Xbox One - General Discussion (NO DISCUSSION REGARDING PS4 - MOD WARNING Post 6903)

EDDIE WATERS

Seen this on reddit

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/pre-order-xbox-one/disclaimer

el dude

bk wrote: »

Well Titanfall is also coming to the 360 and PC so you could play it there. It has also been confirmed that it is a timed exclusive, so will likely come eventually to the PS4 too.

Reports from people who have played Ryse say it looks lovely, but the gameplay is pretty awful.

You don't need to play it to tell the "gameplay" is horrible. Press x, press a.....walk a bit....press x, press b....walk a bit.

evolutionqy7

wnolan1992 wrote: »

RE: the 1.5MB/s thing, I'm almost positive they only mentioned it in one of their statements saying something like "The average connection speed in the world is 1.5MB/s".

Open to correction, but I think that's where that figure came from.

I think I seen min 2mbps written on one of the game trailers

Vyse

Both the original Xbox and the 360 are great consoles. I got both on launch day and, with the exception of a few blips along the way, I've had a great experience with both (still have my working launch day Xbox, can't say the same for the 360). The original Xbox was a technical marvel at the time which was extremely developer focused and 100% geared towards gamers. I had a real hate thing going on with Sony at the time and, not being a Nintendo fan, this proved to be a great alternative which provided great and original titles.

The 360 was equally impressive. I still remember E3 2005. MS came out smelling of roses while Sony looked like a bunch of deceiving, arrogant c**ts. Their honest no bs approach was a breath of fresh air and once again MS provided an experience that couldn't be got elsewhere. It was all about the games and there was plenty of them. Their MTV reveal in May 2005, just before E3, was fully gamer focused.

However, in the last few years there seems to have been a shift in the MS camp, a shift I don't particularly like. The people who made the Xbox/ 360 great, the likes of Peter Moore, Ed Fries, J Allard and Robbie Bach, are long gone. Some of these people left of their own accord, some, I'm guessing, were forced out. In their stead we have the likes of Steve Ballmer, Don Mattricks and Phil Spencer. Their focus has been more entertainment based, something that has been extremely clear from the past couple of E3 presentations and the countless ads I'm bombarded with when I load up my 360. Their is a smugness, an arrogance about these people, a quality their predecessors did not portray. Their vision for Xbox, as a gamer, has turned me back to Sony.

I do hope the XBoxOne succeeds and that its gaming potential is realised. But, in the short term, this is one MS machine I won't be purchasing on launch:(

chopperbyrne

Felexicon wrote: »

I was very disappointed with the Xbox conference. I think they should have showed exactly what the console will be capable of in terms of being used as an entertainment system rather than just a games machine.

Pushtrak wrote: »

Not sure if serious.

Felexicon wrote: »

Yeah. For me a console is much more than just for games and I would have liked to see Microsoft pitching something towards me instead of their usual games based presentations

Pushtrak wrote: »

Did you not see the reaction the last time? And did you not appreciate the fact stuff they show will be US centric? They aren't going to show things that Ireland will be able to avail of specifically.

I too would like to have heard more on the entertainment side of things. It's a given that there will be lots of great games on the console, as there has been on each previous Xbox.

I bought the 360 as a games console, but as time went on it got more and more use as an entertainment device with Netflix, Sky Player and the NBA/NFL apps. Also got lots of use streaming things from my PC to watch in HD on a large TV.

They already have deals in place for the 360 with Sky, so I wanted to get an update on what their Xbox One deal would be like.

Burning Eclipse

Vyse wrote: »

Both the original Xbox and the 360 are great consoles. I got both on launch day and, with the exception of a few blips along the way, I've had a great experience with both (still have my working launch day Xbox, can't say the same for the 360). The original Xbox was a technical marvel at the time which was extremely developer focused and 100% geared towards gamers. I had a real hate thing going on with Sony at the time and, not being a Nintendo fan, this proved to be a great alternative which provided great and original titles.

