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Group Buy - Bore-Tech Cleaning rods

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    On Friday evening i checked the UPS site as the packages never arrived. There was an "Exception" marked on the tracking info. When i tried to call UPS ireland were closed. So i contacted Bore-Tech, and Jesse was on the ball as usual.

    Simple problem, and was easily fixed. The Irish post system caused a little problem because we don't have zip codes or postal codes. To avoid this i supplied my full address, numerous contact details, and even GPS co-ordinates to the house. However it was quickly cleared up, and i made a phone call to UPS today to confirm everything was okay.

    The chap told me that the packages were marked "out" this afternoon,meaning they were being collected for delivery tomorrow (Tuesday). So all going well we'll have them tomorrow. As for time i was only told before the end of the day. So i'm house bound all day while i wait for them.


    When they arrive i'll post again and make arrangements for collection. It'll have to be in person as none of us want extra charges for further postage, etc. considering we have not yet found out if VAT/Duty is going to be an issue.

    In relation to collection i'll have a poke around yer profiles, and PMs, and see if i can arrange for one big meet up or multiple meet ups over the course of the week that suits ye, and me (IOW not too much driving for any of us).

    Hopefully will be posting tomorrow with "THEY ARRIVED" so till then..........................
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Tikkat3


    Cass wrote: »
    "THEY ARRIVED"


    and without undue attention :D

    Thanks so much Cass!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭renandstimpy


    we could all meet up in mayo :D:D:D:D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I was thinking my driveway..................... :P


    Although that means me getting out of the chair so it might be easier to have a "drive thru". Pull up to the living room window, and i'll hand out yer order.

















    Do you want fries with that. :D
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭renandstimpy


    and dont forget the portion of curry :D:D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Can't have chips without the curry sauce.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Tikkat3


    Cass wrote: »
    Can't have chips without the curry sauce.

    Drooool! A man after my own heart there! Never had one ordered without the other to drown it in :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Good news - The order has arrived. just gone through it, and everything seems in order. There is one issue with a pack of brass brushes. It was meant to be a 3pk, but seems to be a single brush. In the grand scheme of things not a major issue, but i have contacted Bore-Tech, and am waiting on a reply for how to get the other two brushes.


    Bad news - We got hit for Duty & Taxes. Was expected really. The cost was almost exactly what i projected it would be with the exception there was an additional €15 "handling surcharge" which is a bit of a joke. However i'm not going to try and divide that among the lot of us so the original amounts is sent to you all is what is needed. I've paid all the charges, and will collect the respective amounts from each person when we meet up.


    I'e only just finished checking the order so am now going through the order to split off into the individual orders. It'll take a little time, but i'll make contact this evening (late this evening :D) when i have them sorted to arrange collection/meet ups.


    Will do a review then later of the entire process to give others an idea of how it went, and what to expect when dealing with the companies in question.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    All the orders are split up, and ready to go.

    If lads could contact me via PM with their area so i can "bunch ye off", let me know when suits (day/time), and i'll try to sort out meet up times.
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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Now that it is over i though i'd do a quick review of the entire process.

    Bore - Tech

    Could not have been happier with my treatment from them. From the offer to "mock build" the order to give an idea of shipping, to the instant & rapid responses to all e-mails, and queries they were a pleasure to deal with. Friendly service, and professional while not too "rigid" in their dealings. Overall an excellent company to deal with.


    UPS

    We were unlucky in this regard. The size of the order meant normal postage was out. Not a fault of UPS, but still a gripe. The cost of shipping was actually very fair. Considering the size of the parcels/packages. The tracking system was great and allowed me to follow the packages every step.

    If there were any complaints it would be this.
    • Not all countries have zip codes or post codes. Considering the drivers are Irish and used to the postal system here the hiccup with them not being able to "identify" the address was silly, and resulted in a two day delay.
    • Secondly, the charges for VAT & Duty. We know we are going to get hit with them so why leave it until the driver is at my door to inform me of the price. Only for i made up the costs myself (based on previous experience with such charges) i could have been left without my delivery for a few days while i went got money and arranged an alternate delivery day. So IOW advanced notice of the charges.

    Other than that not a bad word to say. They were quick (delay included), and while the VAT & Duty is not their fault the shipping price from them was good.


    VAT & Duty & Charges

    An unfortunate cost in most dealings nowadays. The goods were charged at 23% VAT and 3.4% Duty. This is taken on the total amount of both the goods, and the shipping which is a fecking joke (paying VAT & duty on shipping we're already paying for :rolleyes: ). Then there is a surcharge for the handling of the goods while they work out how best to shaft you. That cost €14.50, and i had to pay VAT on that too.


    So if ordering be prepared to pay these amounts. Factor them into total costs, and decide if it's worth ordering when everything is totaled up.




    Summary

    Overall i'm happy enough (as i hope the lads are) with the entire process. I checked other sites, and avenues for the gear including European shops, but it worked out cheaper to order from the states even factoring in shipping, and customs. For example UK prices were nearly double that of American prices when conversion rates of the different currencies were taken into account. If it were for one rod/one person, i'd buy locally. The shipping for one rod alone, from the states, is in the region of $80+ due to size (not weight). So the group buy made things cheaper for everyone.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭demonloop


    Can I ask someone (when they get a chance) to let me know the cost of a rod including shipping, duty and VAT?

    In rough terms.

    I have a UK source for these but would like to see how much cheaper it would be to buy from the US.

    I imagine shipping to N Ireland would be comparable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 zaitsev


    PM Sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭renandstimpy


    pm sent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    Ok we have the cleaning rods ,guides,patches etc, now we need a contact for some decent oils ,foam and lubricants ,most dealers just have cans of gun oil on the shelf.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,743 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    No promises, but if lads can post up what products they want i'll see if i can source a supplier that does most if not all of them, and try get a group buy going.

    The states is almost impossible. Even if you find a supplier willing to ship most products are being stopped at customs on their side due to restrictions on exporting chemicals/liquids. However there are numerous EU suppliers that could be used. I just need the most popular brands.

    If i can get a good list i'll start another thread to keep it tidy.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭SVI40


    Cass wrote: »
    No promises, but if lads can post up what products they want i'll see if i can source a supplier that does most if not all of them, and try get a group buy going.

    I'd be interested in Butch's Bore Shine.

    Regards,

    SVI40


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭fiestaman


    Id like to say a big thanks to cass for a very well organised buy. everything as i wanted. there was a lot of work in it and fair play. Thanks


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