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Aer Lingus Fleet Discusion

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    #932
    Aphex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Aphex


    In work at the min and notice a white plane on the ramp at T2 with reg CS-TEX being loaded with Aer Lingus bins. Does anyone know anything about this?


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    #933
    LXFlyer
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    It's a hire in today.


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    #934
    Peregrine
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    Aphex wrote: »
    In work at the min and notice a white plane on the ramp at T2 with reg CS-TEX being loaded with Aer Lingus bins. Does anyone know anything about this?

    I'm guessing EI hired it.

    It flew from LIS to FAO as EI2481(FAO-DUB callsign) this morning which was a positioning flight. Then from FAO to DUB.


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    #935
    basill
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    Not to mention most of the Titan fleet operating for AL today both continental and intercontinental flights.


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    #936
    Aphex
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    lxflyer wrote: »
    It's a hire in today.

    What's the reason behind it?

    Spotted the titan on the 300's that's right. Was wondering about that too.


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    #937
    Preset No.3
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    You missed all the talk about a strike tomorrow?


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    #938
    Aphex
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    Preset No.3 wrote: »
    You missed all the talk about a strike tomorrow?
    Ah of course! I had forgotten about that.


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    #939
    fleet_admiral
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    Cravens wrote: »
    I did mention about the AT44's on PPRuNe myself, as you put it, just a -320 mechanically with -500 looks. But yes, they could well be a viable replacement for CBK (which if I am not mistaken is a bit temperamental) and EHH, which just looks knackered.

    EI-CBK is the St. Fintan ATR isnt it? I was on that recenlty, how is it temperamental?


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    #940
    highlydebased
    Registered Users Posts: 7,468 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    EI-CBK is the St. Fintan ATR isnt it? I was on that recenlty, how is it temperamental?

    It is. It's just a bit on the old side, and just like old cars they can give out sometimes!


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    #941
    LXFlyer
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    Aphex wrote: »
    Ah of course! I had forgotten about that.



    It's only a small matter!


    The other hire-ins were virtually all Titan aircraft.


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    #942
    Aphex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Aphex


    lxflyer wrote: »
    It's only a small matter!


    The other hire-ins were virtually all Titan aircraft.


    I mean, I wasn't thinking about the strike when looking at the aircraft. I was fatigued at the time :p

    I'd say that will cost a bit for them! Better than cancelled flights I suppose.


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    #943
    basill
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    Not sure strike is relevant for todays flights. Titan were going to lots of different destinations across europe and the US. From what i have read the cabin crew are on strike when in the ROI so inbound Atlantic flights on 30/5 shouldnt be impacted at all nor those that left today.


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    #944
    Plane Fan
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    Cravens wrote: »
    I did mention about the AT44's on PPRuNe myself, as you put it, just a -320 mechanically with -500 looks. But yes, they could well be a viable replacement for CBK (which if I am not mistaken is a bit temperamental) and EHH, which just looks knackered.

    I agree with that completely EHH doesn't look the best and it has a few patches, CBK doesn't look as bad as the EI livery hides the age a bit! Is there any news of them upgrading the AT43 or will they remain in the fleet for another while


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    #945
    roundymac
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    In the sept issue of Airliner World in an article about A330neo the COO John Leahy said the rapid pace of engine and airframe development meant the A330neo was actually more efficient than the A350-800.It leads Airbus to believe most customers would opt A330neo over the A358. Airbus claims the A330neo will typical offer a lifetime 7% cost advantage over the Boeing 787-8. It also stated it shares more than 95% commanality with the A330ceo.The engine will be the RR Trent 7000 which will give a 10% fuel burn reduction rising to 14% when additional aerodynamic updates and weight savings are taken into account. It will also be 50% quieter.
    Would this be a good fit for EI given that they don't use (AFAIK) RR engines?


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    #946
    L1011
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    roundymac wrote: »
    Would this be a good fit for EI given that they don't use (AFAIK) RR engines?

    They're going to have to if they take the A350s so its not as much of an issue as it would have been.