The 360 was equally impressive. I still remember E3 2005. MS came out smelling of roses while Sony looked like a bunch of deceiving, arrogant c**ts. Their honest no bs approach was a breath of fresh air and once again MS provided an experience that couldn't be got elsewhere. It was all about the games and there was plenty of them. Their MTV reveal in May 2005, just before E3, was fully gamer focused.

However, in the last few years there seems to have been a shift in the MS camp, a shift I don't particularly like. The people who made the Xbox/ 360 great, the likes of Peter Moore, Ed Fries, J Allard and Robbie Bach, are long gone. Some of these people left of their own accord, some, I'm guessing, were forced out. In their stead we have the likes of Steve Ballmer, Don Mattricks and Phil Spencer. Their focus has been more entertainment based, something that has been extremely clear from the past couple of E3 presentations and the countless ads I'm bombarded with when I load up my 360. Their is a smugness, an arrogance about these people, a quality their predecessors did not portray. Their vision for Xbox, as a gamer, has turned me back to Sony.

I do hope the XBoxOne succeeds and that its gaming potential is realised. But, in the short term, this is one MS machine I won't be purchasing on launch:(

This post sums up my feelings on the Xbox One and Microsoft's decline perfectly. I was a Dreamcast guy (hence the Peter Moore love from me - nobody bother telling me he canned it). Never owned a PS1, so didn't have any great love for Sony. The Xbox 360 is the console I've spent most of my gaming time playing. I have played some of the best games of my life on this system, and continue to! I'd also freely admit that I used to use it for entertainment purposes (Netflix, DVD, downloaded movies).

That said, I really don't like Microsoft's focus for next gen. Their initial press event showed that they care about their domestic market, and not much else essentially. Do you live outside the USA? Don't like American Football? Tough **** buddy!!

Even though it doesn't affect me, the DRM thing bothers me immensely too. And it's fine for people to say "oh, I'll always be online, why would it bother me", the fact of the matter is it's a ****ty business practice, and it will affect a lot of people. The requirement for a broadband connection is an issue for a lot of people. Again, both my consoles are always online, but the mandate isn't a great one.

You know what sucks, I think for the first year Xbox One has a better games line-up. They showed some really interesting games at E3, and it sucks that I won't get to play them for a long long time. Because I'm buying a PS4, not an Xbox One at launch.

wayne040576

Vyse wrote: »

Both the original Xbox and the 360 are great consoles. I got both on launch day and, with the exception of a few blips along the way, I've had a great experience with both (still have my working launch day Xbox, can't say the same for the 360). The original Xbox was a technical marvel at the time which was extremely developer focused and 100% geared towards gamers. I had a real hate thing going on with Sony at the time and, not being a Nintendo fan, this proved to be a great alternative which provided great and original titles.

The 360 was equally impressive. I still remember E3 2005. MS came out smelling of roses while Sony looked like a bunch of deceiving, arrogant c**ts. Their honest no bs approach was a breath of fresh air and once again MS provided an experience that couldn't be got elsewhere. It was all about the games and there was plenty of them. Their MTV reveal in May 2005, just before E3, was fully gamer focused.

However, in the last few years there seems to have been a shift in the MS camp, a shift I don't particularly like. The people who made the Xbox/ 360 great, the likes of Peter Moore, Ed Fries, J Allard and Robbie Bach, are long gone. Some of these people left of their own accord, some, I'm guessing, were forced out. In their stead we have the likes of Steve Ballmer, Don Mattricks and Phil Spencer. Their focus has been more entertainment based, something that has been extremely clear from the past couple of E3 presentations and the countless ads I'm bombarded with when I load up my 360. Their is a smugness, an arrogance about these people, a quality their predecessors did not portray. Their vision for Xbox, as a gamer, has turned me back to Sony.

