Aer Lingus Fleet Discusion

Tenger · 18-09-2013 9:44pm

Strumms wrote: »

just a thought about the middle to long term future of the EI short haul-medium haul fleet ie. the 319/320/321s.......... I wonder will EI maybe go for a cabin refit at any point ? They are reasonable young aircraft for the most part, certainly no rumours re: an order of replacements. Anyone in the know or have an opinion ?

In one of the financial results shows over the last 6-12 months an EI exec indicated that they were examining both the B737MAX and the A320NEO range in relation to their future shorthaul fleet renewal. Haven't read any other info online since then. I think this was a very generic comment from the exec, and personally I think the reference to B737MAX is just a ploy to keep the door open. EI would need a very good deal to switch back to Boeing for short haul, approx 10 years after becoming an exclusive Airbus operator. The last set of results (July?) didn't make any reference to s/h fleet renewal to the best of my knowledge.

Comhrá · 19-09-2013 9:58am

.....they were examining both the B737MAX and the A320NEO...

As an aviation lover of many years and especially the Irish airline scene, I wouldn't be the only sentimentalist who would love to see Aer Lingus B737s back in the air at Dub. Snn. and Cork, and winging across Europe after all these years

merisi · 19-09-2013 10:28am

tippman1 wrote: »

As an aviation lover of many years and especially the Irish airline scene, I wouldn't be the only sentimentalist who would love to see Aer Lingus B737s back in the air at Dub. Snn. and Cork, and winging across Europe after all these years

It's interesting that the 737 MAX9 will be about half a metre longer than a 720 and so would probably look great in the retro scheme. Alas, it won't happen...

Zonda999 · 17-11-2013 6:53pm

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dubai-etihad-orders-up-to-117-airbuses-393149/

Middle Eastern carrier Etihad Airways is ordering 40 A350-900s and 10 -1000s, plus 36 A320neo-family twinjets.

The airline is taking the regional version of the A350, and is also taking a single additional A330-200 freighter.

Etihad says the single-aisle deal includes 26 A321neos and 10 A320neos. The A321neos will be fitted with CFM International Leap-1A powerplants.

All A350s are available only with the Rolls-Royce Trent XWB engine.

Etihad chief James Hogan says the aircraft will start arriving in 2018. The deal also includes options on another 30 aircraft, taking the total potentially to 117 jets.

Hogan says the structure of the order allows the carrier to move aircraft between its equity alliance partners.

Etihad values the agreement at $26.9 billion.

Seeing as Etihad currently operates 20 A320, no A321's and yet has 33 A321 now on order (7 A321 and 26 A321neo), I wonder will some of those A321neo end up at Aer Lingus at some stage. Given the numbers already mentioned there I wouldn;t be surprised if they did

Locker10a · 17-11-2013 6:59pm

Zonda999 wrote: »

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dubai-etihad-orders-up-to-117-airbuses-393149/

Seeing as Etihad currently operates 20 A320, no A321's and yet has 33 A321 now on order (7 A321 and 26 A321neo), I wonder will some of those A321neo end up at Aer Lingus at some stage. Given the numbers already mentioned there I wouldn;t be surprised if they did

Its possible but then again they may have their own plans for the A321NEO as it could open up new opportunities for EY itself and not just EI !
We will just have to wait and see! If EI were getting some of the planes why would they not announce it??

zone 1 · 19-11-2013 7:52pm

someone @ EI might go on stirke

LoonyLovegood · 19-11-2013 7:55pm

Just with this thread being revived, is there any date yet for the 757s to be put into use?

Tenger · 19-11-2013 7:55pm

Locker10a wrote: »

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We will just have to wait and see! If EI were getting some of the planes why would they not announce it??

This is very early days yet on the deal. EY obviously want this capacity in the future but it remains to be seen how it is distributed amongst their partners. Perhaps they have a future partner in mind that hasn't even been mentioned yet. (this last is pure speculation on my part)

CTYIgirl wrote: »

Just with this thread being revived, is there any date yet for the 757s to be put into use?

Jan 2014. First aircraft is already in SNN (not in service or in EI hands yet, Finnair lease was up)

Razor44 · 19-11-2013 7:57pm

CTYIgirl wrote: »

Just with this thread being revived, is there any date yet for the 757s to be put into use?

i think they arrive around jan 2nd?

Locker10a · 19-11-2013 9:02pm

Tenger wrote: »

Jan 2014. First aircraft is already in SNN (not in service or in EI hands yet, Finnair lease was up)

Will entrance into service be delayed in light of the negotiation with crew and questions over the SNN base ?

Razor44 wrote: »

i think they arrive around jan 2nd?

