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Maryanne40

As an amputee myself I'm a big fan of Oscar Pistorius and am very sad to hear of this. Can I just say that as much as a lot of amputees are very able bodied wearing prostheses, these come off at night.....Oscar can't just jump up out of bed and run/defend himself etc. With my prosthesis nobody would even know I have any issue....without it I am disabled and vulnerable.

MurdyWurdy

Knowing what violent crime is like in South Africa hearing of someone shooting first and asking questions later does not surprise me at all. Very sad.

Rascasse

Hmm.

Police neighbours heard shouting/disturbance earlier in the night.

Police have been called to property before for "domestic incidents".

Police don't know where the 'mistaken for a burglar' line came from (insinuating its not true and just press speculation).

Things not looking good for Oscar.

Mushy

Police saying there were reports of domestic incidents at his address before.

Fizman

MurdyWurdy wrote: »

Knowing what violent crime is like in South Africa hearing of someone shooting first and asking questions later does not surprise me at all. Very sad.

Very true.

I'm just after breaking the news to my SA colleague (he is from Johannesburg - comes over and back several times per year) beside me. His first reaction was "Ah no", but he then went on to describe how this is a very real possibility.

It's not the first time this kind of thing has happened a high profile sports person over there.

"Former Springbok kills daughter in mistake for thief".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/25/southafrica.rugbyunion

cheesefiend

Such a sad story, I followed him through the summer games and thought he was a brilliant role model. Can't believe it, absolutely devastating for him. How could you get over that?

StephenHendry

really sad to hear this, i admire the guy. south africa has a reputation of being a violent country, a cousin of mine used to live there and its not the most pleasant a lot of the time, like others have said im sure its a case of him trying to defend himself in tragic circumstances

Green Diesel

BBC: South African police will be opposing bail for Oscar Pistorius and say there are "other witnesses" to the shooting.

shed head

sounds ropey to me, does he sleep with his gun?? Domestic makes more sense! But innocent until proven guilty etc etc

pickarooney

Fizman wrote: »

It's not the first time this kind of thing has happened a high profile sports person over there.

"Former Springbok kills daughter in mistake for thief".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/may/25/southafrica.rugbyunion

Sounds like a freakishly accurate shot :eek:
Still, there's no excuse for shooting to kill someone who's leaving your property, surely?

Fizman

shed head wrote: »

sounds ropey to me, does he sleep with his gun?? Domestic makes more sense! But innocent until proven guilty etc etc

If you.....

1. Lived in a country with an incredibly high crime / murder / rape rate and

2. Had no legs to begin with

you'd probably sleep with a gun under your pillow too.

I know I would.

MurdyWurdy

Fizman wrote: »

If you.....

1. Lived in a country with an incredibly high crime / murder / rape rate and

2. Had no legs to begin with

you'd probably sleep with a gun under your pillow too.

I know I would.

Yes, it wouldn't be unusual for people to sleep with weapons under their bed. Even as a teenager my husband slept with a baseball bat within easy reach.

The story does sound fishy in some ways but I think people need to realise just how dangerous some parts of SA are. Where my husband's family are from (south of Joburg) you cannot walk anywhere because you will be mugged. If you are wearing jewellery and you pop down to the shops it will be ripped off you. Car jackings are common and you don't stop at traffic lights at night. If his cousin's gf visits him and then drives home, he has to drive home in his own car after her to make sure he gets home safely.

People bitch so much about Ireland but sometimes, we don't know how lucky we are. I wouldn't live in SA for all the money in the world.

my friend

Oscar revealed his dark side to us in London, jealousy, anger and short temper were on display.

I am not surprised by his actions.

Havermeyer

It doesn't sound good at all.

Former calls to the house by police for alleged domestic abuse, and the opposition of bail.

The mistaken identity claims seemed a little suspect, imo. And if the the reports about 4/5 shots fired are true, that seems a little excessive to me.

I'm sure we'll find out soon enough anyway.

Tragic story though, whatever the facts may be.

Wattle

tigger123 wrote: »

Its such a pity they got rid of apartheid, eh?

