Reports that Pope is going to resign...

Bannasidhe

Stark wrote: »

Looks like it's not an angry god he's going to be hiding from: http://itccs.org/2013/02/14/pope-benedict-to-seek-immunity-and-protection-from-italian-president-giorgio-napolitano-on-february-23/

Wonder if himself and Julian will become pen pals?

runawaybishop

Stark wrote: »

Looks like it's not an angry god he's going to be hiding from: http://itccs.org/2013/02/14/pope-benedict-to-seek-immunity-and-protection-from-italian-president-giorgio-napolitano-on-february-23/

That's a pretty biased source, until its on more reputable sites i wouldn't take much heed of it.

robindch

kylith wrote: »

Very interesting, but I'm not going to believe it until I see it from a reputable source.

Neither would I and especially since there's been no news anywhere about this arrest warrant and nothing at all today, when it was supposed to be delivered (presumably he'd be just as guilty as elected pope, as soon-to-retire pope?). So, it's much more likely to be just bluster from some disaffected punter and a lucky coincidence of dates.

Still, though, its's peculiar that Ratzinger would announce that he's going to retire to a monastery within the Vatican grounds. That's not going to make things easier for his successor, unless of course as I mentioned above somewhere, he wanted to hang around, just slightly off-stage, to make sure that things continue to go the way he's had them going for the last few years.

Rob Humanoid

robindch wrote: »

Genius...That's classic!

MarkyMark22

This is incredible if true! The pope allegedly seeks immunity from child sex charges!

http://www.stuartwilde.com/2013/02/popeseeks-immunity-protection-from-italian-president/

Run_to_da_hills

Possible Contender for next pope who ticks the boxes for St Malachy's Prophecy of Popes.

Paddy Power 7/1.



Bertoni engineered the sacking of Gotti Tedeschi, who was head of the Vatican Bank last May. I believe that Ratsinger was also recently blackmailed into resignation by Bertoni in order to oust him out of office to that he could take over.

As I mentioned Cardinal Bertone's full name contains Pietro (Something omitted from Paddy Powers list of just 2 St Malachy's contenders) He is also from Romano a provence in Canavese Turino (A Roman). You put two and two together and you have "Peter the Roman". "Petrus Romanus"

From the Italian version of Wikipedia:

"Tarcisio Pietro Evasio Bertone (Romano Canavese, 2 dicembre 1934) è un cardinale e arcivescovo cattolico italiano. È Segretario di Stato Vaticano dal 2006 e ricopre dal 2007 la carica di Camerlengo di Santa Romana Chiesa."

From the English version of Wikipedia

English = Peter The Roman!.
Italian = Pietro Romano!
Latin = Petrus Romanus!




The anagram of "Tarcisio" spells "Iscariot" (Judas Iscariot). :eek:

The Devil is in the detail.

The Mad Hatter

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The Devil is in the detail.

You mean like the detail of you being fooled by a bad photoshop?

joseph brand

"Protecting paedophiles is a young man's game." Jimmy Dore

Bannasidhe

And we break for some light relief:

Run_to_da_hills

The uncanny Tarcisio / Iscariot anagram I am referring to

Hotblack Desiato

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Possible Contender for next pope who ticks the boxes for St Malachy's Prophecy of Popes.

Jayzes, no wonder he chose a life of celibacy.

Run_to_da_hills

ninja900 wrote: »

Jayzes, no wonder he chose a life of celibacy.

He reminds me of this.




This use to scare the crap out of me as a kid. (Cassells Book of knowledge)

Hotblack Desiato

Bannasidhe wrote: »

And we break for some light relief:

It is unrealistic and unreasonable to expect the Roman Catholic Church to embrace the 21st century when they have yet to enter the 20th

Bannasidhe

ninja900 wrote: »

It is unrealistic and unreasonable to expect the Roman Catholic Church to embrace the 21st century when they have yet to enter the 20th

I don't think they've entered the 18th yet judging by how Un-Enlightened they are.

I think they have PTSD from the Reformation...

sponsoredwalk

Stark wrote: »

Looks like it's not an angry god he's going to be hiding from: http://itccs.org/2013/02/14/pope-benedict-to-seek-immunity-and-protection-from-italian-president-giorgio-napolitano-on-february-23/

From the link:

In response to the February 23 meeting, the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS), through its field Secretary, Rev. Kevin Annett, has written to President Napolitano, asking him to refrain from assisting Ratzinger in evading justice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f-5Hn7daa0

Unrepentant documents Canada’s dirty secret – the planned genocide of aboriginal people in church-run Indian Residential Schools – and a clergyman’s efforts to document and make public these crimes.First-hand testimonies from residential school survivors are interwoven with Kevin Annett’s own story of how he faced firing, de-frocking, and the loss of his family, reputation and livelihood as a result of his efforts to help survivors and bring out the truth of the residential schools.
This saga continues, as Annett continues a David and Goliath struggle to hold the government and churches of Canada accountable for crimes against humanity, and the continued theft of aboriginal land.
Unrepentant took nineteen months to film, primarily in British Columbia and Alberta, and is based on Kevin Annett’s book Hidden from History: The Canadian Holocaust. The entire film was a self-funded, grassroots effort, which is reflected in its earthy and human quality.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/unrepentant-kevin-annett-canadas-genocide/

The Mad Hatter

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

ninja900 wrote: »

Jayzes, no wonder he chose a life of celibacy.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

He reminds me of this.

