What do women really look for in men?

Eve_Dublin

Gongoozler wrote: »

Of course it's possible.
No I'm not saying most women want men for their money. Does everything have to be all or nothing with you?

You're talking to me like you've known me for years!


What are you saying exactly?

Daveysil15

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Just a question: do you genuinely think Feminazi rallies are held around Europe?


What I want in a man (and have luckily found)...a man who recognises a joke even if it's not a very funny one.

Yes I get the joke Eve. Silly me thought you were serious.

And yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of femanizi rallies held in many places.

TeddyTedson

Possible answers = ∞
That's right, women want a guy who knows some mathematics.
Nah, always be yourself, as cliched as it sounds.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Can we have some proper answers from women....not guys talking shiite.



Y'know, to help some of the confused guys out.

Gongoozler

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

You're talking to me like you've known me for years!


What are you saying exactly?

Completely based on your reactions to things said on this thread.

I'm not saying anything exactly - I'm saying it's possible that there are a lot of women out there that are attracted to men for money/status etc. You were dismissing that any sort of 'normal' woman would do this, my argument is that you have no proof that it is the minority. Believe me, I want to believe that women aren't like that, giving the good ones a bad rep, but based on what I've seen, it's enough to make me question that. At least I'm open to questioning it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I must get to bed so I can be refreshed for my day of shopping with my fantastically rich boyfriend

Larianne

Stealth Recce wrote: »

Can we have some proper answers from women....not guys talking shiite.



Y'know, to help some of the confused guys out.

I want a man who can furnish me with glowsticks.

Eve_Dublin

Gongoozler wrote: »

Completely based on your reactions to things said on this thread.

I'm not saying anything exactly - I'm saying it's possible that there are a lot of women out there that are attracted to men for money/status etc. You were dismissing that any sort of 'normal' woman would do this, my argument is that you have no proof that it is the minority. Believe me, I want to believe that women aren't like that, giving the good ones a bad rep, but based on what I've seen, it's enough to make me question that. At least I'm open to questioning it.

I didn't dismiss anything. I simply said their generalisations that women (generally) are gold-diggers based on no evidence was bollocks.

I know there are (of course!) women like that but they're not the majority. Course they aren't. I don't know any Irish women like that but I've met them (not in Ireland). Do you really believe they could be the majority?

hatrickpatrick

I don't know why these threads always end up being about gold diggers. They are easy to spot a mile away and even then you don't have to get married if you don't want to take the risk, and even if you do, you can have a prenup or something.

It may indeed be common, but let me be a bit controversial for a second and point out that it's usually blindingly obvious. I can't help feeling any lad who falls for such a trap is either extremely naive or extremely gullible.

The myth that all women want a lad for security rather than a relationship holds about as much water as the myth that all, or even the majority of lads just want to screw and move on. In other words, it's BS.
Again I'm not saying they don't exist I'm just saying there are plenty of independent minded women out there who not only don't want it, but would be defiantly offended if someone suggested they give up their independence to live off someone else. Pride in your own achievements is not exclusive to us guys :rolleyes:

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Larianne wrote: »

I want a man who can furnish me with glowsticks.

Hmmmm, well step into my office! Let me satisfy you m'lady.

Eve_Dublin

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Yes I get the joke Eve. Silly me thought you were serious.

And yeah, I'm sure there's plenty of femanizi rallies held in many places.

Course you do. And they're called Feminazi Rallies as well.

Larianne

Larianne wrote: »

I want a man who can furnish me with glowsticks.

Will I bring the bracelet adapters too?

Irish Guitarist

Hairy nipples and toes and the ability to score 3 million on Tetris DX. I hope.

Eve_Dublin

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I don't know why these threads always end up being about gold diggers. They are easy to spot a mile away and even then you don't have to get married if you don't want to take the risk, and even if you do, you can have a prenup or something.

It may indeed be common, but let me be a bit controversial for a second and point out that it's usually blindingly obvious. I can't help feeling any lad who falls for such a trap is either extremely naive or extremely gullible.

The myth that all women want a lad for security rather than a relationship holds about as much water as the myth that all, or even the majority of lads just want to screw and move on. In other words, it's BS.
Again I'm not saying they don't exist I'm just saying there are plenty of independent minded women out there who not only don't want it, but would be defiantly offended if someone suggested they give up their independence to live off someone else. Pride in your own achievements is not exclusive to us guys :rolleyes:

For some reason posters on here feel I've no right to be even an a tiny bit offended (I'm not "offended" as such, just exasperated so many people think like that), which is very odd to me.