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    #947
    Tenger
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    roundymac wrote: »
    In the sept issue of Airliner World.....................................It also stated it shares more than 95% commanality with the A330ceo.The engine will be the RR Trent 7000 which will give a 10% fuel burn reduction rising to 14% when additional aerodynamic updates and weight savings are taken into account. It will also be 50% quieter.
    Would this be a good fit for EI given that they don't use (AFAIK) RR engines?
    Well if EI are happy with the 14% fuel efficiency then they will find a way to cp with the change of engine. The B757 operation may actually make them more open to new operating types. The bean counters will make the decision on whats "is the best option" then the operational side will have to make it work.


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    #948
    IRLConor
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    Don't EI have two engine suppliers already anyway? CFM for the 320s and GE for the 330s?


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    #949
    L1011
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    IRLConor wrote: »
    Don't EI have two engine suppliers already anyway? CFM for the 320s and GE for the 330s?

    Yes - although CFM is half owned by GE

    It would be less than ideal to have both CF6 and RR 330s for a prolonged period but if it makes sense financially it can be made happen; if they do take 350s they're RR anyway with only a variant of the same engine as the 330neo to begin with.


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    #950
    IRLConor
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    MYOB wrote: »
    Yes - although CFM is half owned by GE

    Ah, interesting. I didn't know that.


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    #951
    A319er
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    I wonder if EI have been a little too conservative as they are not growing shorthaul and lack 320's to do anything extra, YHZ will take 320 away from Europe next year, so unless Little Red is ending EI will be reducing
    Flights ?


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    #952
    owenc
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    I see nothing about this so called route to Halifax.


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    #953
    Tenger
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    owenc wrote: »
    I see nothing about this so called route to Halifax.
    That's because it is an industry insider rumour at the moment. EI have stated that they will announce some new routes in the next 4-6 weeks.


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    #954
    Jamie2k9
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    A319er wrote: »
    I wonder if EI have been a little too conservative as they are not growing shorthaul and lack 320's to do anything extra, YHZ will take 320 away from Europe next year, so unless Little Red is ending EI will be reducing
    Flights ?

    One or two other A320s are expected to go elsewhere on the network also so they must be pressing ahead with plans to get the 4 or 5 A320 on leases for summer season or at least peak season next year.


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    #955
    highlydebased
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    I notice the A320 (9M-AHH) they were going to lease from Air Asia this summer never happened

    Edit- some info here http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6127841


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    #956
    Razor44
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    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    One or two other A320s are expected to go elsewhere on the network also so they must be pressing ahead with plans to get the 4 or 5 A320 on leases for summer season or at least peak season next year.


    Are they looking to pick up some of monarchs about to be sold off a320s? There cfm engines etc? Just a thought. Also monarch are getting rid of their 332s but there all RR powered and 15yrs old


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    #957
    Jamie2k9
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    Razor44 wrote: »
    Are they looking to pick up some of monarchs about to be sold off a320s? There cfm engines etc? Just a thought. Also monarch are getting rid of their 332s but there all RR powered and 15yrs old

    Not sure but they announced the extra planes around March/April and then just before the June strikes again before any of ZB problems.


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    #958
    roundymac
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    ZB problems?


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    #959
    L1011
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    roundymac wrote: »
    ZB problems?

    Monarch's financial issues and the potential gutting of their entire fleet (for replacement with 737MAX, if they survive)

    The 330s and particularly the 757s are ancient and don't match the engines EI use anyway.


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    #960
    highlydebased
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    So, looks like they won't have to source A320's from anywhere as the Little Red operation is to be wound up!

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/Companies/article1455799.ece


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    #961
    Tenger
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    highlydebased wrote: »
    So, looks like they won't have to source A320's from anywhere as the Little Red operation is to be wound up!

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/Companies/article1455799.ece

    Well Little Red was always going to end sooner rather than later. I think the initial contract was for 2 years with an option of a 1 year extension. The assumption in the industry was that VS would always use those slots for longhaul as soon as able to.


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