How sick do you need to be to not go to work?

Rasheed · 10-02-2013 5:36pm

A cold is a cold, take a Panadol and don't sneeze on people in work.

Anything more serious or more infectious, yeah stay at home and don't be bothered with the 'Im so hard, I gave birth earlier today and I'm here now' crowd. If your genuinely sick, get better at home and go back when you're well.

whiteandlight · 10-02-2013 5:44pm

Colds are infectious too. They may only give you some sniffles, but if you come in contagious what's to say the person you give it to doesnt have some underlying condition that you cause to flare up? I have cough varient asthma. Stay the hell away from me at home if you have a cold, a head cold for me results in steroids and sick leave

mark renton · 10-02-2013 6:13pm

mawk wrote: »

Does she get sick?

we dont allow sick in my family - in the last 5 years I have had no sick days and no holidays - I have had roughly 15-20 days off for college exams

sick days are for soft people

tenton · 10-02-2013 6:15pm

mark renton wrote: »

sick days are for soft people

or people in soft jobs, according to all evidence. "PUBLIC servants took twice as much sick leave as private sector workers last year\"

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sickies-in-public-service-twice-that-of-private-sector-26798438.html

Odysseus · 10-02-2013 6:33pm

tenton wrote: »

or people in soft jobs, according to all evidence. "PUBLIC servants took twice as much sick leave as private sector workers last year\"

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sickies-in-public-service-twice-that-of-private-sector-26798438.html

Do you post about anything else? In the last 7 hours you have posted 7 anti PS posts.

What is wrong with our public servants?

tenton · 10-02-2013 6:37pm

nothing wrong with many of them...just that some of them have a tendency to take a lot of sickies unecessarily and the rest of us take up the slack / pay for them

kfallon · 10-02-2013 6:39pm

Best username ever wrote: »

I've worked for multinational companies in the tech industry and they tend to grade absenteeism in percentages, which is directly connected to your pay rise etc..

I currently work for a large MNC and they do the same.

I work for a very large Financial Services Company and I have never heard of them mentioning absenteeism. In fact a mate of mine was out for months with depression and they went out of their way to integrate him back into the company. Think he even got a bit of a bonus in his first month back as it was annual bonus time in the company even tho he hadn't been there for about 9-10 months.

RhubarbCrumble · 10-02-2013 6:52pm

If I don't go to work, there's no one else there to do it and it has to be done next day. Given that I have to be in set places on set days, not a good idea. If I ring in sick the only person it causes a problem for is myself

woodoo · 10-02-2013 6:52pm

kfallon wrote: »

l (had gout a couple of years ago and couldn't walk)
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Too many steaks.

efb · 10-02-2013 6:53pm

Kidney Failure- so we're all good for tomorrow

El_Dangeroso · 10-02-2013 6:55pm

RhubarbCrumble wrote: »

If I don't go to work, there's no one else there to do it and it has to be done next day. Given that I have to be in set places on set days, not a good idea. If I ring in sick the only person it causes a problem for is myself

I'm the same, work just rolls over to the next day, ditto for holidays, it just snowballs along till I come back.:(

woodoo · 10-02-2013 6:55pm

tenton wrote: »

or people in soft jobs, according to all evidence. "PUBLIC servants took twice as much sick leave as private sector workers last year\"

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sickies-in-public-service-twice-that-of-private-sector-26798438.html

You are like a broken record. Its worrying that there are people out there so obsessed with one subject.

Have you nothing else to offer :rolleyes:

HondaSami · 10-02-2013 6:57pm

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

I'm feeling under the weather today, think I'm coming down with a cold - not hungover if that's what you were thinking:)

Not super sick, but definitely ache-y and slowed down and mostly thrown down on the couch listlessly. Currently debating whether to go into work tomorrow if I still feel this bad. If I feel worse it's a definite, but currently I'm borderline.

How sick do you need to be before you call in sick? Are you the 'soldier-on-until-imminent-death' type or do you have a duvet day at the first sign of a runny nose?

Get up and go into work, go home sick if you have too, looks much better than phoning/texting in sick.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 10-02-2013 7:00pm

TheBody wrote: »

I don't get paid unless I'm at work, so I'm one of those 'soldier-on-until-imminent-death' people you refer to.

I'm the same, although, some companies don't like it when you turn up sick. They don't want you to come into work just in case you spread your sickness and more people end up out because of it. I haven't called in sick for 3 years, but at the same time, there's plenty of people who don't turn up on a regular basis because they are "sick"...

Denerick · 10-02-2013 7:01pm

Don't understand the controversy.

If you're ill, don't go into work.

Are we ****ing slaves? The vast majority of us work so that a tiny minority can enjoy the trappings of wealth whilst we life at a subsistence or quasi subsistence level. The greatest enemy of the working man is the working man's warped sense of ethics.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 7:03pm

galwayrush wrote: »

It's not an option for the self employed.

It's always an option for the self employed to not be self employed. Join PAYE.

GT_TDI_150 · 10-02-2013 7:03pm

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Nobody should get paid for not being at work.

