Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Super-di-dooper-thread 12/13

madcabbage

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Im gonna be like a feckin baby today

Think everyone will be joining ya on that one!

Al Capwned

Al gonna be like.....

kmart6

Al Capwned wrote: »

All gonna be like.....

FYP

Al Capwned

Love this. He was 57 at the time. Dont think anyone could have hoped for another 14 years.

Pj!

Just read that Fergie didn't take training Friday or Saturday. Nor did he contribute to the managers column in the match programme, for the first time. He avoided the normal Friday pre match press conference and nor did he appear on MUTV.
I really hope they didn't force the man out.

dmc17

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Im gonna be like a feckin baby today

Especially when this is blasting out over the PA

kmart6

Pj! wrote: »

Just read that Fergie didn't take training Friday or Saturday. Nor did he contribute to the managers column in the match programme, for the first time. He avoided the normal Friday pre match press conference and nor did he appear on MUTV.
I really hope they didn't force the man out.

Seriously?! Get a grip! The Friday presser would have been mayhem, no need to take it....as for training so what if he didn't take it! Pushing him out...FFS! :rolleyes:

Pj!

kmart6 wrote: »

Seriously?! Get a grip! The Friday presser would have been mayhem, no need to take it....as for training so what if he didn't take it! Pushing him out...FFS! :rolleyes:

It's unlike him. It's the same man who said days before that he wasn't going anywhere and was staying on. It's a thought.
I have a grip thanks.

Al Capwned

dmc17 wrote: »

My Way

Ah ffs, that's got me right in the feels....

MD1990

Fergie is staying on the board so he wasn't forced out
i think the reason he is going now is because he saw that Moyes contract was up
& seen it as the perfect time to get him as the new Manager without having to pay for him

Red Crow

MD1990 wrote: »

Fergie is staying on the board so he wasn't forced out
i think the reason he is going now is because he saw that Moyes contract was up
& seen it as the perfect time to get him as the new Manager without having to pay for him

I don't think paying for a manager would have been a major issue nevermind the deciding factor.

Lovely Bloke

Lads, get a grip ffs.

"emotional" , "like a baby".

What the hell is going on here? It's like a competition to see who can be the saddest.

No-one died.

Ridiculous.

To Alcohol

Saying goodbye is so hard as what we've had was so special. Thanks Fergie.

MD1990

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Lads, get a grip ffs.

"emotional" , "like a baby".

What the hell is going on here? It's like a competition to see who can be the saddest.

No-one died.

Ridiculous.

u obviously have no conscience in that baldy head of yours:p

tallaghtmick

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Lads, get a grip ffs.

"emotional" , "like a baby".

What the hell is going on here? It's like a competition to see who can be the saddest.

No-one died.

Ridiculous.

Crap fan alert:pac:

Lovely Bloke

#totesemosh

#cut4fergie

Al Capwned

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Lads, get a grip ffs.

"emotional" , "like a baby".

What the hell is going on here? It's like a competition to see who can be the saddest.

No-one died.

Ridiculous.

A man that has been a huge part of my life for pretty much as long as I can remember is leaving the football club I love.

Might not be crying in the corner, but I'll definitely be emotional today and I'll make no apologies for it.

Pj!

MD1990 wrote: »

Fergie is staying on the board so he wasn't forced out
i think the reason he is going now is because he saw that Moyes contract was up
& seen it as the perfect time to get him as the new Manager without having to pay for him

I don't think being on the board would indicate anything. He was going to get that anyway.

Like a lot of people I was surprised to hear of his retirement, especially just days after he wrote that he was staying on.
Surprised this morning to hear that he has dropped all those duties since the decision.


Anyway, that aside today should be a great day. Looking forward to it. No need for any of the crying for hours either. Celebrate the great man.

Lovely Bloke

OK

tallaghtmick

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

OK

Pj!