I do hope the XBoxOne succeeds and that its gaming potential is realised. But, in the short term, this is one MS machine I won't be purchasing on launch:(

To be fair, Mircrosoft's goal has always been (over the last 20 years) to get a box in the living room that handles everything. It was one of Bill Gates' visions for the company. And I think they were slowly using xbox to achieve this.

Dyr

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Also got lots of use streaming things from my PC to watch in HD on a large TV.

Does that feature still suck balls?

chopperbyrne

I've never had an issue with it, so no.

ShiverinEskimo

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Also got lots of use streaming things from my PC to watch in HD on a large TV.

I would love if the Xbox was good at doing this but it simply isn't. It doesn't play mkvs and avis with surround sound are hard to come by. It is far from an ideal solution for HD video.

If the Xbox One really embraces this feature and supports MKVs and other HD containers then it will be worth at least some of the hassle.

Trouble is MS don't like MKVs because they want the world to use their containers.

Fingleberries

Just to jump back to games for a little bit, there's an interesting article about the Kinect integration into Dead Rising 3 (in that the Zombies may be able to hear you and start homing in on you - so if you jump to loudly, it may tip them off to where you are ... or you can also use it to distract them).

Another article seems to give an example

Gizmodo wrote:

Microsoft demoed a FPS game that took advantage of Kinect in a completely natural game-playing way. Your hands are on the controller. Your thumbs are on the analogue sticks. Your fingers are on the triggers. Oh crap, a giant rocket is coming right at you on your screen. You move your thumbs accordingly; you subconsciously lean to the side with it, the rocket passes by. Phew. You’re okay. You didn’t even realise it but you just controlled a game with Kinect and you didn’t die. Link

This kind of thinking could be really good, and developers can bake them into a game because they know the Kinect will be there. I know everyone has their tin-foil hat on about Kinect, but this sort of thing in games (as opposed to flailing around wildly) could really add a subtle layer of depth to games that improves the immersion in the game environment.

Dyr

chopperbyrne wrote: »

I've never had an issue with it, so no.

Lack of support for common file types from what I remember and trying to scan along the timeline to a particular time with the shoulder triggers just mean it flies through the video at about 10 minutes per nanosecond.

Underpaid Mike

People are not fans of the kinect, hell I think its completely rubbish but it may drive innovation on the X1 because everyone has it that has the console and they have to have it plugged in. We might see some cool games as a result. The idea that if someone makes a noise in the room a zombie hoard will attack you is very different so who knows where a survival horror game like res evil could take the concept.

Would have helped a whole hell of a lot if indie game developers were allowed self publish as they were the obvious drivers of new ideas like this.

Pushtrak

chopperbyrne wrote: »

They already have deals in place for the 360 with Sky, so I wanted to get an update on what their Xbox One deal would be like.

E3 wasn't for that stuff. People have no more claim for Sky info than people from other countries had for their own TV service. Should MS have talked about all countries and permutations of TV crap? Of course not. They will have something to talk about them for people interested in such stuff to find out about it. E3 is about games.

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

People are not fans of the kinect, hell I think its completely rubbish but it may drive innovation on the X1 because everyone has it that has the console and they have to have it plugged in.

I got to try Mass Effect 3 voice commands recently, and it was pretty good.

FlyingIrishMan

http://www.digitalspy.ie/gaming/news/a487624/xbox-one-sky-has-no-plans-to-sell-console-as-part-of-subscription.html

That said, they could have some sort of deal in place to have it working on the X1.

