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Is there anything you believe in that does not have proof ?

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Get a life. If anyone wants to mention the word Nazi in a sentance they are free to do so without you playing little made up huffy internet meme games.
    No, they're not. People are free to mention Nazis in the knowledge that other posters may consider their introduction to the discussion as clichéd and unhelpful, and are free to state this.

    Much like telling someone to "get a life".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    No evidence - but possible in my opinion.
    If life can survive on one planet why not on more??

    Saying something is possible is not the same thing as believing in it. From a scientific standpoint you have to accept that anything you cannot disprove is possible, although it doesn't mean you believe in it.

    I don't BELIEVE in aliens - but I think it's POSSIBLE they exist. As an atheist, I still think god is possible, but not the kind of caring just god that many people believe in. If he does exist, he doesn't intervene in our world at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    sealgaire wrote: »
    You believe in evolution so...?


    Um, what?

    There is nothing to "believe" about evolution. There are two evolutions, the process, which is an observed fact, for which belief is as sane as belief in the chair you sit at for your dinner.

    The other is the theory of evolution, which is accepted as the best current explanation for the how and why of the fact of the evolutionary process, and which is subject to change when better data or theories are published. Again belief is not relevant to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Geomy


    I believe there are White Sharks in Irish waters and it's only a matter of time before we will have a verified sighting :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    Geomy wrote: »
    I believe there are White Sharks in Irish waters and it's only a matter of time before we will have a verified sighting :)

    Do you believe that these white sharks could be great??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Geomy



    Do you believe that these white sharks could be great??

    Sorry Great White Sharks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    I believe I am not a brain in a jar...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Geomy wrote: »
    Sorry Great White Sharks :)

    Anyone of them with a low handicap in Golf?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭Banbh


    In conversation with a reasonable, literate articulate man the other day, the deforestation of Ireland and specifically the Burren came up. I remarked how the soil was eroded due to over-cultivation by our ancestors which is the current position of geologists and historians.
    My companion said 'I don't believe that.'
    I pointed out that several placenames in the area contain references to woods and trees and he replied 'I don't believe that'.
    There ended the conversation but I am still intrigued that there are people who think that knowledge accumulated by scientific examination may be 'believed' or not-believed as one chooses. I'm sorry I didn't probe further and see if he didn't believe in other things.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Geomy



    Anyone of them with a low handicap in Golf?

    Yeah,around the end of June I heard he arrives on Cornish Left,climbs up the cliffs.
    Can be seen cruising the bars in Lahinch on Saturdays,Tees off in Doonbeag on Sunday mornings.
    Likes a cigar now and again.
    He is known to eat bullhuss and tope for his breakfast,his roughage.
    Washes it down with discard juice...
    He goes back to the ocean mid September,swims off home to South Africa :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Geomy wrote: »
    Yeah,around the end of June I heard he arrives on Cornish Left,climbs up the cliffs.
    Can be seen cruising the bars in Lahinch on Saturdays,Tees off in Doonbeag on Sunday mornings.
    Likes a cigar now and again.
    He is known to eat bullhuss and tope for his breakfast,his roughage.
    Washes it down with discard juice...
    He goes back to the ocean mid September,swims off home to South Africa :)

    I used go on holidays (well when I was a toddler) in Doonbeg, my grand-uncle had a mobile home.

    Guess where the fecker decided to build his course?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Geomy



    I used go on holidays (well when I was a toddler) in Doonbeg, my grand-uncle had a mobile home.

    Guess where the fecker decided to build his course?

    Where ye had the mobile home of course :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Geomy wrote: »
    Where ye had the mobile home of course :)

    Correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    I believe this isn't the Matrix.

    Although, sometimes I DO believe that I'm the star of my own 'Truman Show'. You know that feeling when traffic just seems to appear out of nowhere. I usually just put this down to delusions of grandeur.

    Now I'll be wondering if the 'director' has instructed some of you 'actors' to Thank my post, or not. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭celticcrash


    PM. quick say thanks before he cops it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 EmmettInc


    I cannot prove a salamander exists as i sit here, and I have never seen one in real life, and I may not trust every source I reference such as books, internet etc. but I may trust eye-witness reports a b it more, but lets just say I've been lied to a lot and am a bit gullible, so I'm still not sure... I have two options- 1. Conduct experiments in order to prove salamanders exist, ie go to the part of the world which people claim they exist, and find the habitats in which they are supposed to live and after a reasonable series of searches and tests, conclude based on my observations whether or not I believe salamanders exist.
    or 2. Accept on the basis of reasonable faith not blind faith, that if I were to do such an experiment, based on the evidence i have researched from eye witness reports, internet, books etc. I would most likely arrive at the conclusion that they exist, thus I am taking a step of faith, that it is reasonable and logical based on rational and logic, that the assertions made are true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    You could just go to one of the better pet shops and ask to see a salamander...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 EmmettInc


    Sarky wrote: »
    You could just go to one of the better pet shops and ask to see a salamander...

    Yeah, but that doesn't sound like as much fun as going to any of the places many of the different types of salamander live:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    Not only do I believe in something without evidence, but I believe in something that by definition cannot have evidence, and that is in direct paradox with other things I believe.

    If I were to make a list of all the things I believe. Individually by definition I believe that everyone of these are correct, though obviously with varying degrees of certainty, otherwise why would I believe them. But I also believe that I'm almost certainly wrong about some of the things I believe, I just don't know which ones. Hence the paradox. And by definition I cannot have any evidence to back up this belief, because whenever I find evidence, I immediately invalidate it by changing my other beliefs to correspond to this new evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭Banbh


    I believe you are mixing up different meanings - or rather usages - of 'believe', probably intentionally for the fun of trying to get atheists to say they believe in things they cannot see and therefore should be willing to believe in gods.
    When I put down my pen and then reach for it because I believe it is where I left it is different to believing that fantastical creatures are true.
    If I were to make a list of all the things I believe.
    Fire ahead.


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