Mark Hughes: Sir Alex Ferguson was ruthless at Manchester United, but usually made the right decisions

In January I went to see Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United’s training ground. I spent an hour in his company, just the two of us talking.
It is not something I have done many times, usually it has been a 10-minute chat before or after games, but I wanted to have that hour. When I have asked for help or advice, he has always been there and not just because I am one of his former players – although I also nearly worked for him a few years ago when he offered me the reserve team job at United. At that time I wanted to concentrate on being the Wales manager.
It was a private conversation: we just talked about football. It was another sign of just how helpful he can be. I have had it before – he will send a text or call you up and he is always willing to give that help. He likes to see his old players stay in the game and he also understands how precarious it can be. Sir Alex is on record as saying you can be a good manager but you need luck.
What he has achieved will never be beaten. He is driven, pure and simple. That is why it was so important for him to take that Premier League title back from Manchester City before he retired. He wanted to go out on top.
There is a remorselessness to him which is almost certainly a result of his upbringing. It keeps him grounded and ensures he takes nothing for granted. I remember the first time I went into his office and saw that sign behind him that reads “Ahcumfigovin” (“I come from Govan”, for the non-Glaswegians) and the qualities he has, not least the leadership qualities, come from his background. He is proud of his roots and, as a Celt myself, I can relate to that.
That remorselessness showed in the way he took control of Manchester United: he instilled discipline, breaking up the drinking culture – something that was prevalent in all clubs in the 1980s – and introduced a real shift of emphasis. United were always regarded as the biggest and the best, but the team did not justify that.
It took time but he was given that time because the club understood the character of the man. Everyone at United knew he was the right guy for the job, irrespective of winning trophies. There was a big play on that FA Cup third round tie against Nottingham Forest in 1990 when Mark Robins scored with people saying it saved Sir Alex’s job. But I never thought he was going to leave or that he was under that kind of pressure.
He won the FA Cup that year but it was the league that was the dream, the holy grail. For 26 years we had not done it and when we lost out to Leeds in 1992 he might have thought that team was never going to win it, ripped it up and started again. But he showed great faith in us and obviously we responded and kicked on. To be part of the United team that won it after so long is very special and I know he holds that side close to his heart. We were the right team for the right time and he always respected that.
Not that he shied away from big decisions. People understood that when he let me, Paul Ince and Andrei Kanchelskis all go in the same summer of 1995. In truth, my decision to leave was not such a shock as he had already signed Andy Cole as my replacement and I wanted to play – plus he could get some money back for me and he was always good at doing that!
It was always like that between us. I was always happy as long as I was picked. I did not demand any more of him as a player and I appreciated I was in a privileged position because I was one of his main strikers for seven years and he knew I never took that for granted. I also knew if I did not perform then I would be out of the side and I would never let my standards drop. That was about personal pride but also it was a consequence of what he demanded from you.
I certainly was not immune from the 'hairdryer’. I remember an FA Cup match, away to Leeds United in 1992, when I really got it in the neck. I had mis-controlled the ball from a couple of throw-ins and apparently Brian Kidd, the assistant manager, had to persuade him not to take me off after 10 minutes. I duly got the full blast at half-time.
It explains why, as players, we would always try not to give the ball away just before half-time as you knew you would be the one in for it! But in the event I stayed on and scored the winning goal so he got the response he wanted.
Sir Alex has adapted and changed, of course, just as football has. The level of staff carried by a club now is huge compared to a few years ago. But the biggest change he made was getting to grips with the youth policy. He made sure the best local lads came to Manchester United.
We will never see his like again. He has crossed generations. He does not get many decisions wrong and I do not think he has got this decision wrong.

Felexicon

Al Capwned wrote: »

A man that has been a huge part of my life for pretty much as long as I can remember is leaving the football club I love.

Might not be crying in the corner, but I'll definitely be emotional today and I'll make no apologies for it.

Lord TSC

In the midst of all the celebrations, it's worth noting we've actually got a match as well today :pac:

I can't imagine it'll be too fun being a Swansea player today. They've already been on holidays for weeks now, and one would imagine they won't want to spoil the party. Hopefully the team give Fergie a high-scoring send off

missingtime

http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/may/11/alex-ferguson-manchester-united-manager

Good piece here on the way Utd players carried themselves and the ethos that ferguson build.

It's written by David James.

Cypher_sounds

So many great memories of this great football club pretty much all thanks to Sir Alex. What a legend! Hard to believe that he won't be in the United dugout anymore after next weekend, it will take a while to get used to it.

Simply the best, thanks for the memories Sir Alex.

Al Capwned

ffs Cypher...

Felexicon

Al Capwned wrote: »

ffs Cypher...

Ah get a grip you big girls blouse

Mr.Crinklewood

Work still expect to see a Scholes tackle fly in on someone next season.

Vic Vinegar

DM_7

Pj! wrote: »

I don't think being on the board would indicate anything. He was going to get that anyway.

Like a lot of people I was surprised to hear of his retirement, especially just days after he wrote that he was staying on.
Surprised this morning to hear that he has dropped all those duties since the decision.
.