Underpaid Mike

Interesting contrarian post on Reddit about the E3 conference.
I dont agree with him on all of it but I do think the presentation rather than the actual content of the capabilities of the new console are the issue.
I for one think being able to play my xbox games on any xbox in the world by simply signing into xbox live is amazing. Similiarly to be able to share my games with 10 friends who i can pretend are family is a huge perk.
It does come with substantial downside which im still trying to weigh up

I'll admit, when I watched the E3 conferences I thought PS4 blew Xbox out of the water. Xbox got a lot of hate coming in due to the fact that they unveiled it as a set-top box first, and gaming device second, not to mention the confusion regarding its licensing policy. They also revealed it 3 weeks early, giving Sony time to prepare a targeted attack and steal the show.
Let's pretend Microsoft didn't have sh1t marketing for a second. Let's say Xbox One is about to be unveiled for the first time right now. Imagine E3 playing out like this:

• Talk about the success of 360 and show off its upcoming games.
• Unveil the new Xbox without revealing its name just yet. Show off the new controller and its acclaimed layout, micro-USB port (for charging, PC compatibility, and optional add-ons like chat keyboard), flush battery, analog sticks with gripped edges, and triggers that rumble individually.
• Game time. Show off all the next-gen game trailers and gameplay demos, leaving out the BS commentary (looking at you, Call of Duty). Briefly demo the sidebar chat and spectator modes.
• With the new Xbox, games can be installed via traditional disc or digital download. All games will be tied to your Xbox Live account and available to play on ANY Xbox you sign into! In addition, you can share access to your game library with up to 10 "family members", even if they live a thousand miles away. Any one of your family members can be playing a game from your shared library at a given time. And because your game library is installed locally and authenticated online, the days of fumbling with discs are over! All your games are a click or voice command away.
• Over the last 8 years, the 360 has evolved to offer more than just games. For millions, it's become their go-to media center. Half of all Netflix users, for instance, are accessing it through their gaming console. Xbox now hooks up to your set top box to deliver live TV, with an enhanced program guide that responds to voice commands.
• The Kinect set a world record as the fastest selling consumer electronics device in history. The new Xbox will ship with Kinect 2.0, which includes a 1080p camera and active IR sensor that can detect facial expressions, joint movements, and even heart rates from microfluctuations in the color of the skin. With Kinect, you can seamlessly transition between your games, TV, Netflix, Skype video chat, and many others from a single device.
• We've made the new Xbox the first truly all-in-ONE entertainment device. So we're calling it... Xbox One. Ships for $499 in November.
• Close with the Halo 5 teaser.

Xbox One is doing for consoles what Steam did for PCs. Games can now be purchased and downloaded immediately. Instead of digging out a physical disc every time to authenticate, you just need an internet connection. Does this alienate some people? Sure, but it's for the benefit of those who ARE connected. And by cutting out the secondary market, I expect to see prices fall just as they do on PC.
Looking at it this way, I expect the One to do quite well despite the higher price.

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1g90d7/heres_why_xbox_one_is_better_than_you_may_think/

FlyingIrishMan

And by cutting out the secondary market, I expect to see prices fall just as they do on PC.

What I got from that is, "by selling less consoles, we'll be able to set game prices cheaper".
Perhaps they will be able to make games cheaper from the profits they make with no/limited used games sales, but it won't be because they "cut out a secondary market".

markad1

I was in Smyths toys earlier and was talking with one of the lads and asked him had they many xbox one preorders, he said they had some but they switched to PS.
He said they had no preorders for xbox one.
I always pre-ordered and had the new xbox on launch day..... afraid I will not be ordering I'll stick with my 360

Underpaid Mike

>The thing is we suck at telling the story. The whole point of the DRM switch from disc based to cloud based is to kill disc swapping, scratched discs, bringing discs to friends house, trade-ins for **** value with nothign going back to developers, and high game costs. If you want games cheaper then 59.99, you have to limit used games somehow. Steam's model requires a limited used game model.

>The thing is, the DRM is really really similar to steam... You can login anywhere and play your games, anyone in your house can play with the family xbox. The only diff is steam you have to sign in before playing, and Xbox does it automatically at night for you (once per 24 hours)

>It's a long tail strategy, just like steam. Steam had it's growing pains at the beginning with all it's drm **** as well. [...] For digital downloads steam had no real competition at the time, they were competing against boxed sales. At the time people were pretty irate about steam, (on 4chan too...) It was only once they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted ****.

