And the US DHS is purchasing 12.6 Million for what?

CollardGreens

I am one of many in the States that is wondering what our government is actually up too by purchasing so much ammo?! Here is a small portion of what the article read:

"An approximation of how many rounds of ammunition the DHS has now secured over the last 10 months stands at around 1.625 billion. In March 2012, ATK announced that they had agreed to provide the DHS with a maximum of 450 million bullets over four years, a story that prompted questions about why the feds were buying ammunition in such large quantities. In September last year, the federal agency purchased a further 200 million bullets.

To put that in perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq, US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month. Extrapolating the figures, the DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last 10 months to wage a full scale war for almost 30 years.

Such massive quantities of ammo purchases have stoked fears that the agency is preparing for some kind of domestic unrest."

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

What exactly is the US government expected to do with this ammo? Just whom is it for? I personally am not comfortable with this information. This is exactly why so many in the general public are buying guns and ammo, we don't know who we need to protect ourselves from, outsiders or our own government?! I see some like Nutella (and I like Nutella) and others questioning other countries (i.e. Iran) that may go against us, and then wondering why America does not get involved in helping countries at war. Right now, the people of America really don't know who we are at war with exactly ~ some is obvious, and some isn't. We got our own problems without having to rescue other parts of the world. If we are not 100% on the same path with each other here in the States than we are no good to help others.

Sry the link came from inforwars, I think that dude is rather off the deep end but there are other links to confirm what it is saying.

Gatling

I read somewhere that the excuse for purchasing so much brass and lead was because the DHS was responsible for fire arms training the majority of state LEO's and federal officials but still dosent account for the numbers being purchased add the push to have every law enforcement agencies to purchase the equivalent of MRAPs to protect officers dealing with hostage and firearms a violence, its something to watch for the future

asherbassad

It should be fairly clear by now why any military hardware is purchased. It's a massive boondoggle. You have BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars going into the tax coffers every year. As far as the elite are concerned every penny of that is theirs. Screw spending any of it that would actually benefit the taxpayer in anyway, shape or form. The object is to take as much from the taxpayer as possible and give nothing in return.

So the more humvees that are blown to bits in Afghanistan and Iraq, the better. More will have to be built by Humvee Corporation putting lots of money into the shareholders' pockets and all paid for by the taxpayer. Whatever ever you do, don't win any of these wars, just keep them going. Have private companies charge the Pentagon to launder a GI's pillow case at $10 a pop and the Pentagon just hands the bill to the taxpayer. Tell the public that certain gadgets are needed at airports "to keep them safe" then charge the taxpayer for these useless gadgets and give all the money to the manufacturer/shareholders of Acme Gadget Corporation.

Have Acme Bullet Corporation manufacture billions of bullets, sell them to DHS who buys them with taxpayer money. More money for corporations/shareholders.
Nevermind that the bullets will just sit in crates stacked up to the rafters. Doesn't matter, it's just another conduit for shifting taxes to private corporations.
You want a road fixed, or a bridge repaired, or a bit of health coverage or maybe some disaster relief funding after a hurricane? Pay for it yourself!

G Power

CollardGreens wrote: »

I am one of many in the States that is wondering what our government is actually up too by purchasing so much ammo?! Here is a small portion of what the article read:

"An approximation of how many rounds of ammunition the DHS has now secured over the last 10 months stands at around 1.625 billion. In March 2012, ATK announced that they had agreed to provide the DHS with a maximum of 450 million bullets over four years, a story that prompted questions about why the feds were buying ammunition in such large quantities. In September last year, the federal agency purchased a further 200 million bullets.

To put that in perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq, US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month. Extrapolating the figures, the DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last 10 months to wage a full scale war for almost 30 years.

Such massive quantities of ammo purchases have stoked fears that the agency is preparing for some kind of domestic unrest."

http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

What exactly is the US government expected to do with this ammo? Just whom is it for? I personally am not comfortable with this information. This is exactly why so many in the general public are buying guns and ammo, we don't know who we need to protect ourselves from, outsiders or our own government?! I see some like Nutella (and I like Nutella) and others questioning other countries (i.e. Iran) that may go against us, and then wondering why America does not get involved in helping countries at war. Right now, the people of America really don't know who we are at war with exactly ~ some is obvious, and some isn't. We got our own problems without having to rescue other parts of the world. If we are not 100% on the same path with each other here in the States than we are no good to help others.

