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Meteorite falls in Chelyabinsk, Russia

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Was the recently found 2012 asteroid breaking up or something separate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris




    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    ^^^^^^^
    That is mental!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    Ok newbie question here and pardon my ignorance. Can astronomers predict every meteor? Seems like a big enough one they missed here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Rasmus wrote: »
    Ok newbie question here and pardon my ignorance. Can astronomers predict every meteor? Seems like a big enough one they missed here.
    They can to a point. Where that point is, i'm not sure.
    I've heard reports it was shot at with a missile. Sounds crazy but nothing would surprise me any more.
    I think theres a zinc factory badly damaged too, but it could be unrelated.
    At some stage i'll be able to give a definite answer!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Im on the phone so heres a link mentioning a missile strike:http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_02_15/400-injured-by-meteorite-debris-in-Russia/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    shedweller wrote: »
    They can to a point. Where that point is, i'm not sure.
    I've heard reports it was shot at with a missile. Sounds crazy but nothing would surprise me any more.
    I think theres a zinc factory badly damaged too, but it could be unrelated.
    At some stage i'll be able to give a definite answer!!

    I read about the missle strike but reports from that Russian 'ministry official' are unconfirmed.
    I saw a picture if a large building wrecked with billowing smoke, but maybe it was already in pieces and the impact of a burning rock wad incidental.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Some are saying it mighthave been the shockwave that damaged the building. I reckon something physically hit it because there were no other buildings damaged much apart from windows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    Rasmus wrote: »
    I read about the missle strike but reports from that Russian 'ministry official' are unconfirmed.
    I saw a picture if a large building wrecked with billowing smoke, but maybe it was already in pieces and the impact of a burning rock wad incidental.

    Not a chance a rocket would intercept a Meteor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    shedweller wrote: »
    Some are saying it mighthave been the shockwave that damaged the building. I reckon something physically hit it because there were no other buildings damaged much apart from windows.

    Meteors explode above the ground as it did in Siberia nearly 100 years ago.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭crushproof


    Some great videos on Youtube of the meteor, the blast noise from the shockwave is unreal!

    Would love to see a meteor of that size someday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    Not a chance a rocket would intercept a Meteor

    No, the strike is BS, simple sensationalism from the street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    Rasmus wrote: »
    No, the strike is BS, simple sensationalism from the street.


    Indeed. You cannot intercept what you cannot see coming and what is going at a speed way beyond any missile. One of the videos on youtube show the trail die and the rock continue :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭Gambas


    Meteors explode above the ground as it did in Siberia nearly 100 years ago.

    Kinda. The friction from the atmosphere starts tearing them apart, but the real damage is caused on impact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    this one is much better (HD):



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭kingtiger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭sesswhat


    shedweller wrote: »
    Some are saying it mighthave been the shockwave that damaged the building. I reckon something physically hit it because there were no other buildings damaged much apart from windows.

    If the shockwave broke windows, I'd say it's quite possible that the roof of the factory simply collapsed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    Not a chance a rocket would intercept a Meteor

    Cant see why not. Why would the meteorite suddenly explode mid air otherwise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    sesswhat wrote: »
    If the shockwave broke windows, I'd say it's quite possible that the roof of the factory simply collapsed.

    Shock-wave and debris done the damage according to many reports summarized here:

    http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_02_15/400-injured-by-meteorite-debris-in-Russia/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    ZeRoY wrote: »
    Cant see why not and I would believe that version here too. Why would the meteorite suddenly explode mid air otherwise?

    Check out the Tunguska Incident


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Check out the Tunguska Incident

    And? You dont know, I dont know. All speculation so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    ZeRoY wrote: »
    Cant see why not. Why would the meteorite suddenly explode mid air otherwise?



    Because it was an air burst. I would go as far as to say a Missile intercepting an unknown Meteor as practically impossible. Perhaps if you had warning or a very large one, maybe, but even then - maybe.

    Have a read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    ZeRoY wrote: »
    And? You dont know, I dont know. All speculation so far.

    You wanted to know why a meteorite would explode in mid air, I told you to tread about an incident that happened that explains it can & does happen.

    Whats the speculation, that this meteor was shot down? It'd be like shooting a bowling ball with a water pistol. Any missile with enough power to destroy the meteor would have made a very different video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    Because it was an air burst. I would go as far as to say a Missile intercepting an unknown Meteor as practically impossible. Perhaps if you had warning or a very large one, maybe, but even then - maybe.

    Have a read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

    The report are talking about shooting the meteorite 20km - what you see would be AFTER that interception happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    According to Sergey Smirnov from Pulkova Observatory,there is a high chance that another meteor could enter the Earths atmosphere in the next few hours.

    The one that broke up was probably of Iron nature and about 1 metre in diameter.

    There is supposed to be a strong smell of gun powder in the air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,973 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    It was fascinating watching sky news at 9am it was main story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    Because it was an air burst.

    Oh so now the speculation are gone, IT WAS. Thanks Professor. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    ZeRoY wrote: »
    Oh so now the speculation are gone, IT WAS. Thanks Professor. :D

    I suppose in 1908 it was a missile strike as well then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭OrgasmicBaz


    All this would of been avoided if Bruce Willis had not of been promoting his new Die Hard film :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I suppose in 1908 it was a missile strike as well then?

    That air burst could still be there, what I'm reading is that they would have shot down that thing before the video we all watched.


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