>Think about it, on steam you get a game for the true cost of the game, 5$-30$. On a console you have to pay for that PLUS any additional licenses for when you sell / trade / borrow / etc. If the developer / publisher can't get it on additional licenses (like steam), then they charge the first person more. [...] If we say "Hey publishers, you limit game to 39.99, we ensure every license transfer you get 10$, gamestop gets 20$" that is a decent model... Microsoft gets a license fee on first and subsequent game purchases, compared to just first now? That's a revenue increase.

>Competition is the best man, it helps drive both to new heights. See technology from the Cold War. If we had no USSR, we'd be way worse off today. TLDR: Bring it on Steam

2/4

>Yeah we passed that around the office at Xbox. Most of us were like "Well played Sony, Well played". That being said they are just riding the hype train of ZOMG THEY ARE TRYING TO **** US FOR NO REASON. Without actually thinking about how convienent it would be for the majority of the time to not find that disc your brother didn't put back... [...] just simpleminded people not seeing the bigger picture. Some PS4 viral team made them all "U TOOK R DISCS" and they hiveminded.

>Everyone and their mother complains about how gamestop ****s them on their trade ins, getting 5$ for their used games. We come in trying to find a way to take money out of gamestop, and put some in developers and get you possibly cheaper games and everyone bitches at MS. Well, if you want the @#$@ing from Gamestop, go play PS4.

>The goal is to move to digital downloads, but Gamestop, Walmart, Target, Amazon are KIND OF ****ING ENTRENCHED in the industry. They have a lot of power, and the shift has to be gradual. Long term goal is steam for consoles. [...] If you always want to stay with what you have, then keep current consoles, or a PS4. We're TRYING to move the industry forwards towards digital distribution... it'sa bumpy road

>Publishers have enourmous power. Microsoft is trying to balance between consumer delight, and publisher wishes. If we cave to far in either direction you have a non-starting product. WiiU goes too far to consumer, you have no 3rd party support to shake a stick at. PS4 is status-quo. XB1 is trying to push some things, at the expense of others. We have a vision, we'll see if it works in the coming years

>Living room transformation. We want to own the living room. Every living room TV with an XBox on input one. It's the thing that gives the signal to your TV, everything is secondary. The future, where games, TV, internet telephony, all that **** happens magically on some huge ass screen with hand / voice gestures... That's our goal.


3/4

>Google TV + PS4 + Minority report level gestures, that combined with a sick second screen experience (which is really hot for TV, I know I know.. tv tv tv tv tv... but it's ****ing sick when you have it). Games will be the same, there are more exclusives to MS then PS atm, and Kinect 2 makes Kinect 1 look like a childs toy.

>By default it's on, listening for "Xbox On". You can turn it off tho, and turn the console like OFF off. OFF off is required for Germany / other countries that require it (no vampire appliances) [...] It has to be plugged in for the console to post. You can turn off everything it does from the settings. Think of it like airplane mode for the iPhone. You can't just unplug the cellular radio, but you can turn it off.

>Instead of 10mins, is 24hrs for your console, and 1 or 2 at a friends house. Really the majority of people have a speck of internet at least once a day. And if you don't. Don't buy an Xbox 1. Just like if you didn't have a broadband connection don't get Live, and if you don't have an HDTV the 360 isn't that great for you either. New tech, new req. This allows us to do cool **** when we can assume things like you have a kinect, you have internet, etc.

>Current plan is basically you're ****ed after 24 hours. Yeah... I know. Kind of sucks. I believe they will probably revist the time period and / or find a diff way to "call in" to ensure you haven't sold your license to gamestop or something... but there is no plan YET. I'm hoping the change it, but I don't work on that so I don't have much influence there /sigh

>If the power goes out you ain't playing ****. I'm assuming you mean the internet goes out but you have power for TV and Xbox. Yes, You're ****ed for single player games. Again, that's the PoR (Plan of record), but I expect it to change after the e3 cluster****

>What fee? There is no fee to play your games at your friends house. Never has, never will. Even x360 digital downloads could do that.