Real mature attitude that, i was just out for 10 days with percarditis(infection on my heart) the pain from this is horrible, cant cough, yawn, clear nose, walking hurts, extremely difficult to sleep, really painful to lie down, breathing was restricted, shoulders were like they had pins jammed in them, vibration from the roads meant being in the car was excrutiating but hey thats fine, no need to pay me, my small fella cant survive on dust for a week or 2 no bother.

If employers were forced to pay sick pay they might pay more attention to those 'pulling sickies' when fine and healthy!

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 7:05pm

Denerick wrote: »

Don't understand the controversy.

If you're ill, don't go into work.

Are we ****ing slaves? The vast majority of us work so that a tiny minority can enjoy the trappings of wealth whilst we life at a subsistence or quasi subsistence level. The greatest enemy of the working man is the working man's warped sense of ethics.

We're hardly at subsistence level. However your general sentiment is correct and I am pro capitalist.

People fought hard for these rights. You don't have to be dying to not go to work. Just sick. In fact making other people sick is bad for business.

kfallon · 10-02-2013 7:05pm

woodoo wrote: »

Too many steaks.

It was the Michelin star food and vin rouge!

I actually very rarely eat steak (if you excuse the pun!)

Pinklady11 · 10-02-2013 7:07pm

Generally I would go to work if I just had a cold or something similar. If I have any injuries I don't go and get a note from the doctor. Thats most due to my job being physically demanding.

El_Dangeroso · 10-02-2013 7:26pm

HondaSami wrote: »

Get up and go into work, go home sick if you have too, looks much better than phoning/texting in sick.

See, I'm a salary worker, and work to projects, not hours clocked. I often put in extra hours or work the odd Saturday, so work knows that I'm not prone to skiving.

I used to do just that, but find once I start getting into the day, then go home I'll be tormented with calls and emails as once people see you're in at the morning the expectation is that you'll still be there in the afternoon!

In any case, I'm feeling a bit better, still a bit ****ty but nothing more serious developing I think.

HTML5! · 10-02-2013 7:30pm

woodoo wrote: »

Too many steaks.

Educate yourself on something before commenting on it.

tenton · 10-02-2013 7:34pm

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

It's always an option for the self employed to not be self employed. Join PAYE.

Communism has failed in any country it was tried in. Besides, two wrongs do not make a right. Quadrupling or multiplying by a factor of 10 the number of sick days lost in the economy would not help the economy.

CarrickMcJoe · 10-02-2013 7:35pm

Odysseus wrote: »

Ah come on, a total blanket ban on all sick leave? On what grounds?

On people who regard sick leave as an extension on their holidays!

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 7:36pm

tenton wrote: »

Communism has failed in any country it was tried in. Besides, two wrongs do not make a right. Quadrupling or multiplying by a factor of 10 the number of sick days lost in the economy would not help the economy.

What has "communism" got to do with anything I said? Do you think the PAYE sector is all communistic? Or what, exactly?

Nobody is defending people taking fake sickies, just real ones.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 7:37pm

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

On people who regard sick leave as an extension on their holidays!

Which isn't what we are talking about. The OP is sick.

tenton · 10-02-2013 7:40pm

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

What has "communism" got to do with anything I said?.

you wrote "It's always an option for the self employed to not be self employed. Join PAYE."
silly comment

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 7:42pm

tenton wrote: »

you wrote "It's always an option for the self employed to not be self employed. Join PAYE."
silly comment

And then I said - what has that gotto do with communism. No point quoting me again. Explain why think you the PAYE sector is communist.

HondaSami · 10-02-2013 7:42pm

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

On people who regard sick leave as an extension on their holidays!

This should not be allowed happen, doctors should not be signing certs if people are not sick. This is changing in the public service now, long overdue.

testicle · 10-02-2013 7:43pm

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Nobody should get paid for not being at work.

Damn those holidays I've planned!

tenton · 10-02-2013 7:44pm

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

And then I said - what has that gotto do with communism. No point quoting me again. Explain why think you the PAYE sector is communist.

what would every self employed person leaving self employment achieve?
That type of society failed in case you never noticed.

CarrickMcJoe · 10-02-2013 7:46pm

From first day sick leave should be certified. This 2 or 3 days of uncertified leave is a copout.

tenton · 10-02-2013 7:47pm

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

The OP is sick.

Correction, The OP thinks he / she is "coming down with a cold". They must have a soft job if they think they can get paid for not working while they think they are coming down with a cold

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 7:50pm

tenton wrote: »

what would every self employed person leaving self employment achieve?
That type of society failed in case you never noticed.

Where did I say every self employed person should leave self employment?.

I used to be self employed, now i dont. It easy. And again why do you continue to think that only the self employed work in the private sector? The PAYE sector is mostly private

HondaSami · 10-02-2013 7:51pm

tenton wrote: »

Correction, The OP thinks he / she is "coming down with a cold". They must have a soft job if they think they can get paid for not working while they think they are coming down with a cold

I think the OP said he is on a salary, he is going to get paid anyway.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 7:51pm

tenton wrote: »

Correction, The OP thinks he / she is "coming down with a cold". They must have a soft job if they think they can get paid for not working while they think they are coming down with a cold

Really? Surely a cold would be good enough in most jobs if severe enough.

