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robinph

The Road Runner wrote: »

it's on there now

Just a bit og background noise so far, but ...

andrew harding &#8207 wrote: »

Magistrate's #OscarPistorius ruling could take an hour to deliver. Am told he has a habit of quoting Shakespeare.

The Road Runner

robinph wrote: »

Just a bit og background noise so far, but ...

yeah just jacked it in for sky news. forgot i could get that on the web too

seeminly thats just audio too

Micky Dolenz

Mod

Opinion guy and fishy fishy, give it a break will ye, please.

This thread is going well, lets not ruin it with back and forth bickering.

General warning to all, we'll thread ban people if we have to.

Thanks.

fishy fishy

ok, mod.

fishy fishy

i reckon if he gets bail, he's gonna run.

robinph

He does like talking this guy...

Quoting some old cases to explain where the principle of granting bail came from in 1917 cases in South Africa.

opinion guy

He is starting to sound cranky with the prosecution for even trying to establish guilt

jaze, judge Im ageing here , get on with it

opinion guy

Adjourned!!!!

Argh this guy could host Who Wants to be a Millionairre!

robinph

Saying he isn't convinced by the schedule 6 claim because the state only has circumstantial evidence for the pre-meditated charge.

But, I think he then said he was sticking with the schedule 6 despite that.

The Road Runner

Looks like he's going to give him bail i'd say

Mental Mickey

opinion guy wrote: »

Adjourned!!!!

Argh this guy could host Who Wants to be a Millionairre!

He knows the camera's are on him. Like the guy who presided over the OJ Simpson trial. Enjoying his moment in the spotlight.

TwoBirds

Not sounding great for Pistorius as the magistrate outlines the conditions of bail etc...

gramar

The defence said their would be 'widespread shock' if he wasn't granted bail. A bit of an exaggeration I think.

If he does get bail which I expect he will how much would it be? Hundreds of thousands? A few million?

Ava_e

He aint gonna get it

opinion guy

Mental Mickey wrote: »

He knows the camera's are on him. Like the guy who presided over the OJ Simpson trial. Enjoying his moment in the spotlight.

Indeed - but I think there may also be an element of making a point to do absolutely everything by the book so he doesn't end up publicly embarassed like Officer Hitlon Botha

robinph

Can't guess which way he's going yet.

opinion guy

Ripping into Hitlon Botha now

Seachmall

gramar wrote: »

The defence said their would be 'widespread shock' if he wasn't granted bail. A bit of an exaggeration I think.

If he does get bail which I expect he will how much would it be? Hundreds of thousands? A few million?

Possibly a few million rand (divide it by 10 to get an estimate of it's euro value).

robinph

Now he's having a go at Botha and explains how crap a policeman he is.

robinph

Dodger on twitter wrote:

‏@CrustyOldsod
I wonder if the magistrates wife gets pissed off when she asks him, what do want for dinner ? #oscarpistorius

.

viper006

Its truly staggering, how much of a idiot this cop is. Just cant see him being denied bail the more the judge talks

opinion guy

viper006 wrote: »

Its truly staggering, how much of a idiot this cop is. Just cant see him being denied bail the more the judge talks

Come May I'm sure sky will be reporting on Botha's trial!

seamus

It's hard to tell which way he's going.

The judge makes the good point that Botha isn't the prosecutor, just the guy who was first on the scene - he's not necessarily the appropriate nor most experienced person to make the state's case. So Botha's incompetence alone is not enough to say the prosecution is crap.

opinion guy

I think he will oppose bail

opinion guy

opinion guy wrote: »

Ripping into Hitlon Botha now

yeah, he really tore him a new asshole. He'll be lucky to get a security job at a shopping center when this is all over

Seachmall

Jake1 wrote: »

yeah, he really tore him a new asshole. He'll be lucky to get a security job at a shopping center when this is all over

I'd say he'll be lucky to get bail in his own case.

opinion guy

Seachmall wrote: »

I'd say he'll be lucky to get bail in his own case.

Definite flight risk ....if he even hangs around long enough

The Road Runner

sounds like he is openly contemplating and hasn't reached a decision yet himself

opinion guy

Oh he is taking the piss now

TwoBirds

Christ! Every time I think he's on the verge of denying bail, he switches.

The Road Runner

lol seamus. i don't think the judge knows himself yet

opinion guy

FYI there is all sorts of **** coming out on other athletes whilst this case has been going on - Australian swim team in trouble, some Kenyans just got suspended for doping. Lance Armstrong could have been found unconscious in a mountain of epo and noone would have noticed with all the press in SA :pac:

viper006

did some idiot say it was denied so he could write it here first before listening to the rest of judges statement?

robinph

viper006 wrote: »

did some idiot say it was denied so he could write it here first before listening to the rest of judges statement?

I thought it was decided at that point as well, but then the magistrate carried on and started going in the other direction again.

robinph

No flight risk, so that is at least decided by him.

seamus

He's going to grant it. Reckons OP will not be a flight risk or a public safety risk.

lol seamus. i don't think the judge knows himself yet

I was convinced he had effectively denied it.

This guy just goes on and on doesn't he?

The Road Runner

viper006 wrote: »

did some idiot say it was denied so he could write it here first before listening to the rest of judges statement?

thats not on dude. it sounded like he was saying that at the time

robinph

Think he's about to say that he is not a risk of further violence...but then again.

kraggy

Where are following this? Guardian? Telegraph?

ollie1

Sky News

opinion guy

kraggy wrote: »

Where are following this? Guardian? Telegraph?

BBC - live twitter feed here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21543284

live video feed here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21544275

Seachmall

"I find..."

BAIL GRANTED!

"However..."

BAIL DENIED!

"In saying that..."

BAIL GRANTED!

"But again..."

BAIL DENIED!

seamus

Live audio feed here too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JZB3pwgxvY&feature=youtu.be (thanks to robinph)

SmokeyEyes

On Sky News...

Think he'll let him out on bail from the sounds of it

robinph

opinion guy wrote: »

BBC - live twitter feed here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21543284

live video feed here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21544275

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/barrybateman
https://twitter.com/BBCAndrewH

Dontfadeaway

It sounds like bail will be granted from what he is saying.

TwoBirds

I feel like I'd have a reasonable shot at passing a bar exam after listening to this.

The Road Runner

seamus wrote: »

He's going to grant it. Reckons OP will not be a flight risk or a public safety risk.

I was convinced he had effectively denied it.

This guy just goes on and on doesn't he?

had to think about that one. Xavi6 wha??

a walk in the judges mind all right. if i was to throw a fiver on it i'd say he'll give him bail. only a fiver mind

seamus

Dontfadeaway wrote: »

It sounds like bail will be granted from what he is saying.

Nah man, we've been here before. He's about to start going negative again