Xbox One - General Discussion (NO DISCUSSION REGARDING PS4 - MOD WARNING Post 6903)

Richard Dower

arch_stanton wrote: »

Talk here of mandatory installs tied to your live account and an installation fee for any further installations - http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/05/xbox-one-analysis/

second hand game market = RIP

Crann na Beatha

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Retr0gamer

super_furry wrote: »

Uhhh-ooh. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

"Microsoft has confirmed that all Xbox One games will require mandatory installation onto the system's hard drive and, to install the same disc onto another user's drive, a fee must be paid."

Wow hold on a minute, if that's true MS can **** right off.

Orizio

At the end of the day they are going after the 'home entertainment' market...but isn't that market far more saturated than the gaming market? What can this thing do that my laptop can't? Why focus on TV **** so much when that medium is slowly dying anyway?

COYVB

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Wow hold on a minute, if that's true MS can **** right off.

It's true

And they're "encouraging" developers to activate always on. Essentially they've completely passed the buck

PhlegmyMoses

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Wow hold on a minute, if that's true MS can **** right off.

If it's true, I called it a while ago. I'd be surprised MS went with it before Sony, though.

Captain Chaos

How would this work. You get a CD key with the game to install it, then after that you pay for a new key? I assume the installation key is linked to your account then so you can install and uninstall as needed.

COYVB

Captain Chaos wrote: »

How would this work. You get a CD key with the game to install it, then after that you pay for a new key. I assume the installation key is linked to your account then so you can install and uninstall as needed.

Seems console linked, rather than account linked, but I've not had clarification yet

Richard Dower

any pics of the console....closeups

NTMK

TiGeR KiNgS wrote: »

I suspect the console is not completely finalised yet. I'd say they are still considering a higher spec'd GPU (complete speculation on my part but seems logical).

the reason they havent given it is becuase its a custom made gpu

but if you want the spec look at a 7970M and think 5-10% slower atm the 8 series card will be a rebrand

Its the same as the PS4

Captain Chaos

Richard Dower wrote: »

any pics of the console....closeups

There's a few replicas in Power City.:pac:

Arawn

If I install it off a disc then I have a ton of coasters for drinks, this console is really pushing me towards pc

hightower1

Richard Dower wrote: »

any pics of the console....closeups

Yeah, just released. Here ya go....

corcaigh07

disappionting that they boasted about the extra servers for LIVE and how amazing it is and then said very little. Why more servers?

Looks like 360 is getting soundly ignored from now on too.

Jet Black

Richard Dower wrote: »

any pics of the console....closeups

<My avatar.

Captain Chaos

Arawn wrote: »

If I install it off a disc then I have a ton of coasters for drinks, this console is really pushing me towards pc

PC games worked like that since forever. Install and still required the CD in the drive. Well most did or do.

NTMK

Arawn wrote: »

If I install it off a disc then I have a ton of coasters for drinks, this console is really pushing me towards pc

you use them to blind your friends when you play fifa

its what i do anyway :pac:

PhlegmyMoses

COYVB wrote: »

Seems console linked, rather than account linked, but I've not had clarification yet

Surely it'll have to be both? One license for console, one for profile. Console dies, bring your profile to your new console and transfer the license.

Richard Dower

back arse of it; http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-21-microsoft-reveals-next-xbox-one

Arawn

Carnegie

Sony and Microsoft made a gentleman's agreement not to use the latest hardware in their consoles, they want to focus on keeping costs low to maximise profits, and saps will buy these consoles in their droves anyway so they can get away with it. Hopefully Apple or Samsung will go into this space to give us a half decent console and some much needed competition for the industry.

COYVB

Carnegie wrote: »

Sony and Microsoft made a gentleman's agreement not to use the latest hardware in their consoles, they want to focus on keeping costs low to maximise profits, and saps will buy these consoles in their droves anyway so they can get away with it. Hopefully Apple or Samsung will go into this space to give us a half decent console and some much needed competition for the industry.

Consoles never use the latest hardware, it's impossible given the lead times for game development. If you want launch titles you need to use 12-18 month old hardware

Skerries

Pushtrak

Deano7788 wrote: »

Don Mattrick was interviewed on Gamestrailers just after it and confirmed it wasn't always on and expressly said you could play single player without a connection

Link?

Myrddin

COYVB wrote: »

Seems console linked, rather than account linked, but I've not had clarification yet

Really?? So in the event of the inevitable console failure a few years down the road...that would be the story?

COYVB

Not backwards compatible - confirmed

COYVB

Deano7788 wrote: »

Don Mattrick was interviewed on Gamestrailers just after it and confirmed it wasn't always on and expressly said you could play single player without a connection

Correct, the console doesnt force you to be always on. HOWEVER MS is "strongly encouraging" developers to make their games require always on connectivity

COYVB

EnterNow wrote: »

Really?? So in the event of the inevitable console failure a few years down the road...that would be the story?

Ask Nintendo :P

Captain Chaos

Carnegie wrote: »

Sony and Microsoft made a gentleman's agreement not to use the latest hardware in their consoles, they want to focus on keeping costs low to maximise profits, and saps will buy these consoles in their droves anyway so they can get away with it. Hopefully Apple or Samsung will go into this space to give us a half decent console and some much needed competition for the industry.

Have you looked at the history of consoles and their specs compared to PCs.

Consoles take so long to design and produce to market that will always be at least 12-18 months behind top end PCs. You will never ever get a console of equal spec of a current PC at release. It's not possible.

But and the big but is that consoles and their games are optomized for them. Games for PCs have to cater for a wide range of specs and need the extra oommphh with all the other backround programs running on them.

Deano7788

Pushtrak wrote: »

Link?

There isn't one, it was during a livestream. It might be put up later. It seems they're trying to go about it in a sneakier way though.