He is 71 years old, how can you really be surprised by a 71 one year old retiring from a high pressure job?

He was going to retire over 10 years ago!

Lord TSC

Ah Jesus Sin, I didn't need to see that...

Pj!

DM-ICE wrote: »

He is 71 years old, how can you really be surprised by a 71 one year old retiring from a high pressure job?

Everyone was surprised! Just go back a few pages. Hindsight bias is great but this announcement surprised the footballing world.

DM_7

Pj! wrote: »

Everyone was surprised! Just go back a few pages. Hindsight bias is great but this announcement surprised the footballing world.

Exactly, at the time it was shock as it wasn't something many were thinking about.

But a few days have passed, it allowed a chance to consider many things and it makes more sense for him to want to retire.

A lot more sense than the forced out theory at this stage.

Thatsfootball

It's a shame SAF is leaving, but I'm sure when he took over nobody expected such a long stay and an unprecedented level of trophies. It's the end of an era really at Utd with Scholes going too. I hope Scholesy gets a 25 yard screamer, that Barca goal will always be my favourite from him!

End of something special, but also the beginning of something exciting. I'm happy with Moyes and who knows, if he has a good 1st year everyone's opinion (in football in general) will see his appointment justified. There's a good core of young players at Utd, and so not many areas have to be strengthened, apart from CM.

Hoping for a big win today, or a high scoring 4-3 or something, with the winner by Scholes in "Fergie time"!

Pj!

DM-ICE wrote: »

Exactly, at the time it was shock as it wasn't something many were thinking about.

But a few days have passed, it allowed a chance to consider many things and it makes more sense for him to want to retire.

As I said, you're experiencing hindsight bias.

Vic Vinegar

Look at Sheringham.... lol

Pj!

Here's a great article from back in the day. 1993 to be precise!


Football: The heirs to a magnificent dream: Alex Ferguson's talented youngsters hold the promise of a rich future for Manchester United, but he is determined to preserve them from premature adulation. Richard Williams investigates
RICHARD WILLIAMS SUNDAY 24 JANUARY 1993



ALEX FERGUSON won't let me talk to Ryan Giggs. That's nothing new. He's never let anyone with a pencil or a microphone talk to the 19-year-old who made his first-team debut for Manchester United two seasons ago and is now the most exciting footballer in Britain. As far as the media are concerned, there's an exclusion zone around Ryan Giggs.
It isn't just Giggs, though. Here are some of the other footballers Alex Ferguson won't let me, or anyone else, talk to: Simon Davies, George Switzer, Ben Thornley, Keith Gillespie, Nicky Butt, Robert Savage, Paul Scholes, Craig Lawton, David Beckham, Gary Neville.

Mark those names well. Some of them you may never hear again, at least in the context of Manchester United. The odds are, though, that among them will be one of those rare footballers whose appeal transcends normal loyalties, whose gifts are enough to persuade the disaffected to check in their cynicism for a season or two, who can show us dreams and give us memories.

'I'd be really hard pressed,' Ferguson is telling me, 'to say where we'd go to get better than the young players we've got coming through now. That can be a dangerous thing to say, but . . .'

Last season, while his first team was falling at the final hurdle in the race for the league championship, Ferguson's young players won the FA Youth Cup. More than a quarter of a century after their last league title, United's hunger for it is all-devouring - to the point, some would say, of neurotic obsession. But many, including the managers of other clubs, also think that the youth team's success was more significant than the failure of the seniors. They look at the growing power vacuum in English football, at the implosion on Merseyside and the damp squibs in north London, and suspect that Ferguson has laid the foundation for a dominance that could last a generation. Manchester United, it is felt, might be on the way to achieving the kind of national hegemony currently enjoyed in Italy by Milan.

The burden of such expectations can lie heavy on young shoulders, and Ferguson's fierce protectiveness stems from bitter personal experience. Some years ago, when he was managing Aberdeen, he found himself having to thrust a batch of youngsters into his first team, all at one go. It didn't work, either for the club or the boys concerned. Is that still in his mind?

'You wonder,' he says, and pauses. 'I don't know. I'm still conscious of it.

I brought about six of them in, and none of them, I think, are playing now . . . they never became the players they should have been, anyway. Maybe it catches up with them, when you get the best out of them so early.'