Hardly fair to say, considering that's another terrible photoshop job. (Why do you keep posting those anyway?)

Liamario

I hope they pick the worst pope ever. Of course, when I say they I mean god.

Bannasidhe

Liamario wrote: »

I hope they pick the worst pope ever. Of course, when I say they I mean god.

Given some of the charmers who have already been pope that is a tall order...

Rob Humanoid

Christ! He looks like Gollum. Look at his nice fat gold chain...'My precioussss...'.

Bannasidhe

M'thinks there is summat afoot.

Pope Benedict's decision to live in the Vatican after he resigns will provide him with security and privacy. It will also offer legal protection from any attempt to prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around the world, Church sources and legal experts say....

...Benedict is currently not named specifically in any other case. The Vatican does not expect any more but is not ruling out the possibility...

..."(If he lived anywhere else) then we might have those crazies who are filing lawsuits, or some magistrate might arrest him like other (former) heads of state have been for alleged acts while he was head of state," one source said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-pope-resignation-immunity-idUSBRE91E0ZI20130215

'those crazies'.... damn those loonies who think that those who control the running of an organisation should be ultimately responsible for the actions of their subordinates and held to account...





*****e, I have only 2 boxes of microwavable popcorn - hafta get more*

swampgas

Pope Benedict's decision to live in the Vatican after he resigns will provide him with security and privacy. It will also offer legal protection from any attempt to prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around the world, Church sources and legal experts say....

Maybe that other paragon of Catholic virtue, Tony Blair, could move in with him. The "crazies" are out to get him too.

Bannasidhe

The Vatican is raising the possibility that the conclave to elect the next pope might start earlier than March 15, the earliest date possible under current rules that require a 15-20 day waiting period after the papacy becomes vacant....

... He said the Vatican rules are open to interpretation and that "this is a question that people are discussing".

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/possible-early-conclave-mooted-29075836.html

Fixed that for them...

'He said the Vatican rules are open to interpretation when it suits our purpose.'

Golly gosh though, they are in a bit of a hurry arn't they?

Run_to_da_hills

Bannasidhe wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/possible-early-conclave-mooted-29075836.html

Fixed that for them...

'He said the Vatican rules are open to interpretation when it suits our purpose.'

Golly gosh though, they are in a bit of a hurry arn't they?

The fcukers probably have a stake in the bookies.

joseph brand

I read in the Herald, that Benny has an apartment down the end of the garden, behind the Vatican.

He will spend his remaining days deep in prayer, and he doesn't want to be disturbed while he is 'praying'.

I also heard that he's getting a fibre optic cable hooked up to his Alienware pc, so he can play his belf priest character in World of Warcraft, while simultaneously downloading a Terabyte of porn. He's got a lot of catching up to do.

Aquarius34

You don't want to say the Jesuits run the Vatican on the religious thread. I recently found out, that you're not supposed to say that over there. Here was me thinking I thought people know about this stuff. Is it even a secret to most people? It's 2013 yanno.

Lightening strikes the Vatican on the same day the Pope resigns, something is up.

Doctor DooM

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Lightening strikes the Vatican on the same day the Pope resigns, something is up.

Lightning strikes the earth between 1 and 8 million times a day, depending who you ask.

jhegarty

Bannasidhe wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/possible-early-conclave-mooted-29075836.html

Fixed that for them...

'He said the Vatican rules are open to interpretation when it suits our purpose.'

Golly gosh though, they are in a bit of a hurry arn't they?

The delay is normally to give time everyone time to travel to Rome. Not needed this time as for the first time in 600 years there is advance notice.

Bannasidhe

jhegarty wrote: »

The delay is normally to give time everyone time to travel to Rome. Not needed this time as for the first time in 600 years there is advance notice.

Oh, if only someone would invent some method of transportation that would allow the Cardinals to get to Rome in less than 15 days...

Back in 2005 when JP II died that trip on a slow boat must have been a trial...

Cork boy 55

Rob Humanoid wrote: »

Christ! He looks like Gollum. Look at his nice fat gold chain...'My precioussss...'.

He kinda looks like Will Ferrell

BTW
interesting username , Is this your birth planet?

wp_rathead

Don't know if anyone here listen's to The Bugle Podcast, but they did an hilarious take on the Pope saga this week. Well worth a download

Kivaro

From Saturday Night Live:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/retirement-ad/n32894/

Lingua Franca

He said the Vatican rules are open to interpretation

What? Since when? Isn't the intransigence of their rules their go-to excuse for refusing to modernise?