If they are arriving that late and due to enter service on time I assume they will arrive kitted out and fully painted to Aer Lingus livery.

zone 1 · 19-11-2013 9:04pm

looking forward to seeing them in EI colours. where does this free up A330s now and for what new routes .will wesjet be game changer in TA trips across the pond.

Razor44 · 19-11-2013 9:11pm

Locker10a wrote: »

If they are arriving that late and due to enter service on time I assume they will arrive kitted out and fully painted to Aer Lingus livery.

sorry i ment in service, i thought i read that date in another thread, could be wrong

calibratedtool · 19-11-2013 9:34pm

Razor44 wrote: »

sorry i ment in service, i thought i read that date in another thread, could be wrong

Delivery to EI is 01/01. EIS somewhere mid to late January

Tenger · 19-11-2013 10:00pm

zone 1 wrote: »

looking forward to seeing them in EI colours. where does this free up A330s now and for what new routes .will wesjet be game changer in TA trips across the pond.

The B757's free up an A330 to operate the DUB-SFO route from April (5x weekly requires 1.5 A330's) as well as a modest increase in DUB-BOS during the summer.

Locker10a · 19-11-2013 11:14pm

calibratedtool wrote: »

Delivery to EI is 01/01. EIS somewhere mid to late January

Aw ok I read somewhere the 6th of Jan for the first SNN flights!!!

calibratedtool · 19-11-2013 11:24pm

Locker10a wrote: »

Aw ok I read somewhere the 6th of Jan for the first SNN flights!!!

That was the original plan which it may revert to.

Locker10a · 20-11-2013 12:00am

calibratedtool wrote: »

That was the original plan which it may revert to.

Just did a quick search there! Looks like it will be the 20th of Jan before the 757 comes on line in SNN! Not to far off at all!! Have EI confirmed how the Y cabin will be fitted ? PTV's ? What seats?

lord lucan · 20-11-2013 12:07am

Locker10a wrote: »

Just did a quick search there! Looks like it will be the 20th of Jan before the 757 comes on line in SNN! Not to far off at all!! Have EI confirmed how the Y cabin will be fitted ? PTV's ? What seats?

http://www.aircontractors.com/solutions/single/cabin-and-seating

ProfessorPlum · 20-11-2013 1:46am

EI are operating a charter service on behalf of Novair with the spare A330 from Dec to Mar. Various Scandinavian airports to the Carribean.

Tenger · 20-11-2013 7:20pm

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

EI are operating a charter service on behalf of Novair with the spare A330 from Dec to Mar. Various Scandinavian airports to the Carribean.

Yep. Was announced in the full year results last April/May. Contract for 2 winter season, option for a 3rd. Good use of a spare capacity in the A330 fleet over the off peak season ex-Ireland.

STEVE35 · 25-11-2013 4:44pm

I see one of Aer lingus 757 out on air test today from Shannon.

zone 1 · 25-11-2013 10:04pm

i wonder has the paint job been done ?

calibratedtool · 25-11-2013 10:09pm

zone 1 wrote: »

i wonder has the paint job been done ?

Not yet

Tenger · 25-11-2013 10:16pm

zone 1 wrote: »

i wonder has the paint job been done ?

No. The SNN snappers will be well warned when it emerges from the hanger in green.

Looking at the flight details in the image above it still show its Finnish reg. These aircraft were not heavily used by Finnair in recent months. Could be a pre-lease signing flight test?

LXFlyer · 03-12-2013 10:03pm

EI-LAX has headed off to Stockholm for its winter wet lease with Novair flying to and from various points in the Caribbean.

Nice work for the crew!!

basill · 03-12-2013 11:51pm

You think?

LXFlyer · 03-12-2013 11:57pm

basill wrote: »

You think?

Well presumably they've a few nights in the Caribbean - that's not all bad.

I do appreciate it does mean being away from home for longer than normal.

munchkin_utd · 04-12-2013 4:09pm

lxflyer wrote: »

Well presumably they've a few nights in the Caribbean - that's not all bad.

I do appreciate it does mean being away from home for longer than normal.

i saw a documentary on one of the German charter airlines crew, and it did look like a bit of crack for anyone who had no ties at home.
Because the crew already has worked their shift and need to clock off, they stay overnight and the crew from the previous day takes over and brings the plane back.

For mothers (or fathers) with young kids though it was not the place they wanted to be.

LXFlyer · 04-12-2013 4:16pm

How does the crewing work for these leases?

Is it done on a voluntary basis within Aer Lingus?

Jamie2k9 · 04-12-2013 6:48pm

lxflyer wrote: »

How does the crewing work for these leases?

Is it done on a voluntary basis within Aer Lingus?

It's probaly offered as voluntary first and if no takers you will be assigned a shift schedule. They are only providing the cockpit crew.

LAX was back in DUB earlier due to tech fault enroute back to ARN.

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