Then it happened again, in his third season at Old Trafford, 1988-89, when he found himself in trouble with injuries to his senior players. Again he reached for the starlets, and for a few weeks the back pages were full of the new names. People talked about a new generation coming through to match the legend of the Busby Babes. And again the promise was unfulfilled. Now, four years later, Mark Robins, Tony Gill, David Wilson and Deiniol Graham have gone elsewhere. Russell Beardsmore, whose midfield talent flickered excitingly during those early days, went on the transfer list a couple of weeks ago. Lee Martin is skippering the reserves. Giuliano Maiorana, an explosive left-winger, suffered a bad knee injury and hasn't played a game in three years, although he is still on the staff. Of them all, only Lee Sharpe - who was not, as it happens, a product of United's apprenticeship scheme, but was bought at 18 from Torquay - is now in the first-team squad.

Did Ferguson learn a lesson from these misfortunes? 'I'm very aware of it, put it that way. It's why last year we rested Giggs quite a lot, left him out of games. Andrei Kanchelskis, too, in his first season in English football.'

But no one, he says, gives you any credit for that. 'Resting' isn't in the English fan's vocabulary. If a lad's doing well, how can you leave him out? So he plays, and he plays, and he plays. And one day he's gone. Unless, perhaps, you're Alex Ferguson, and you've learnt a few hard lessons.

IT'S A RAINY Tuesday night in Bury, and the groundsman is going spare. He's got four games here this week, including a first-team match on Saturday, and his precious surface is starting to look like a half-eaten shepherd's pie: islands of dark-brown mud rise between sheets of water that reflect the yellow floodlights. Sliding tackles are covering the length of a cricket pitch. Passes are stopping yards short. Not a night for young thoroughbreds.

'This won't suit us,' says Alex Ferguson, wrapped up warm in the main stand while United's reserves struggle through the early stages of their match against Leicester City's second team. 'What you need when it's like this is strength. Look at them.' He gestures in the direction of the visiting blue shirts. 'Big lads.' From his point of view, there's nothing to be learnt here.

Ferguson began renting Bury's little ground for United's reserve matches last August, at the beginning of a season in which the fans expect him to repair the shattered dreams of the previous campaign. Among Ferguson's long list of reasons for United's calamitous last-ditch failure to win the league last year, alongside the fixture pile-up and a crop of injuries, was the state of the Old Trafford pitch. Now the grass in the theatre of dreams is being maintained in pristine condition for the present championship leaders.

Meanwhile, on the rapidly deteriorating surface of Gigg Lane, some of the red-shirted figures are familiar from more elevated surroundings - notably Lee Martin and Les Sealey, heroes of the 1990 FA Cup-winning side. But also in the starting line-up are a couple of last year's Youth Cup winners, the tall, composed midfield player Simon Davies and the left-back George Switzer, and a pair of this season's juniors, the midfielder Paul Scholes and the forward Robert Savage. Two more trainees come on in the second half: Gary Neville, up front, and David Beckham, in midfield. But Leicester's experienced team hang on to a 2-0 lead, and by the time the referee blows the final whistle, Alex Ferguson is already on the M62 in his Mercedes, radio tuned to the League Cup quarter-final between Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday.

He's talking about David Hirst, Wednesday's striker, whom United's fans, disappointed by Ferguson's failure to sign Alan Shearer last summer, would love to see in their colours. 'Hirst's got a lot of skill,' he's saying as Wednesday attack. 'But Shearer's so strong. He just knocks people out of the way. And Hirst gets a lot of injuries.'

The words are still in his throat when there's a sudden shout from the radio. Hirst is through, the goal at his mercy. But in the act of shooting he pulls a thigh muscle, and is carried from the field. Alex Ferguson sighs and shakes his head.

THE NEXT MORNING, United's young hopefuls are pulling on their boots at the Cliff, the club's training ground, three or four miles across Salford from Old Trafford. Amid the banter and the ball-juggling, the 17-year- old Gary Neville is being quizzed about last night's game.

'What was the score, Gaz?'

'Two-nil to them.'

'Did you get on?'

'Yeah, in the second half.'

'When it was nil-nil?'

'Nah. Two-nil down. I take no responsibility for the score.'

Mark Hughes, an older pro, walks stiffly by, a heavy bandage on his calf covering a wound closed by nine stitches, the legacy of a controversial tackle by the Queen's Park Rangers defender Alan McDonald two nights earlier. That, in an overheated match, was one of several incidents which led to a confrontation between Ferguson and QPR's manager, Gerry Francis. The echoes are still filling the back pages of the tabloids as, in his upstairs office at the Cliff, Alex Ferguson talks about what he found when he arrived at Manchester United at the end of 1986.

