air rifles?

Tikkat3

murph226 wrote: »

Does anyone know where I can pick up a good quality 300bar surface use cylinder for my new air rifle?

Give Patrick Carley a call, he has them in stock and will courier to you http://patrickcarleyfirearms.com

murph226

Still waiting on the licence, picked up a 7 litre 300 Bar cylinder and charging gear while I'm waiting.

Any recommendations for cleaning gear and some oil for the stock?

Tikkat3

Most just get cleaned if accuracy drops so it's very different to a rim or Centre fire.

I have perfect performance and. accuracy for a thousand rounds + at this stage.

Air rifle barrels like to have lead in them for so many rounds but your barrel will let you know when that changes.

A bunch of. 22 patches on a pull through is generally the accepted way on an PCP 22.

Eo1n8wrd

This video is handy, shows you how to make a pull-through that works perfectly with stuff you'll have kicking about in the shed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZdYfmIAYBA

murph226

Finally got a letter saying that my application had been received, I called the Supers office and was told I should have I should have the license letter in 10 days!

tac foley

Tikkat3 wrote: »

Most just get cleaned if accuracy drops so it's very different to a rim or Centre fire.

I have perfect performance and. accuracy for a thousand rounds + at this stage.

Air rifle barrels like to have lead in them for so many rounds but your barrel will let you know when that changes.

A bunch of. 22 patches on a pull through is generally the accepted way on an PCP 22.

I've had a Walther LG55 target springer since the late 1980's - the previous owners were my gun club in Berlin and I won it in a raffle on one of our frequent returns.

Until I put a couple of cleaning pellets through it a few years back, I don't bleeve that the bore had ever been cleaned.

Being a crappy shot anyhow, it didn't seem to make much difference. My Feinwekbau P70 hasn't yet been cleaned down the barrel, and the previous owner is a current Olympic silver medallist from the London Paralympics, having been a Gold medallist in Beijing. He'd never cleaned it either.

Sadly, none of his skilful shooting was left in the rifle when it came to me...

tac

murph226

Finally got my grant letter this morning, should have the HW100 going in the next few days!

Anyone else think the license fee is a bit on the steep side or am I just a tight barsteward?

Cass

murph226 wrote: »

Finally got my grant letter this morning, should have the HW100 going in the next few days!

Congrats.

Anyone else think the license fee is a bit on the steep side or am I just a tight barsteward?

Considering the old price, and that you had to pay per year it's, overall, cheaper. Even the shotgun licenses are almost on a par.

1shot16

To be fair i think they should give a plastic card like a drivers lience!

cw67irl

What did the HW100 run you do you mind me asking?

BattleCorp

1shot16 wrote: »

To be fair i think they should give a plastic card like a drivers lience!

Yep, that is a good idea. And it should have a photo on it too. I'm amazed that the current licences don't have a photo seeing as we have to supply one when we are applying for the licence.

1shot16

Yeah a photo should be on it too i was surprised to get a crappy piece of paper and i paid 80 for a feckin licence!

tac foley

BattleCorp wrote: »

Yep, that is a good idea. And it should have a photo on it too. I'm amazed that the current licences don't have a photo seeing as we have to supply one when we are applying for the licence.

That's unusual.

So anybody checking your license really has no idea if you really are who you say you are.

How, then, do you buy ammunition in a store where you are not known?

tac

Witcher

tac foley wrote: »

That's unusual.

So anybody checking your license really has no idea if you really are who you say you are.

How, then, do you buy ammunition in a store where you are not known?

tac

They just note down all the details off the licence, that's all they can do really.

tac foley

Thanks, Blay.

Just seems to be open to abuse by a person with criminal intent, that's all.

tac

Cass

It has worked this way since the start.

When the 2009 licensing system was "overhauled" there was talk or rumor of a new card and it having a photo on it. Hence the reason we were required to supply two photos with each application. It never materialised. Like the new system itself it was rushed into service before it was ready and the new cards turned out to be pale imitations of what they were supposed to be.

If the system was abused and someone with a stolen or fake license got ammo they still need the firearm. It would only be if the Gardaí decided to audit that any errors would be caught. It is far from perfect, but again it "works" so is not properly updated.

1shot16

And also u could buy any .22 ammo should specify maybe what .22 ammo u can buy as is LR WSM HORNET etc

Who do we go to with these new proposals?