Sry the link came from inforwars, I think that dude is rather off the deep end but there are other links to confirm what it is saying.

have you a link to the ammunition piece you've quoted??

it really is shocking what's going on over in the US and then what they're getting up to worldwide with all the cables released by wikileaks and other damning reports, we've seen that irish governments have been completely and utterly corrupted by them, we've all sat back recently as we get treated to all the war porn and evidence of corruption we can eat, it's got us so scared stiff that noboody wants to admit we are racing towards a world war all right, the people Vs governments cos they're the ones who have turned the whole planet upside down and they'll defend their faux riches to the death if we rise up.

anyone that think this is not the way things are going is off their flipping head. those at the top are repeatedly showing themselves to be dodgy individuals and most close to them are too. how much evidence do we need to be presented with before people realise we have only one option but to fight back before it's too late.

asherbassad wrote: »

It should be fairly clear by now why any military hardware is purchased. It's a massive boondoggle. You have BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars going into the tax coffers every year. As far as the elite are concerned every penny of that is theirs. Screw spending any of it that would actually benefit the taxpayer in anyway, shape or form. The object is to take as much from the taxpayer as possible and give nothing in return.

So the more humvees that are blown to bits in Afghanistan and Iraq, the better. More will have to be built by Humvee Corporation putting lots of money into the shareholders' pockets and all paid for by the taxpayer. Whatever ever you do, don't win any of these wars, just keep them going. Have private companies charge the Pentagon to launder a GI's pillow case at $10 a pop and the Pentagon just hands the bill to the taxpayer. Tell the public that certain gadgets are needed at airports "to keep them safe" then charge the taxpayer for these useless gadgets and give all the money to the manufacturer/shareholders of Acme Gadget Corporation.

Have Acme Bullet Corporation manufacture billions of bullets, sell them to DHS who buys them with taxpayer money. More money for corporations/shareholders.
Nevermind that the bullets will just sit in crates stacked up to the rafters. Doesn't matter, it's just another conduit for shifting taxes to private corporations.
You want a road fixed, or a bridge repaired, or a bit of health coverage or maybe some disaster relief funding after a hurricane? Pay for it yourself!

this wouldn't be so scary if this wasn't actually true :eek::eek:

Manic Moran

We were looking through the STRAC (The document which states authorised allocations of ammunition) for weapons qualification yesterday as it happens. Each soldier is authorised, apparently, about 260 rounds of 5.56mm for their qualification. It includes zero, practice, day, night, CBRNE.

With 1.1 million soldiers, not counting practice and operational ammo, for the Army is somewhere over a quarter-billion rounds a year just for qualification: Everyone basically shoots a full combat load, unlike in Iraq where people tend to only shoot when they have something to shoot at.

I can believe the numbers.

Gatling

Does DHS supply or train the army I know there training LEO and Federal agents surely they wouldn't use the same amount of ammo stated purchased

G Power

so people are still willing to give the crazies running the world into the ground the benefit of the doubt in spite of all the evidence that would frighten even the stupidest of people

ffs!! :eek::eek::eek::eek:

CollardGreens

so people are still willing to give the crazies running the world into the ground the benefit of the doubt in spite of all the evidence that would frighten even the stupidest of people

ffs!!

Yes, the ppl are giving in because of their "Sana Clause" giving them free phones, money and goods for sitting on their behinds and having more babies for the gov to train and the taxpayers to raise, at least the few that are working. They are letting the crazies run the States for the free stuff, even the illegals get free stuff hence they also vote for the crazies ~ and yes, somehow the illegals are able to vote.

Our military is being cut, probably to give the money to the ppl that are getting the free stuff. When the lazy ppl need protection, they can call for it on their free phone.....but nobody will be there for them, because of the cuts in our protection. We are on our way at a fast pace to being sitting ducks.

The link you requested earlier is in the OP under the article I got the info from.

Jonny7

It's ammunition for conspiracy theories.