'The first vibe I got,' he says, 'was that Manchester City were getting the young players. So that was a challenge, right there. We set about it in quite a vigorous way. We increased the scouting throughout the city, and we brought in Brian Kidd, who'd been the local Football in the Community representative. Right from the start we were giving trials, and it was at one of those that we got Ryan Giggs. He was at City's school of excellence at the time, and fortunately he was only 13, and they couldn't sign him until he was 14. So maybe I came in at the right time.'

Ferguson is a notable believer in fate, but he tries not to leave too much to chance. So he started United's own schools of excellence, in the fertile ground of Durham and Belfast, one night a week for about 30 recommended boys aged 10 to 14. The idea was to let people know that United's youth scheme was back in business. 'It's really important to this club, to the supporters, to see young players coming through. The longer you're here, the better you understand that.' So he added 20-odd scouts to the staff, promoted Brian Kidd - scorer of a goal in United's 1968 European Cup final triumph over Benfica - to assistant manager with special responsibility for local talent, and hired Paul McGuinness - son of Wilf McGuinness, the 'favourite son' who briefly succeeded Matt Busby as manager in 1969 - as youth education officer. In charge of their accommodation, diet and entertainment, McGuinness also gives them training in handling everything from media to money. Now, Ferguson says, the club is spending pounds 80,000 on doing up a building at another training ground, 'so that they'll have a place for the evenings.'

He wants parents to see that this is a place where their boys will not only be looked after, but will get a real chance to make it to the top. 'You've got to do that. You've got a responsibility to any young player's parents, if they're going to sign for you. They're not all going to be top. That's asking for a miracle. But at least you want to be able to say, 'We've given you a career in football.' '

Paradoxically, in one sense, the life of a young star at Old Trafford is comparatively easy. 'There's a special pressure here on anyone who's in the first team,' Ferguson says, 'but it's easier for the young players because the crowd love them so much. It's harder here if you've been bought. The crowd are waiting in judgement: is he a Manchester United player, or not?'

Still, though, only two members of the present first team, Hughes and Giggs, are youth-scheme products - six years after Ferguson took over. Isn't that disappointing? 'Not really. It takes time. And the first group of players to get the benefit are the ones who're starting to emerge now. The whole thing can take five or six years to get in place - which is maybe why some clubs don't go down that road.'

Whatever happens with the youngsters, though, Ferguson will still play the transfer market. 'I think we should buy a player every year,' he says, 'to keep that edge on everyone, to make it obvious that we want to win things.'

I tell him what Fabio Capello, the Milan coach, had said to me a few weeks ago, that the era of the big squad at the big club means that everyone - manager as well as players - has to change his way of thinking. Capello, who is in charge of 24 first-team players, feels that the 'settled side' is an obsolete concept, given the accelerating pace of the game, the growing demands on the players' athleticism and the increasing number of injuries.

'Well, a settled side has helped us this season,' Ferguson replies. 'But I can see what he's getting at, especially if you want to maintain your success on all fronts. Getting a big squad together isn't the hardest thing. The job is to handle it. But it's a bit different in Italy, where they normally play only one game a week. When we come to the end of our season, we can find ourselves playing four games in six days, which is what happened last year. That's crazy. So it's usually based on simple mathematics - how many players you've got fit on a Saturday morning. And, in the main, our players understand that you've got a hard job picking the team, because they all want to play.'

WHEN HE behaves as he did at QPR on Monday night, when frustration suddenly overwhelms him and rage blanks his face, Alex Ferguson seems like a 51-year-old man with a problem. Then you wouldn't say he was any more likely than his five predecessors - McGuinness, O'Farrell, Docherty, Sexton and Atkinson - to step out of the shadow of the great Matt Busby.

In his own environment, though, he's warm and generous, very different from the fretful, defensive creature whose anxiety last year seemed to put extra pressure on his players when the crunch arrived. The difference now may be the arrival of Eric Cantona - who, Ferguson often says, has brought something to the club that hadn't been there before. What, exactly?

'Vision. All the best players in the world have imagination. They can see a picture that no one else can quite make out. Eric can see those things. His head's up, you know? The point is that anyone who comes to this club must cope with the expectation. Some players haven't done it, unfortunately - good players at their last club, who couldn't quite handle it because the stage can be a bit frightening. Eric's attitude is, 'This is where I should be]' It's more a question of us having to tailor the expectation to suit him . . .'