He's right. I've been to South Africa and security is all people talk about. Most people have large ferocious dogs and electric fences. I heard some really scary stories. Murdering the occupants of a house that your robbing is pretty commonplace.

Micky Dolenz

Mod

No more jokes please. They aren't funny.

To the posters bitching and moaning about the jokes. Not one post was reported.

That is the only funny thing about this thread.

MurdyWurdy

Wattle wrote: »

He's right. I've been to South Africa and security is all people talk about. Most people have large ferocious dogs and electric fences. I heard some really scary stories. Murdering the occupants of a house that your robbing is pretty commonplace.

My husband's family all have big dogs and they regularly get poisoned so people can break into the houses - makes me so sad

paddy147

Could this be the next OJ Simpson style murder case/trial???

wazzer1

Charged with murder according to Rte. There was witnesses.

Blisterman

paddy147 wrote: »

Could this be the next OJ Simpson style murder case/trial???

If that's the case, he'll be let off when it turns out the bloodstained blade doesn't fit him.

mike65

Living in a world of high walls, electric fences, armed patrols and still someone manages to shoot their loved one by accident assuming they are being burgled. If this is the case you'd have to wonder about the girlfriend thinking a surprise would be a good idea.

My name is URL

Police are saying that they have no idea why people are assuming it was an accidental shooting

also...

Just hours after news of the incident became public, police have told eNews Channel Africa that there have been allegations of previous incidents of a “domestic nature” at the home of Oscar Pistorius.

http://www.thejournal.ie/oscar-pistorius-shooting-girlfriend-795031-Feb2013/

Forgive me for not having much sympathy for the guy at the minute

Andy-Pandy

What a shame, whatever happened may she RIP. Poor girl.

Rascasse

A rather unfortunate advert, now removed from his website.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDDgpuqCIAA37TO.jpg:large

2ndcoming

It offends me that I don't know on whom's behalf I should be taking offence.

And I'm also offended that in the event that I find that I have, in fact, no reason to take offence, I'm not allowed use one of the 53 pun-based quips that have popped into my head in the past hour, for fear of offending someone else.

As a great man once said to a permiter guard at Oxegen many moons ago, "if I took a fence would you take offence?"

Fizman

Rascasse wrote: »

A rather unfortunate advert, now removed from his website.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDDgpuqCIAA37TO.jpg:large

Nike are having a tough time of it lately re their clients.

paddy147

So if it isnt an accident..then why then did he shoot her???

Was it an arguement/fight that got of control and he went nutts?

Was she seeing someone else and he found out?

Did Oscar have this all planned in advance??

IamtheWalrus

cheesefiend wrote: »

absolutely devastating for him. How could you get over that?

For him!!?

amacca

Fizman wrote: »

Nike are having a tough time of it lately re their clients.

Yeah, poor old Nike..I really feel for them and their marketing/advertising department!

Such a fall from grace........

seamus

Maryanne40 wrote: »

Oscar can't just jump up out of bed and run/defend himself etc.

That's a great point that I hadn't even considered. I imagine an amputee would feel especially vulnerable in the presence of a (possible) intruder.

The one thing this incident does provide is yet another example of why allowing people to arm themselves for protection against intruders is a monumentally idiotic idea.

wonderboysam

Looks like Oscar went.....
.
.
.. Wilde


YEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!

opinion guy

Terrrible story. I was a big fan of Oscar. Not anymore.
RIP to Reeva Steenkamp.


I am forced to note on this thread - many boardsies are reacting with shock that someone would shoot an intruder first and ask questions later (if that is what happened - which I doubt). Everytime a thread comes up on gun control or home defence most of the people on thread say they will do the same. Well which is it boardsies ?

IamtheWalrus

Is all this sympathy because he is white?

frag420

South African police have released an image of a weapon similar to the one used by pistorius...

http://m.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2009/01/02/pagesix/photos_galleries/G2063_photo37.jpg

seamus

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is all this sympathy because he is white?

Fairly sure if Usain Bolt was the headliner here, the sympathy and shock would be even greater.

Why the obsessive need to bring colour into everything?

UrbanSea

BEST THREAD TITLE EVER

TheIrishGrover

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is all this sympathy because he is white?