Are some people here posting from the 19th century workhouses?

Best username ever · 10-02-2013 7:52pm

kfallon wrote: »

I work for a very large Financial Services Company and I have never heard of them mentioning absenteeism. In fact a mate of mine was out for months with depression and they went out of their way to integrate him back into the company. Think he even got a bit of a bonus in his first month back as it was annual bonus time in the company even tho he hadn't been there for about 9-10 months.

Listen, I work in in a team of elite engineers, the grades go on time spent in the company, say 6 of us spend 90%' of our time there, the other four get 100% of their pay rises for 100% activity.

It's not a great system but it roots out the useless fúckers.

tenton · 10-02-2013 7:54pm

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

I used to be self employed, now i dont. It easy.

so is getting paid for dubious sickies which some people advocate. Its easy. go for it. if you think you are coming down with a cold there is no need to go to work. Take a few days off. Mind your stress levels too.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 7:56pm

tenton wrote: »

so is getting paid for dubious sickies which some people advocate. Its easy. go for it.

Nobody is defending dubious sickies. If the OP is sick he should stay out. Some companies actually force that issue.

Duggys Housemate · 10-02-2013 7:59pm

Best username ever wrote: »

Listen, I work in in a team of elite engineers, the grades go on time spent in the company, say 6 of us spend 90%' of our time there, the other four get 100% of their pay rises for 100% activity.

It's not a great system but it roots out the useless fúckers.

That's the weirdest system. I worked in a company where the best engineer made his own time - I wasn't good enough to do that and prefer regular hours. He came in late and worked late and was - by all accounts - brilliant. Except for the morale of other employees that is often the way to treat the very skilled.

Your company judges it's "elite" engineers by how much time they spend in the office?

CarrickMcJoe · 10-02-2013 8:00pm

Ha Ha just noticed OPs username, El Dangeroso!!!!!

With the sniffles

donegal_man · 10-02-2013 8:02pm

I'd say it depends on the nature of your work, if you work mostly on your own or have an office to yourself then make the effort. If on the other hand you're likely to be coughing, sneezing and snuffling around a bunch of colleagues or customers then stay at home, likewise if you're preparing or serving food. Who likes the thought of a waiter asking "how, cough, was your main sniff course" or a chef sneezing all over their steak?
As far as the "I have to go in or the place would grind to a halt without me" argument goes I heard a great comeback years ago when the boss told one of the lads he had to come in the next day as he couldn't be done without. "Guv'nor, Rookwood (huge cemetery in Sydney) is full of indispensable men"

GT_TDI_150 · 10-02-2013 8:04pm

Just to clarify are we talking 'runny nose and a cough' kinda sick or 'taking a sh#t in the cistern at a house party' kinda sick

El_Dangeroso · 10-02-2013 8:09pm

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

Ha Ha just noticed OPs username, El Dangeroso!!!!!

With the sniffles

Feeling better now! Had some spicy chicken soup. Early night and hope for the best in the morning..

tenton wrote: »

Correction, The OP thinks he / she is "coming down with a cold". They must have a soft job if they think they can get paid for not working while they think they are coming down with a cold

What do you work at tenton? I bet it's something super important.

space_man · 10-02-2013 8:18pm

Happily i'm financially secure so these matters do not bother me. i do feel for all those poor commuters of a sunday evening though!:p

Tar.Aldarion · 10-02-2013 8:22pm

I've never taken a sick day so I don't know. Would have to be more than sniffles, the man flu maybe. I don't think there is much you can do to stop a cold going around an office. By the time you're sick you've infected everybody :-P
I know of some people who would just take it for anything, because they hadn't taken any and so on...

HondaSami · 10-02-2013 8:26pm

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I've never taken a sick day so I don't know. Would have to be pretty bad. I don't think many people take it for colds and the like.

Some people will take a sick day for anything no matter how trivial.
Some people use annual leave as sick days, who is gaining here the employee or the employer ?
If promotion is on the cards then sick days are not good on your file.

The Big Red Button · 10-02-2013 8:38pm

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

From first day sick leave should be certified. This 2 or 3 days of uncertified leave is a copout.

I'd have no problem with that, so long as it was the employer's responsibility to pay for the doctors appointment.

Having said that, say if I have a 24-hour bug or something, there's nothing much the doctor will be able to do for me, and it seems quite senseless to drag myself in there and waste the doctors time, if it's something that a bit of bed-rest and plenty of fluids will sort out.

mikemac1 · 10-02-2013 8:44pm

CarrickMcJoe wrote: »

From first day sick leave should be certified. This 2 or 3 days of uncertified leave is a copout.

And what will happen is people miss one days work, have to pay around 55 euro for a doctor and then they may as well miss 2 or 3 days after shelling out

woodoo · 10-02-2013 8:47pm

HTML5! wrote: »

Educate yourself on something before commenting on it.

I know all about gout i was joking. Anyone who has gout will get that thrown at them. Kfallon has heard it all before i'm sure.

How sick do you need to be to not go to work?

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