If his players succeed this spring, then perhaps Cantona's insouciance, his lack of nerves, will turn out to have made the difference - infecting his colleagues, dispelling the shadows of the past, enabling the talent to flower.

DM_7

Pj! wrote: »

As I said, you're experiencing hindsight bias.

You said you were giving credence to the SAF was pushed out theory based on things that happened since the retirement as well as his recent public statements. That is using hindsight. But you are also choosing to ignore other obvious things like the mans age and comments on how previous public retirement talk was a disaster.

Gorilla Rising

I'll be having a few drinks and celebrating for sure!

At the same though, every time the ball is kicked I'll be reminiscing of the memories I've had of supporting Sir Alex's teams over the years (I won't think too much about Big Ron today!!). So I'll see the game, but my mind will be elsewhere...

Here's to the greatest.

Pj!

DM-ICE wrote: »

You said you were giving credence to the SAF was pushed out theory based on things that happened since the retirement as well as his recent public statements. That is using hindsight. But you are also choosing to ignore other obvious things like the mans age and comments on how previous public retirement talk was a disaster.

I didn't ignore anything. My thoughts over time are below.

Pj! wrote: »

Whenever he does go, it is very likely to come out of the blue like this. It's not something that can be released or hinted at unofficially.

Pj! wrote: »

His comments last week in his column in the programme (think it was the programme anyway) saying that he was not retiring and that this was the start of something big and he was staying on are very strange. If he was asked I would fully expect him to reply like that as he'd have to. But to write it of his own accord is strange.
If anything forced him I'd guess it was health.

Today I was simply surprised to hear that he had dropped so many duties over the week. But as you say he is the magical age of 71 and having announced his retirement is entitled to.

Lovely Bloke

Two more trainees come on in the second half: Gary Neville, up front, and David Beckham, in midfield. But Leicester's experienced team hang on to a 2-0 lead

:eek:

No wonder it stayed 0-2

DM_7

Pj! wrote: »

Today I was simply surprised to hear that he had dropped so many duties over the week. But as you say he is the magical age of 71 and having announced his retirement is entitled to.

Okay

Pj! wrote: »

Just read that Fergie didn't take training Friday or Saturday. Nor did he contribute to the managers column in the match programme, for the first time. He avoided the normal Friday pre match press conference and nor did he appear on MUTV.
I really hope they didn't force the man out.

I took the above as - "Hmmm maybe they forced him out :eek:", rather than "I am surprised he dropped a few of his normal duties".

Blatter

Pj! wrote: »

Today I was simply surprised to hear that he had dropped so many duties over the week. But as you say he is the magical age of 71 and having announced his retirement is entitled to.

Gary Neville was saying today the reason he believes SAF has done no interviews since the announcement is because he wants to put it all in the speech today instead. Same could be said for the programme notes I suppose.

Pj!

Blatter wrote: »

Gary Neville was saying today the reason he believes SAF has done no interviews since the announcement is because he wants to put it all in the speech today instead. Same could be said for the programme notes I suppose.

I understand the Friday press thing totally from that point of view. But having reportedly not taken training the last couple of days and not contributed to the programme for the first time since he's been at the club I thought strange. But hey he's entitled to what he wants at this stage.

As long as he turns up this afternoon!

Blatter

Pj! wrote: »

I understand the Friday press thing totally from that point of view. But having reportedly not taken training the last couple of days and not contributed to the programme for the first time since he's been at the club I thought strange. But hey he's entitled to what he wants at this stage.

As long as he turns up this afternoon!

Yorke said he was around him yesterday and he was carrying on as normal. He said he went into to the room to study video footage of the opposition as he normally does!

Kylo Ren

Best commentating, EVER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHVAHFwPCEQ

Pj!

Blatter wrote: »

Yorke said he was around him yesterday and he was carrying on as normal. He said he went into to the room to study video footage of the opposition as he normally does!

Ah! Cool. I forget where I even read all that now. I should have stayed quiet!

Pj!

yermandan

Recently, I've been scoffing at grown men (like myself) being upset at Fergie retiring but today it hit me. I try to not get too emotional about football anymore as it ain't good for my health haha. But today is a special day and he deserves all of the plaudits and praise.

I really think that Moyes will be a MASSIVE success for United. He has the personality and drive and I think my kid will be posting something similar to this on Boards in years to come!!!!

#thankyousiralex

Timmyctc

Too much change