Sauve

Stealth Recce wrote: »

Can we have some proper answers from women....not guys talking shiite.



Y'know, to help some of the confused guys out.

I want......
Someone who's not confused
I'm enough of that by myself trying to figure ye men out!

:pac:

TeddyTedson

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

Hairy nipples and toes and the ability to score 3 million on Tetris DX. I hope.

And hopefully a beer gut, so as they won't look fat beside me when she's carrying my litter.

strobe

Now I'm no anthrpolologistician, but from my own personal observations, as limited as they may be, near as I can figure what men and women want in the opposite sex, or the same sex if they are so inclined, is someone they find extremely sexually attractive that satisfies them sexually and that they enjoy spending time with when they aren't fukking each other because they are nice and interesting and fun to be around.

So yeah, boys and girls, if you are looking for advice on how to attract the people you want to attract, my advice would be to be good looking and good in bed and interesting and nice and fun.

So spake Strobe.

Larianne

Deleted User wrote: »

Will I bring the bracelet adapters too?

Holy mother of God, YES!!

Where would you be going without them! :eek:

Larianne

Larianne wrote: »

Holy mother of God, YES!!

Where would you be going without them! :eek:

Are you in Dublin? I'm dying to get rid of them.

Larianne

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you in Dublin? I'm dying to get rid of them.

I am. PM for directions

Eve_Dublin

strobe wrote: »

Now I'm no anthrpolologistician, but from my own personal observations, as limited as they may be, near as I can figure what men and women want in the opposite sex, or the same sex if they are so inclined, is someone they find extremely sexually attractive that satisfies them sexually and that they enjoy spending time with when they aren't fukking each other because they are nice and interesting and fun to be around.

So yeah, boys and girls, if you are looking for advice on how to attract the people you want to attract, my advice would be to be good looking and good in bed and interesting and nice and fun.

So spake Strobe.

That's it in a nutshell for both genders. Let's face it.

Ruudi_Mentari

I know that I look for myself in a woman, therefor women only wish to see me in them

Daveysil15

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

For some reason posters on here feel I've no right to be even an a tiny bit offended (I'm not "offended" as such, just exasperated so many people think like that), which is very odd to me.

Of course you can feel offended, but why don't you do what most of the other female posters do, and enter into a proper debate with people, instead of just insulting people with your condescending remarks.

Sh1tbag OToole

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I don't really care what women want, but I did read in reputable newspapers that rich men give women more orgasms. What y'all think of that?

It was a self reported survey so it's not 100% and correlation does not mean causation.

Women's built in gold digging traits are fairly well known. http://www-student.unl.edu/cis/psyc373b01/unit3/lsn16-tp05.html. As long as you're not a complete sh1tbag being rich is probably enough to keep a women. I wouldn't be sure of it but I reckon most men accept that a relationship is going to be a bit of a burden except for the sex and that there are expectations of generosity and gifts and a certain amount of nagging and grief is there to be put up with on a permanent basis.

I've never heard of a woman in the pub at 9 o'clock saying *sigh* I better go home or the boyfriend will be giving out that I'm not spending time with him but I've heard "the wife will be cribbing" plenty of times. I don't think many women would put up with such a boyfriend or anyone who is only alright and doesn't greatly improve their life. Except for "abusive" partners, some women show fierce loyalty to those, dafuq is up with that?

SouthTippBass

I'v got a steady job, moderate income....

and a mighty big langer! :pac: How am I doing?









Oh thats right, I'm still single.....

Eve_Dublin

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Of course you can feel offended, but why don't you do what most of the other female posters do, and enter into a proper debate with people, instead of just insulting people with your condescending remarks.

Nice one. Thanks for the advice. As always, I'll take it on board.

Sh1tbag OToole

strobe wrote: »

Now I'm no anthrpolologistician, but from my own personal observations, as limited as they may be, near as I can figure what men and women want in the opposite sex, or the same sex if they are so inclined, is someone they find extremely sexually attractive that satisfies them sexually and that they enjoy spending time with when they aren't fukking each other because they are nice and interesting and fun to be around.

So yeah, boys and girls, if you are looking for advice on how to attract the people you want to attract, my advice would be to be good looking and good in bed and interesting and nice and fun.

So spake Strobe.

A man can be all of those things but if he's down and out and on the dole and only the leaving cert done and not able or willing for more education then he'd better be praying to the Lord that nobody richer comes along to pick up his woman.

Eve_Dublin

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

It was a self reported survey so it's not 100% and correlation does not mean causation.