Nodin

Decent article that goes over the vatican leaks and the internal conflicts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/pope-benedict-xvis-leaked-documents-show-fractured-vatican-full-of-rivalries/2013/02/16/23ce0280-76c2-11e2-8f84-3e4b513b1a13_story.html?tid=ts_carousel

robindch

Conspiracy Theory Number 2:

Ratzinger resigned over the ongoing Marcial Maciel/Legion of Christ scandal:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/343750

I'm still going with the "advanced age + keep an eye on the next guy" reason.

Peregrinus

Not a terribly convincing conspiracy theory, I have to say, even according to the relatively low bar against which conspiracy theories are measured. Ratzinger is generally sees as the (comparatively) good guy in the Legion of Christ debacle - its an open secret that they were protected for years under Wotyla, who wouldn't hear a word against them, but Ratzinger (of course) had the dirt on them, and within months of his elevation Maciel was denounced and disgraced, and the Legion had Vatican "visitors" crawling all over it.

Bannasidhe

Pope Benedict the 16th has begun a week-long private spiritual retreat ahead of his resignation at the end of the month.

Benedict and some of his top cardinals will devote this week to daily prayers in a frescoed private chapel in the Apostolic Palace in the Vatican during Lent.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/benedict-begins-retreat-ahead-of-resignation-585189.htm

He's not even working out his notice.....:eek:

Any other cynic think 'Benedict and some of his top cardinals will devote this week to daily prayers' sounds like a lets get together and decide who gets the job session?

Nodin

Bannasidhe wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/benedict-begins-retreat-ahead-of-resignation-585189.htm

He's not even working out his notice.....:eek:

Any other cynic think 'Benedict and some of his top cardinals will devote this week to daily prayers' sounds like a lets get together and decide who gets the job session?

He's the Pope, for jaysus sake. Whats the point in getting Poped if you can't do what ye want?

Bannasidhe

Nodin wrote: »

He's the Pope, for jaysus sake. Whats the point in getting Poped if you can't do what ye want?

The fancy outfits?

Nodin

Bannasidhe wrote: »

The fancy outfits?

There is that, allright.

Doctor Strange

Bannasidhe wrote: »

The fancy fabulous outfits?

FYP

Bannasidhe

Unforgettable _ Fire wrote: »

FYP

A photo gallery of 10 of Benny's most fab-u-lous outfits - that hat in photo 2 does nothing for him. Serious style error.

http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1730229_1564026,00.html


One really couldn't make this up

Brian Shanahan

Peregrinus wrote: »

Not a terribly convincing conspiracy theory, I have to say, even according to the relatively low bar against which conspiracy theories are measured. Ratzinger is generally sees as the (comparatively) good guy in the Legion of Christ debacle - its an open secret that they were protected for years under Wotyla, who wouldn't hear a word against them, but Ratzinger (of course) had the dirt on them, and within months of his elevation Maciel was denounced and disgraced, and the Legion had Vatican "visitors" crawling all over it.

You know, in any other walk of life the right thing to do would have been shopping Maciel to the police as and when he got the incriminatory evidence, not waiting around until his boss popped his clogs, and even then, just slapping him on the wrist.

Why is it that in the catholic church such reprehensible inactivity (both before and after Ratzinger was elevated to papacy) is to be applauded?

Brian Shanahan

Bannasidhe wrote: »

The fancy outfits?

The hot monks that tend his private swimming pool, in more ways than one;)

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He is granted immunity by staying in the Vatican. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/17/pope-immunity_n_2708518.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

Bannasidhe

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Well said.

Posts are miraculously switching not only threads - but whole forums

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

De end is neigh!!!!!!

Bannasidhe

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Posts are miraculously switching not only threads - but whole forums

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

De end is neigh!!!!!!

AND DISAPPEARING..... :eek:




The post down there was up there ^^ ..... that's it -I'm making me a tinfoil hat...in the shape of a swan.

Run_to_da_hills

[-0-] wrote: »

He is granted immunity by staying in the Vatican. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/17/pope-immunity_n_2708518.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

seems to be the crux of it, benny don't want to face the music so he'll bravely hide in the vatican rather than face charges over the child abuse cases.

real a paragon of morality, an example to us all in how a good catholic should deal with the problems in life, deny everything and hide.

Well said.

And Benny not so long ago stated that the Catholic Church was the one true church.

(I wonder if he was inflammable when he came out with that statement. )

Nodin

Bannasidhe wrote: »

A photo gallery of 10 of Benny's most fab-u-lous outfits - that hat in photo 2 does nothing for him. Serious style error.

http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1730229_1564026,00.html


One really couldn't make this up

2 - in no way creepy.....

Peregrinus

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

You know, in any other walk of life the right thing to do would have been shopping Maciel to the police as and when he got the incriminatory evidence, not waiting around until his boss popped his clogs, and even then, just slapping him on the wrist.

Why is it that in the catholic church such reprehensible inactivity (both before and after Ratzinger was elevated to papacy) is to be applauded?

So far as I know, Maciel's sexual misbehaviour was with adults of full age - not a crime.

Nodin

Peregrinus wrote: »

So far as I know, Maciel's sexual misbehaviour was with adults of full age - not a crime.

....alas, no.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/belief/legion-christ-pope-benedict-marcial-maciel