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robinph

Seachmall wrote: »

"I find..."

BAIL GRANTED!

"However..."

BAIL DENIED!

"In saying that..."

BAIL GRANTED!

"but in a case in 1873...

"But again..."

BAIL DENIED!



Is this guy completely incapable of making clear concise points?

FYP

ArmaniJeanss

Bail/NoBail would make a great in-running betting heat with this judge.

opinion guy

Have I got a lifeline ???

Can I phone a friend Chris ???

kraggy

One feels that the judge realises this is his 15 mins of fame and he wants to make the most of it.

opinion guy

kraggy wrote: »

One feels that the judge realises this is his 15 mins of fame and he wants to make the most of it.

15 mins ??!?!?!:eek:
Its what 2 hours now !!! :P

ProudDUB

Jesus, Dublin, Kerry & Donegal have all gone on and won another All Ireland, Amy Huberman had had another baby and oh yeah, all fiscal austerity has ended since this guy started speaking !

seamus

The judge gets paid double time after 4pm and he's just making the most of it. Does look like he's going to grant it, going by the cases he's calling on for precedence.

The Road Runner

passing the book?

opinion guy

I'm actually reading the start of his speech in a history book right now

robinph

No flight risk,
No threat of further offences.
No threat of public disorder.
...

Seachmall

"In conclusion, my absolute final decision on the matter on whether or not to grant bail has been made. It is here by my judgement that the accused, Oliver Pistorius, should..."














"...understand my decision was not an easy one. It was one that relied on many aspects of the prosecutions case and the defenses. With regard to..."



Oh fuck this bullshit.

Mental Mickey

kraggy wrote: »

One feels that the judge realises this is his 15 mins of fame and he wants to make the most of it.

Yup

kraggy

This is incredible.

He hasn't a clue what to do. He's scared ****less. He's now wondering what reaction there will be. I've never heard of a judge taking that in to account in respect of bail.

Surely bail should be a legal decision and not a popularity issue?

seamus

Bail has been granted.

Shouts of joy in the room, no doubt from the defence's side.

paddy147

BAIL GRANTED

I wonder will he have 24/7 armed security when he goes back to his training next week????

ProudDUB

FINALLY !

The Road Runner

Judge MacCruiskeen

robinph

Bail granted.

The Road Runner

he got it

kraggy

Bail Granted!!!!!!

fishy fishy

he'll be on the run so. (no pun intended)

robinph

I thought he was about to go,

"I therefore decide to...

can we stop for a recess for a moment?"

Micky Dolenz

This is pure madness. Better then any soap opera

ProudDUB

That's it then so...

....tries to get up off sofa...

....see barnacles growing on ass....

....dammit....

paddy147

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

This is pure madness. Better then any soap opera

OJ Simpson eat your heart out...:pac::pac::D

The Road Runner

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

This is pure madness. Better then any soap opera

you'd hope. missed neighbours on the head of it :pac:

seamus

The trial for this is going to be something else altogether.

viper006

Had a feeling he was going to get bail alright but The prosecution have alot of work to do if they are going to prove it premediated.

If he cant be found guilty on that at the trial , will he still get charged for a lesser degree murder?

jesus, my nails grew six inches during that.:eek:

fullstop

Idiot on SSN who came to support him "we know he's innocent and now it's proven". Hadn't realised that was the trial :rolleyes:

seamus

viper006 wrote: »

Had a feeling he was going to get bail alright but The prosecution have alot of work to do if they are going to prove it premediated.

If he cant be found guilty on that at the trial , will he still get charged for a lesser degree murder?

Depends on what they charge him for ultimately.

It will either be a case of murder or culpable homicide, that much seems clear to everyone. Culpable homicide is effectively manslaughter.

As the judge pointed out, it's far too early days for the prosecution to be able to say with great certainty what their case will be based on. When it goes to trial they may decide to forget about murder altogether and see if Pistorius will agreed to plead guilty to culpable homicide.

At the trial he could be charged with the murder, but the judge could still choose to find him guilty of CH without another trial.

califano

The fix is on

kraggy

Anywhere have a live feed from outside the courthouse? I tried skynews.com but they don't.