Women's built in gold digging traits are fairly well known. http://www-student.unl.edu/cis/psyc373b01/unit3/lsn16-tp05.html. As long as you're not a complete sh1tbag being rich is probably enough to keep a women. I wouldn't be sure of it but I reckon most men accept that a relationship is going to be a bit of a burden except for the sex and that there are expectations of generosity and gifts and a certain amount of nagging and grief is there to be put up with on a permanent basis.

I've never heard of a woman in the pub at 9 o'clock saying *sigh* I better go home or the boyfriend will be giving out that I'm not spending time with him but I've heard "the wife will be cribbing" plenty of times. I don't think many women would put up with such a boyfriend or anyone who is only alright and doesn't greatly improve their life. Except for "abusive" partners, some women show fierce loyalty to those, dafuq is up with that?

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

A man can be all of those things but if he's down and out and on the dole and only the leaving cert done and not able or willing for more education then he'd better be praying to the Lord that nobody richer comes along to pick up his woman.

More sexist bollocks.







Sorry Davey!! Tried to take your advice but couldn't!! Please don't give out to me!!

hatrickpatrick

Going to make one more remark here - yes there are girls who'll deliberately go for the kind of lad who treats them like crap and makes them cry etc. In my experience there's very little you can do to help those girls and you yourself might end up being regarded as "the enemy" in that sort of scenario if you push it.

Again, they are the minority. The problem is that, like in ANY walk of life, the minority manage to make a big enough mess that the silent majority becomes a little invisible. And it sort of makes sense - those in happy relationships have no reason to go to the media, the internet or otherwise to complain about their relationship. So what you see on forums and on TV is always going to be skewed towards people who aren't happy. Those who are happy don't need to talk about it, so it appears that nobody actually is.

Think about it - the whole "women like bastards" thing tends to come from people reading forums and watching TV, no?

Sh1tbag OToole

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

More sexist bollocks.







Sorry Davey!! Tried to take your advice but couldn't!! Please don't give out to me!!

Maybe all evolutionary psychology is a load of bollocks. I wouldn't know but there are a lot of learned people who believe in it.

hatrickpatrick

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

there are expectations of generosity and gifts and a certain amount of nagging and grief is there to be put up with on a permanent basis.

I've never heard of a woman in the pub at 9 o'clock saying *sigh* I better go home or the boyfriend will be giving out that I'm not spending time with him but I've heard "the wife will be cribbing" plenty of times.

And whose fault is it for choosing to stay in those relationships and pander to that kind of behavior instead of sticking up for themselves?
Seriously, it takes two to tango in those situations. If your girlfriend treats you like that then you tell her to either cop on or leave. I'd expect nothing less from any girlfriend I nagged in that manner.

They will also respect you far more for it if you be your own man. The statements you've made are contradictory - women want to boss lads around but they also want a hyper-alpha lad.
Could I point out that there's nothing remotely alpha about being a doormat. If you believe women are attracted to alpha lads then surely it logically follows that they don't want a guy who will cave in to every argument like that and not stand his ground when he's right? I've been in both types of relationship. My last girlfriend didn't do the nagging thing after a while because I simply refused to take it seriously and usually made a joke of the whole thing if she tried to get mad at me for staying out too late, or not calling her at X time or anything like that. Funniest thing I've ever heard was when she said one day over the phone "Would you stop making me laugh for a second, I'm trying to give out to you here!"

Seriously... Again there are those who nag. I'm not defending them at all, but if you put up with it, it becomes your problem - you have a choice about whether to be a doormat or whether to be a man. I'm positive that 99% of girls don't want the former even if they might sometimes act like it.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dphpDdfZUGw

opposite of this guy is what they look for

Seems he was wrong

strobe

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

A man can be all of those things but if he's down and out and on the dole and only the leaving cert done and not able or willing for more education then he'd better be praying to the Lord that nobody richer comes along to pick up his woman.

I'm both rich and so handsome it's positively embarrassing, and charming as the day is long to boot, not to mention intelligent and modest, so admittedly I am speaking in the abstract here as it's unlikely to be a situation that shall ever effect me.

However, in my abstract observations of the people that have milled around me in my everyday life, I think I have found that that would depend entirely on the men and women involved.

Sure money is attractive to women, just as charm and intelligence and good looks and sexual prowess and loyalty and social standing and fitness and good strong sharp healthy clean white teeth are. But is it the overriding factor? Would an ugly uncharming(is that a word?), slow witted, sexually dysfunctional, disloyal, socially despised, flabster with crooked broken yellow teeth but a bit of cash clean up with the ladies when pitted against a smooth talking but not so wealthy Adonis that can make them cum so hard they pass out at thirty paces? A certain type of woman, sure. But 95%* of the vagina packing population would be on the latter lad like flies on **** while Mr. Former would be left out in the cold with them, or reduced to settling for the runner up prize other 5%*. Imo etc.