Also draw up a list whats like for like i find that very vague also....

Cass

Who do we go to with these new proposals?

Approach your NGB. Give in your details, concerns and ask them to bring up the topic. It's better this way as they will provide all such applciations rather than the one at a time if people were to send it to the DoJ directly. Also it would be ignored from an individual.

Also draw up a list whats like for like i find that very vague also....

It's purposely like that. So the end decision can be made by the Super and s/he has room to manoeuvre"".

murph226

License and rifle finally arrived, they gave me 100 rounds on the license after asking for 500.

The scope is just barely touching the barrel with medium mounts, would it be ok to shim the scope up with something like a sliver of lead instead of getting new mounts, or would I be ok even temporarily until I get some new mounts?

BattleCorp

murph226 wrote: »

License and rifle finally arrived, they gave me 100 rounds on the license after asking for 500.

Is it even possible to buy 100 pellets? I've only ever seen tins of 500 or more.

If they aren't sold in batches of 100 but only larger tins, how are you supposed to buy ammo legally?

Horse1920

BattleCorp wrote: »

Is it even possible to buy 100 pellets? I've only ever seen tins of 500 or more.

If they aren't sold in batches of 100 but only larger tins, how are you supposed to buy ammo legally?

Same thing happened me, see your firearms officer in local Garda station, he'll guide you if you tell him it's lowest 200 tin available, I think 100 is kinda generic cartridge allocation now until you reapply

tac foley

Many airgun shooters in the RoI seem to have been in this predicament over the years. There seems to be no answer to a problem that should not exist.

What IS the answer, apart from writing a polite letter to your super explaining the impossibility of shooting the gun that you have just had licensed because you cannot buy ammunition for it.

There really can be no excuse for such a ridiculous state of affairs.

I've not seen pellets sold in less than 500's. Perhaps somebody here can put me right about that - I just buy five thousand at a time, and get a bit more discount than usual.

tac

Cass

murph226 wrote: »

License and rifle finally arrived, they gave me 100 rounds on the license after asking for 500.

Did you supply a note on your separate letter stating that they cannot be bought in amounts less than 500?

If not write a letter or tell him on the phone that to keep within the law you need 1,000. This allows you to have a tin and to purchase a new tin before the first runs out.

BattleCorp

tac foley wrote: »

Many airgun shooters in the RoI seem to have been in this predicament over the years. There seems to be no answer to a problem that should not exist.

There is an answer to the problem. They should train up a load of FOs so that they have at least basic knowledge of firearms. And yes, I know that the position doesn't officially exist within the Gardai - but it should .

1shot16

I know someone who got 25 on their first shotgun licence...did the FO expect him to be beside the feckin shop running back every day to get ammo haha.

finnan1

Rather than start a new thread and as an DOJ import license was already spoken of in this thread, i would like to know once received, how the import document actually works, as in do i need to fax it etc to a dealer in NI, each and every time i wish to purchase my pellets, does it last only one transaction,etc... ?

Cass

finnan1 wrote: »

............ once received, how the import document actually works, as in do i need to fax it etc to a dealer in NI, each and every time i wish to purchase my pellets,

Yes.

You fax it to the dealer, and send the original. Keep a copy for yourself. If he can find someone to ship it he must attach the import documentation to the order.

If you'd rather collect you need a NI visitor's permit (which lasts for a year) and the same import paperwork to bring it over the border.

does it last only one transaction,etc... ?

Yes.

For each transaction you need a new import form.

Why are you buying or thinking of buying int he north? Would a local dealer not have or get you what you want?

finnan1

Thanks for the clarification.

I do mostly buy local, but it would be nice to purchase some items not available locally at times

cheers

Milkthief

Apply for a European pass. Then can go up north n buy your own pellets

Cass

Afraid not. The European Firearms license/pass does not allow you to buy ammo in the North and bring it South.

To buy in the North you need a license. Unlike the UK, but strangely like here, you need a license for an air rifle up North. That aside whatever the status of pellets, they are classed as ammo in the South so you need to import them. If they are classed as ammo up the North then you need a visitor's pass to be able to possess and carry them when in the North.

So you must import them via an import license from the DoJ. It's free and comes within a week. So not a major ordeal.