His getaway is going to be immense. There'll be hundreds of press motorbikes/cars after him.

viper006

fullstop wrote: »

Idiot on SSN who came to support him "we know he's innocent and now it's proven". Hadn't realised that was the trial :rolleyes:

Ya what a tool. i didnt find it pleasant hearing the shouts of joy from his family either. The guy has taken the life of a woman be it accidentially or on purpose and has ruined many lives either way. I guess the judge built it up so much it was an outburst of emotion

robinph

kraggy wrote: »

Anywhere have a live feed from outside the courthouse? I tried skynews.com but they don't.

His getaway is going to be immense. There'll be hundreds of press motorbikes/cars after him.

The BBC have a camera on a door.

opinion guy

viper006 wrote: »

Ya what a tool. i didnt find it pleasant hearing the shouts of joy from his family either. The guy has taken the life of a woman be it accidentially or on purpose and has ruined many lives either way. I guess the judge built it up so much it was an outburst of emotion

Yeah I thought that was bad also. Apparently the yes you could here was OP himself. Hmmmm:mad:

srm23

does this mean you can do whatever you want as long as you've no legs

fishy fishy

viper006 wrote: »

Ya what a tool. i didnt find it pleasant hearing the shouts of joy from his family either. The guy has taken the life of a woman be it accidentially or on purpose and has ruined many lives either way. I guess the judge built it up so much it was an outburst of emotion

wow, shouting for joy when there is a body lying in a grave because of him. As I say, he'll be on the run now - I don't think he'll be hanging round for the truth to come out.

robinph

srm23 wrote: »

does this mean you can do whatever you want as long as you've no legs

No.

He has been granted bail, nothing more.

kraggy

srm23 wrote: »

does this mean you can do whatever you want as long as you've no legs

That would be an anatomical matter Father.

SmokeyEyes

I hope for the poor girl and her families sake that it was an accident which although devastating, is easier to take than knowing she was murdered.

My gut feeling is that something is off though, if he got the gun from under the bed on her side how did he not notice she wasn't there and would he not have whispered or shook her awake to warn her before he opened fire.

And if it was pitch black how was he able to fire so accurately? Or would he not have shouted a warning to the intruder first? Just thinking out loud...

kraggy

$28000 bail?

That's nothing.

opinion guy

srm23 wrote: »

does this mean you can do whatever you want as long as you've no legs

If I understood the judges lecture correctly he needed to satisfy certain conditions to deny bail - either
1) He is a flight risk
2) He is a danger to others
3) It would not be in the public interests

Thats its. Its not about guilt or otherwise. This wasn't the trial

TwoBirds

viper006 wrote: »

Ya what a tool. i didnt find it pleasant hearing the shouts of joy from his family either. The guy has taken the life of a woman be it accidentially or on purpose and has ruined many lives either way. I guess the judge built it up so much it was an outburst of emotion

opinion guy wrote: »

Yeah I thought that was bad also. Apparently the yes you could here was OP himself. Hmmmm:mad:

According to the twitter machine, it was from the back row of the court room, reportedly one of Kenny Kunene's entourage.

viper006

SmokeyEyes wrote: »

I hope for the poor girl and her families sake that it was an accident which although devastating, is easier to take than knowing she was murdered.

My gut feeling is that something is off though, if he got the gun from under the bed on her side how did he not notice she wasn't there and would he not have whispered or shook her awake to warn her before he opened fire.

And if it was pitch black how was he able to fire so accurately? Or would he not have shouted a warning to the intruder first? Just thinking out loud...

Ya i agree, it is very off to me still. The telegrapgh summed up the judges remarks saying he has several problems with Pistorius' version of events. He says he has difficulty understanding why Pistorius did not check where Reeva was, why he did not call out to her in the toilet, and why he would even go into the toilet, given that he knew there was an intruder there who could attack him before he had the chance to respond. "There are improbabilities that need to be explored".

The Road Runner

bail raised to one million rand it seems, from reuters

opinion guy

The Road Runner wrote: »

bail raised to one million rand it seems, from reuters

Thats is still chicken feed for him though isn't it ?

Gosub

Next court appearance 4th June

The Road Runner

opinion guy wrote: »

Thats is still chicken feed for him though isn't it ?

yeah 85,000 euro

seamus

opinion guy wrote: »

Thats is still chicken feed for him though isn't it ?

Considering that his income will drop to basically zero until the end of the trial (which could be more than a year away), I think a 1m bond is pretty big. A lot of his wealth appears to be tied up in assets and he has a mortgage to service, so losing 1m for breaching bail would be a pretty big hit.