4/4

>The cloud capabilities is the **** they like the most. We basically made a huge cloud compute **** and made it free. What people are doing with it is kind of cool. THe original intention was to get all the Multiplayer servers not requiring 3rd party costs (Like EA shutting down game servers to cut costs), as well as taking all the games that servers hosted by the clients (Halo, etc), and have all that compute done in the cloud allowing more CPU cycles for gameplay. That will really expand what developers can do. Anything that doesn't need per frame calculation and can handle 100ms delays can be shifted to the cloud. That's huge.

>SmartGlass + IE is going to be pretty freaking sweet. 1 finger cursor, 2 finger direct manip. Basically if you think of a laptop trackpad where your phone/ slate is the trackpad and the monitor is your TV... it's that. The tech is there, just needs to be applied. There is some really cool **** going on with Petra + controllers that pairs people with controllers. So if person with controller two trades controlers with controller 1, their profiles magically switch. It's sick. What does this matter? Now if you lean left/right it knows which person is leaning, even if 4 people are all int he same room. It's awesome.

>New service using Azure for cloud compute. Allows developers to not use clients for hosting multiplayer servers, or other tasks that do not require per frame calcuations. It's pretty sweet.

>Honestly, if you care about anything other then pure games AT ALL. Xbox 1 > PS4. If all you do is play games, and nothing else, PS4.

This was all from the Microsoft engineer that was on /b/ last night.

>It's not worth my time to prove it, or risk my Job. I work in Studio A, 40th ave in Redmond, Wa. The thai place in the studio cafeteria has double punch wednesdays. Go ahead and call them and verify if you want.

http://pastebin.com/uCmdh9jB

Also from a post on reddit, anyone that doesnt use reddit really should check it out, ive just gotten into it over the last month. Its simply brilliant

FlyingIrishMan

Was that from an official Microsoft exec or just someone on reddit?
Because if that was from an official microsoft exec it was pretty insulting towards anyone who doesn't support their console.

LookingFor

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

Interesting contrarian post on Reddit about the E3 conference.
I dont agree with him on all of it but I do think the presentation rather than the actual content of the capabilities of the new console are the issue.
I for one think being able to play my xbox games on any xbox in the world by simply signing into xbox live is amazing. Similiarly to be able to share my games with 10 friends who i can pretend are family is a huge perk.
It does come with substantial downside which im still trying to weigh up



http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1g90d7/heres_why_xbox_one_is_better_than_you_may_think/

Xbox One is doing for consoles what Steam did for PCs. Games can now be purchased and downloaded immediately.

That doesn't really make any sense. Day one digital games are nothing new and will be standard on both next-gen consoles. It doesn't require all the policy decisions MS has taken.

I'm also wary of the utility of the game sharing with 10 people thing - only one other person can play at a time, and I think there's going to be currently unannounced restrictions on who you can link with and how many sharers one account can link to. That kind of sharing on digital is also not really new. You were able to do that on other consoles before (i.e. on PS3 with up to 5 others - though that example has since tightened up how many you can share with, I think it's now one or two others, but on the other hand you can all be playing simultaneously)

Stone Deaf 4evr

LookingFor wrote: »

That doesn't really make any sense. Day one digital games are nothing new and will be standard on both next-gen consoles. It doesn't require all the policy decisions MS has taken.

I'm also wary of the utility of the game sharing with 10 people thing - only one other person can play at a time, and I think there's going to be currently unannounced restrictions on who you can link with and how many sharers one account can link to. That kind of sharing on digital is also not really new. You were able to do that on other consoles before (i.e. on PS3 with up to 5 others - though that example has since tightened up how many you can share with, I think it's now one or two others, but on the other hand you can all be playing simultaneously)

no different to taking the disc out of your current 360 and handing it to a family member to play on their own machine in a different room.