Money brings in the babes all right, just like looking like a movie star does but these things alone don't outdo everything else combined everytime, that's just make believe for the purpose of argument and isn't supported by real world observation.

*These percentages have not been empirically tested nor have they been subject to the rigor of peer examination.

hairyprincess

Good communication skills and the ability to express his feeling are traits which are very important to me in a man.

Smidge

Has anyone ever heard the expression.....

"If you marry for money you will earn every penny of it"

I think what the majority of women want(and we are talking about the majority of sensible ordinary women) and once you get past the initial attraction because for every single one of us male or female there has to be an initial attraction and that btw doesn't mean the guy has to be a versace model, is a man who they KNOW that if something, anything goes wrong, this man will be there to catch them.

If there is a death, a job loss, a bitch in work, an unwanted pregnancy, a disabled child, this man will the only one who that woman can unequivocally say "HE WILL BE THERE FOR ME"

Ruudi_Mentari

Smidge wrote: »

is a man who they KNOW that if something, anything goes wrong, this man will be there to catch them.

that'd be financial muscle doing the catching.

I know, because I work for emergency services and whenever there's an imminent jumper they call on my dong.

Smidge

Ruudi_Mentari wrote: »

that'd be financial muscle doing the catching.

I know, because I work for emergency services and whenever there's an imminent jumper they call on my dong.

Time to go mobile

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

And whose fault is it for choosing to stay in those relationships and pander to that kind of behavior instead of sticking up for themselves?
Seriously, it takes two to tango in those situations. If your girlfriend treats you like that then you tell her to either cop on or leave. I'd expect nothing less from any girlfriend I nagged in that manner.

They will also respect you far more for it if you be your own man. The statements you've made are contradictory - women want to boss lads around but they also want a hyper-alpha lad.
Could I point out that there's nothing remotely alpha about being a doormat. If you believe women are attracted to alpha lads then surely it logically follows that they don't want a guy who will cave in to every argument like that and not stand his ground when he's right? I've been in both types of relationship. My last girlfriend didn't do the nagging thing after a while because I simply refused to take it seriously and usually made a joke of the whole thing if she tried to get mad at me for staying out too late, or not calling her at X time or anything like that. Funniest thing I've ever heard was when she said one day over the phone "Would you stop making me laugh for a second, I'm trying to give out to you here!"

Seriously... Again there are those who nag. I'm not defending them at all, but if you put up with it, it becomes your problem - you have a choice about whether to be a doormat or whether to be a man. I'm positive that 99% of girls don't want the former even if they might sometimes act like it.

Women do want an alpha male who will put her in her place but she will also try to treat him like a doormat. It's a built in behaviour IMO to test a man for his strength of character. The man who allows his wife to bully him him will get less sex.

hatrickpatrick

Time to go mobile wrote: »

Women do want an alpha male who will put her in her place but she will also try to treat him like a doormat. It's a built in behaviour IMO to test a man for his strength of character. The man who allows his wife to bully him him will get less sex.

That's what I'm saying, even if she tries to bully you, take it from me most of the time she would be seriously turned off if you pandered to it.
Now having said that, there are those who honestly just want a lad they can push around, and in those rare cases which aren't solved by simply refusing to be pushed around, you leave. Don't waste your valuable time and energy being involved with a girl like that.
But I would say that is very much the minority. In most cases just put your foot down and absolutely refuse to play such games. If you get "the silent treatment" or whatever just act like it doesn't faze you at all. Don't back down, don't roll over. You're a lad, you have a backbone, dammit!

I'm sure some lads will attack me for victim blaming or something like that but this has to be said. To every lad who says "better get home or the missus will chew my head off", one must ask "why would you let someone chew your head off?"

Time to go mobile

Time to go mobile wrote: »

Women do want an alpha male who will put her in her place but she will also try to treat him like a doormat. It's a built in behaviour IMO to test a man for his strength of character. The man who allows his wife to bully him him will get less sex.

I've had a snigger to myself at all the amateur behaviourists on this thread, pontificating on the reasons women like (other) men.

And just when I thought it couldn't get worse, another one came along.

VEN

Daveysil15 wrote: »

And who do you think this thread is been hijacked by?

