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Xbox One - General Discussion (NO DISCUSSION REGARDING PS4 - MOD WARNING Post 6903)
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Oops, I thought you were directly replying about the second person downloading to the HDD message but anyway....
I don't really think it's necessary. I agree there needs to be a check but the check doesn't need to be a 24hr check. The 24hr check is a little too restrictive imo.
It could just as easily check that the game license was still yours every time you go online instead of requiring it every 24hrs. I admit there's some dangers (minor) there. Someone could disconnect there X1 and not connect again, or until they were finished with the game. This is very limiting as you'll have no online features, you'll not be able to purchase new games as they will not be able to authenticate online, etc.
The amount of people that would stay disconnected for very long would be minuscule and would probably have been an acceptable loss compared to the PR hurt they have gotten.
Well its restrictive if you have no permanent internet connection. Otherwise the X1 does the check automatically every 24 hours at night. X1 has WiFi built in, so its not like that you'll have to manually do the check every 24 hours. It will go into standby mode, do the check, check for any updates for games, act accordingly and go back off.
And they did explain it that it only uses a couple of kb's for a check so likes of hotel WiFi or even a quick tether of your phone can do the trick.
I don't know of one person that doesn't have WiFi at home, never seen a student without WiFi either. Most of the houses you move into during college years already has internet in it (how would they access Wikipedia without it?
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As I said their presentation was just all over the place, its a bit disappointing now cause that costs them thousands of Xbox fans as a majority made their mind to switch already.0 -
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evolutionqy7 wrote: »Well its restrictive if you have no permanent internet connection. Otherwise the X1 does the check automatically every 24 hours at night. X1 has WiFi built in, so its not like that you'll have to manually do the check every 24 hours. It will go into standby mode, do the check, check for any updates for games, act accordingly and go back off.
And they did explain it that it only uses a couple of kb's for a check so likes of hotel WiFi or even a quick tether of your phone can do the trick.
I don't know of one person that doesn't have WiFi at home, never seen a student without WiFi either. Most of the houses you move into during college years already has internet in it (how would they access Wikipedia without it? )
I will have a permanent internet connection most of the time yes, I'll probably be without an internet connection for a month when I move into a new house next year which I admit I could tether through my phone.... That will be a pita as I just want to turn the console on and play but yes I could do it.
College networks are usually controlled networks so you may not be able to use the X1 within them, I know my 360 didn't work.... well it didn't work until we found a way around it.
I will probably buy the console, actually, of course I'll buy the console. It's an XBox, I'd be kidding myself if I pretended otherwise but less fanboyish people will probably get the PS4, for me the PS4 looks a better day 1 console than the X1 for the money and I'm betting 2 years into the gen the X1 will have utilized the kinnect and the cloud computing to get a lot better.0 -
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This may seem a bit silly, but can they not make it a live transfer, like an ATM. The game won't work on the friends console until the licence for the game is transferred. Like a money transaction.....or is this to simple?
ATM's have an internet connection
You need a connection of some sort to make a transaction. I presume each game has a licence coded into the disc, the 24 hour check, checks to see has that licence been moved, sold, traded. 0 -
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I've posted about this lots of times, I'm sure there are many who will say jeez, again about my posting on it again, but anyway... Last year, sure I had internet, good internet in student accommodation. It didn't allow one to connect their consoles online though. It was a place with no WEP/WPA/WPA2 or anything. You couldn't access the router.evolutionqy7 wrote: »I don't know of one person that doesn't have WiFi at home, never seen a student without WiFi either. Most of the houses you move into during college years already has internet in it (how would they access Wikipedia without it? )
I was constantly getting MTU error. That's related to bandwidth. The suggested fix was that it had too many people on the connection and get devices off that connection. Yeah, like that was going to happen. This was just one of many such accommodation places and I don't think such an approach is restricted to those I knew about, or accom for that Uni in particular.
Sure, it means I'll have to be smarter about where I go to live. I moved city and just went where seemed good as I was down for the day, pretty much. I now know that getting a console online isn't a foregone conclusion for somewhere.
There are going to be many people moving in to such places next year, and over the following years. They'll all have to rely on the phone method for authentication and for that they'll need a phone capable of such.
That's what we do now. I haven't suddenly found what we now do to be such a pain.evolutionqy7 wrote: »Yeah that part still puzzles me, why couldn't they include that as an option, but then again your not going to insert every disc for every game you own to certify that you haven't sold them.0 -
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I've posted about this lots of times, I'm sure there are many who will say jeez, again about my posting on it again, but anyway... Last year, sure I had internet, good internet in student accommodation. It didn't allow one to connect their consoles online though. It was a place with no WEP/WPA/WPA2 or anything. You couldn't access the router.
I was constantly getting MTU error. That's related to bandwidth. The suggested fix was that it had too many people on the connection and get devices off that connection. Yeah, like that was going to happen. This was just one of many such accommodation places and I don't think such an approach is restricted to those I knew about, or accom for that Uni in particular.
Sure, it means I'll have to be smarter about where I go to live. I moved city and just went where seemed good as I was down for the day, pretty much. I now know that getting a console online isn't a foregone conclusion for somewhere.
There are going to be many people moving in to such places next year, and over the following years. They'll all have to rely on the phone method for authentication and for that they'll need a phone capable of such.
That's what we do now. I haven't suddenly found what we now do to be such a pain.
Fair point, but you can't deny the convenience of it. Over the past couple of Xbox sales I've built up a library of digital games which don't require a disc. Its dead easy to switch from one game to another without moving. Plus no worries of discs being scratched or lost or broken.
I know some student places have fairly crappy internet. In my own experience I was stuck with UPC for 4 years which did a great job, but its not like students are unfamiliar with the concept of tethering, most 100 euro smart phones have that feature too and in fairness majority of students are well equipped with a decent smartphone. 0 -
It doesn't for first party games, presumably as Sony are willing to accept the opportunity cost for the sake of getting the system out there, but after the best part of 10 years working for a US tech company I can assure you the 3rd party publishers will not allow half their market to trade on less favourable terms than the other half. It may be DRM/trade in restrictions, higher price or timed exclusives in favour of the XB1 (or something else), there will be something.
If the x1 market is nonexistent then they'll have no problem working with sonys "less favourable" terms 0 -
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