Yes. Because EVERY person here is a racist and would be calling for his execution if he was black. Amazing, you got us in one!

Jesus Christ

inforfun

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is all this sympathy because he is white?

No, because she was......

When the news broke out, the story was that he thought he was shooting an intruder in stead of his girlfriend
Of course if that would have been the truth, people show sympathy.

Now a few hours later however, it all seems to have happened a bit different and that is probably when you started hearing about it and cant understand the sympathy.

MurdyWurdy

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is all this sympathy because he is white?

What has race got to do with it? It hasn't been mentioned or even alluded to in this entire thread. He's a person many people admire, therefore it is interesting that he shot someone, that's all there is too it.

Jesus, what is wrong with some people?

Mushy

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is all this sympathy because he is white?

I think the sympathy came before it was clarified that it wasnt a burglar, and he may have known what he was doing.

TheIrishGrover

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is all this sympathy because he is white?

Do you assume that we have sympathy for a white person over a person of a different colour because we are white?


There's a word for that.

Get your sh1t together. You were the FIRST person to mention his colour.

Slideshowbob

hmm - it happened at 4am! the time all good valentine suprises start

Slideshowbob

MurdyWurdy wrote: »

What has race got to do with it? It hasn't been mentioned or even alluded to in this entire thread. He's a person many people admire, therefore it is interesting that he shot someone, that's all there is too it.

Jesus, what is wrong with some people?

Must say I never admired him.

There was always questions about the fairness of his prostetics versus full bodies athletes.

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/08/london-2012-pistorius-and-unfair.html

amacca

seamus wrote: »

The one thing this incident does provide is yet another example of why allowing people to arm themselves for protection against intruders is a monumentally idiotic idea.

I'm not sure it proves that at all tbh

I'm fairly sure that I wouldn't be even the slightest bit reassured by the fact I was helping reduce gun fatalities if I had nothing to defend myself with if someone broke into my property at night......someone who at best is a thief and at worst could be a homocidal rapist for all I know

I wouldn't go looking for trouble and would be happy (well maybe not happy but I would let it pass) to let them take what they wanted, excluding family members as long as they left peacefully (as its insured and not worth the risk if it isn't)

The problem is thats not enough for some - I would not allow myself to be restrained etc because i have no idea what they would do to me or mine if that happened ...... To advocate being totally defenceless (and not being armed is being totally defenceless at that moment with some types of intruders) if a situation like that were to occur would be monumentally idiotic imho thats why I think it should go without saying I should not only be allowed defend myself in my own home but arm myself to do so

If it turns out he deliberately planned this - how would that prove your point that its stupid to allow people to arm themselves to defend themselves in their own home - If he didn't use a gun he may have used something other weapon like a knife from the cutlery drawer - is it monumentally idiotic to allow people to have potentially lethal breadknives in the home?

Anyway whatever happened I'm not at all sure it specifically backs up your point.

Lollipops23

Slideshowbob wrote: »

hmm - it happened at 4am! the time all good valentine suprises start

I was wondering about that alright- tbh sneaking into your boyfriend's house in the middle of the night is pretty creepy! I'd never have done it, not because it would scare the crap out of him, but because it's just plain weird...

wadacrack

Distasteful thread title. If this happened in Ireland people would not be a quick with their "jokes"

DipStick McSwindler

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celticcrash

If he gets bail, he might leg it.

Witcher

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

4 Shots, 2 of them were to the head. You don't pump 4 round into an "Intruder" without seeing them at least after the first 2.

Definite Murder.

Thank you detective..case closed then:pac:

Duggys Housemate

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is all this sympathy because he is white?

I am not in the least bit sympathetic to him, I think the story is a fabrication, but I would say no.

Still the sympathy has to be explained. I would say

1) He was an icon at the last olympics. A disabled guy who could compete at the top level with the "abled".
2) The original reports all came out with the intruder story ( which makes no sense to me as I explained already). So most people, sympathetic from 1), took that as gospel when it was editorializing rather than reporting.

Whats forgotten in this is there is a dead woman, it's a tragedy for her and her family, but not necessarily for him.