problematic.... then you might have had a point 0 -
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Like the writing staff?The Phantom Pain wrote: »Because people bring their real world BS into things that are supposed to be fun.
Then you're at odds with Netflix hiring practices because they do care what race their cast is and actively audition with discrimination to hire "BAME" aka "please no white people".could not give a f*ck what race she is
Oh, someone dares not spend money on X corporate product, there must be a deep reason for this that is disturbing to me.The Phantom Pain wrote: »saying you're un subscribing it goes beyond that initial jarring reaction and suggests something deeper.
I'm not the only one: Netflix lost $17 billion
FYI I've never had a netflix subscription. I mentioned I wasn't subbing for this, not unsubbing.0 -
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The Phantom Pain wrote: »Because people bring their real world BS into things that are supposed to be fun.
Yep,wouldn't it be great if companies were creating fun things that weren't full of *current year* bull**** like diversity quotas and everything-is-about-Trump?
We're watching the entertainment industries having a nervous breakdown and expecting us to enjoy it.
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So here's the challenge with casting by appearance (whether that's by race, hair colour, height, whatever physical characteristics).
First you need someone who looks like the character in question, which is already dramatically narrowing your field of candidates. Then you need to actually find them. Then you need to ensure they're a good actor who can bring something fresh to the role - so you're down to a very small field indeed, perhaps already out of luck. Then the actor needs to be available and willing for the production. They need to have decent chemistry with the rest of the cast. And then you'll probably need agreement between all the key players - casting director, director, producer and perhaps even funder.
Ultimately - assuming there's no commercial shenanigans afoot and there's a degree of creative freedom involved in the casting - the most important factor is whether they're a good actor. If you get someone who looks like the fictional character as described or shown in source material, great - there are some brilliant casting directors out there who'll do their best to get the absolute best candidate! If not, also great! Physical appearance is an incredibly restrictive casting barrier for all the reasons described above, and ultimately something pretty much everyone won't particularly care about if the performance is good enough.
Naturally, it would be naive to assume everyone is cast based on acting talent alone
That's completely not the case in reality. And there are plenty of circumstances where some kind of physical attribute is essential for the character in question - a production about race relations, realistic or fantastical, will obviously have far less leeway. In The Witcher, you're naturally not going to be casting a 6'5" person as a dwarf unless you have a healthy CG and effects budget 
There are also cases where extra efforts should be made if the role calls for an underrepresented minority actor - that's why there was such a backlash to Scarlett Johannson's casting in Ghost in the Shell, as at the time there were few lead roles for Asian-American actors (especially when the film works itself in weird loops to explain why she's not Asian). But for the most part what's key is that a performance captures the spirit and essence of the character in question, and brings something fresh and unique to the role. Restricting your casting to lookalikes means you're far less likely to get that.
How will all this play out in the context of The Witcher? Who knows *shrugs*. Personally I think the trailer looks a bit underwhelming mid-budget fantasy to me, and I'm not super passionate about the source material. I believe Cavill is a pretty bland actor... although that could suit the characterisation of Geralt in much of The Witcher 3 0 -
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