Eve... I've lost count of how many male posters you've had issues with. You just never stop. Telling people they're talking bollox etc. You're only stirring things up as usual. You say these threads attract the spasmos and yet you continue to post in it yourself. What does that say?

the "holes" the "bolloxes" the "fly ****e" :pac:

Time to go mobile

Candie wrote: »

I've had a snigger to myself at all the amateur behaviourists on this thread, pontificating on the reasons women like (other) men.

And just when I thought it couldn't get worse, another one came along.

Really well I've witnessed this behaviour to be quite common. Women and you I bet are not turned on by men they can control.

IMO women are attracted to value. Value for women can come in many forms. A man who can inspire a wide range of emotions in a woman has value to her. That's why the bad boy is so successful, she certainly won't be bored with him around, he will excite her. He inspires emotions in her.

In order to inspire emotions in a woman a man must truly live by his own rules and be internally validated. A man like that won't tolerate bullsh1t from a woman, he'll put her in her place and show her where his personal boundaries lie. At this point women can actually become aroused from your laying down the boundaries.

Time to go mobile

Time to go mobile wrote: »

Really well I've witnessed this behaviour to be quite common. Women and you I bet are not turned on by men they can control.

IMO women are attracted to value. Value for women can come in many forms. A man who can inspire a wide range of emotions in a woman has value to her. That's why the bad boy is so successful, she certainly won't be bored with him around, he will excite her. He inspires emotions in her.

In order to inspire emotions in a woman a man must truly live by his own rules and be internally validated. A man like that won't tolerate bullsh1t from a woman, he'll put her in her place and show her where his personal boundaries lie. At this point women can actually become aroused from your laying down the boundaries.

Do you honestly not realise how stupid that sounds? I know you must read a lot of PUA type literature, because this is pretty much that party line, but in the real world you have to realise all that is a construct to enable inept men to behave in a way that helps them feel better about themselves and their failings, therefore giving them the illusion of more self-confidence.

Believing in all this crap only tells me that you know nothing of value about relationships, and have at most, nothing but superficial dealings with women - if even that.

Women are individuals, not a herd motivated by the same factors. You'll get a lot further treating women as singular people than trying to pigeonhole us all into some sort of homogeneous, easily manipulated, hive-minded stereotype.

As for your witnessing this to be common, may I introduce you to the concept of confirmation bias?

Cereal Number

Women want a chocolate willy that shoots out cash on demand

hattoncracker

I feel sad for all the guys on here who actually think women are controlled by our biological urges-but I do think the only reason this thread was started was to troll because you aren't actually replying to the women who answer you with real answers, and only reply to the ones who challenge your preconceptions.


You better get real friendly with your hands and start practising the stranger technique, because you're gonna need it in the future.

solas111

Don't know what women look for except the obvious things that have probably been mentioned already. However, I have noticed that many of them are attracted to 'bad guys' who don't treat them well.

Cereal Number

hattoncracker wrote: »

I feel sad for all the guys on here who actually think women are controlled by our biological urges-but I do think the only reason this thread was started was to troll because you aren't actually replying to the women who answer you with real answers, and only reply to the ones who challenge your preconceptions.


You better get real friendly with your hands and start practising the stranger technique, because you're gonna need it in the future.

I might save myself a few euro in the process

Cereal

Pug160

hattoncracker wrote: »

I feel sad for all the guys on here who actually think women are controlled by our biological urges-but I do think the only reason this thread was started was to troll because you aren't actually replying to the women who answer you with real answers, and only reply to the ones who challenge your preconceptions.


You better get real friendly with your hands and start practising the stranger technique, because you're gonna need it in the future.

Not all of us think the same way though. Some of us share similar views that differ in quite a big way - you should look at the bigger picture. Not all is what it seems sometimes. I personally think both men and women have urges that are out of our control sometimes - like finding someone attractive. And yes, power, status and personality can all have that power too. I'm not labeling every woman the same though. I do think certain types of women are more likely to end up with certain types of men.

And ladies, why the constant snide remarks? It does nothing for the debate and is very childish.

hattoncracker

Cereal Number wrote: »

I might save myself a few euro in the process

Cereal

You may have to spend it on treatment for repetitive strain injury though!

Cereal Number

hattoncracker wrote: »

You may have to spend it on treatment for repetitive strain injury though!

Cheaper than jewelry and the balance can be spent on cans with the lads!


Cereal

Pug160

Pug160 wrote: »

And ladies, why the constant snide remarks? It does nothing for the debate and is very childish.

Snide? The ladies on this thread are addressing, with a fair amount of restraint, some pretty disgusting stereotyping.

The sexist, insulting and sweeping generalisations spewed in this thread aren't coming from the ladies.