Underpaid Mike

LookingFor wrote: »

That doesn't really make any sense. Day one digital games are nothing new and will be standard on both next-gen consoles. It doesn't require all the policy decisions MS has taken.

How so i dont really follow? To make a cloud hosted game that you can play from a remote machine im not sure its possible without requiring an always on connection? It will be the same as gaikai requiring an always on connection on PS4 or new iRadio requiring 3g connection ?

I'm also wary of the utility of the game sharing with 10 people thing - only one other person can play at a time, and I think there's going to be currently unannounced restrictions on who you can link with and how many sharers one account can link to. That kind of sharing on digital is also not really new. You were able to do that on other consoles before (i.e. on PS3 with up to 5 others - though that example has since tightened up how many you can share with, I think it's now one or two others, but on the other hand you can all be playing simultaneously)

Im also wary hence I wont be buying anything at launch. Its not as clear cut however which console I will be buying in 12 months as it seems to be for others however. I think a proper implementation of game sharing and the capabilities which cloud processing could lead to might make the x1 a better long term bet. Then again it could be an underpowered console which talked a great game but was crippled with poorly though out DRM and little or no cloud computing.

FlyingIrishMan

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

How so i dont really follow? To make a cloud hosted game that you can play from a remote machine im not sure its possible without requiring an always on connection? It will be the same as gaikai requiring an always on connection on PS4 or new iRadio requiring 3g connection ?

Digital games. As in full retail games, will be available to download day 1 on both PS4 and X1.
Gaikai streaming will definitely require to be always connected whilst playing those games.

evolutionqy7

ShiverinEskimo wrote: »

I would love if the Xbox was good at doing this but it simply isn't. It doesn't play mkvs and avis with surround sound are hard to come by. It is far from an ideal solution for HD video.

If the Xbox One really embraces this feature and supports MKVs and other HD containers then it will be worth at least some of the hassle.

Trouble is MS don't like MKVs because they want the world to use their containers.

You mean so you could watch movies you downloaded from pirate bay?

Underpaid Mike

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Digital games. As in full retail games, will be available to download day 1 on both PS4 and X1.
Gaikai streaming will definitely require to be always connected whilst playing those games.

Not just digital games, but being able to play your games from any xbox by simply signing into xbox live and playing them with no cds etc.
For me thats a huge deal

FlyingIrishMan

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

Not just digital games, but being able to play your games from any xbox by simply signing into xbox live and playing them with no cds etc.
For me thats a huge deal

A game is going to be around 20GB at least, probably a lot more with these new graphics.
The internet infrastructure isn't good enough in Ireland and in most countries to support a system like that. Physical games are still the quickest, and easiest way to play a game at a friends house.
On my connection, 20GB would take me about 1-2 days to download.

Underpaid Mike

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

A game is going to be around 20GB at least, probably a lot more with these new graphics.
The internet infrastructure isn't good enough in Ireland and in most countries to support a system like that. Physical games are still the quickest, and easiest way to play a game at a friends house.
On my connection, 20GB would take me about 1-2 days to download.

20GB would take you 2 days to download? remind me not to come to your house to play any new xbox games so

ShiverinEskimo

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

You mean so you could watch movies you downloaded from pirate bay?

Piratebay? Pfft. Soooooooo 3 years ago.

FlyingIrishMan

Underpaid Mike wrote: »

20GB would take you 2 days to download? remind me not to come to your house to play any new xbox games so

Thats exactly my point, I'm not the only one with a slow connection.
Even on an fast connection 20GB+ will take 2-3 hours. Do you really want to sit there for that length waiting to play your game that should be able to work just by popping in the disc?

Uncharted 3 on the PS Store is 43GB, and whilst that game has amazing graphics the games are going to be bigger in size next gen with even better graphics.