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Sim City
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Captain Chaos wrote: »Shows what you know about console gaming, there is a ton more to it than that.
PCs are not that complex to the full understanding of console gaming bar PC specs.
Care to enlighthen me? Bear in mind, I've owned consoles since the eighties and can probably claim to own any console you might care to name.
Consoles are popular because they are simple. They are plug and play devices. No muss, no fuss. You buy a game, you put it in and it works. The most complex thing you will ever do on a modern console is connect it to the internet. Says it all really.
You can teach an employee everything he will need to know and anything he might be asked in a few weeks. Azza's story makes alot of sense. Most game shop employees are ignorant of PC minutia simply because they don't need to know it. 95% of sales are console based.
The mac comment made me chuckle anyway.
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If this is the case why is a single player sandbox mode even possible? I am not contesting the fact that for the multiplayer mode that there is some serious bandwidth being used for the server client connection, with updates from neighbouring regions or whatever that occurs every 3 mins, and this is probably causing the servers to fall down. What is my problem is how they can justify the always online connection for something that is basically a single player mode.
What are these server side "simulations" in the one player mode if they exist? Bar global Leaderboards etc.. I cannot imagine anything that is done on a server and piped down to the client that cannot be done far more efficiently on the client itself, even if the data has to be simulated.
Seriously if ya have a link with some solid evidence i'd gladly read it.
Ok to explain it the old Sim City used animations that gave the impression of a living city, little cars would drive around the corner and vanish.
This one is a living city, it has 100,000 individuals that all get up go to work, drive home, drive to shops buys things. This all has to be processed.
On top of that you have all the other individual units of power, water, garbage, oil coal etc. Even the factories produce boxes that are all individuals and can be followed around the city.
Your PC simply can not do this locally and function properly. Your PC handles the simple stuff the local animations etc but the heavy lifting is done by Maxis servers.
So please stop saying always on DRM as it is just wrong. But i do at least respect the stance you have taken, it is not a game you want to play so you have decided not to buy.
I can't understand the people who are looking for refunds.
Customer: I would like to buy the new SimCity
EA: Ok no worries, you do know this is an online game?
Customer: Yes i do.
EA: And with online games there will be times when servers are full or down for maintenance and you might not be able to play and might have to wait your turn?
Customer: Yes i know that
EA: And that this is a digital download we don't give refunds on digital downloads you know this?
Customer : Yes I do, I know i might not be always able to play and that you don't give refund now give me my game.
EA: Ok here you go here is your game
Customer: The server is full I can't play, this is a scam, nobody told me I couldn't play when the servers are full. I want a refund your game doesn't work!!!!
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So my experience yesterday
Logged in via proxy at about 17:00 and downloaded game and installed. A little slow to install based on the download speed, but that was fine.
20:00 came around to sitting down to play, issues getting in so I just went back to WoW.
20:10 patch release and downloaded that advised fixes and upgrade to capacity
20:14 I'm in the game playing
Setting up the friends list and joining regions wasn't working smoothly so I setup my own private region and began to play.
12:00 logged out
12:02 logged back in without proxy
12:05 back playing my city
03:15 stopped playing.
Come on this morning and the friends list is working fine, we have setup our region together, and there was no issues with queues or capacity. Announcement also indicated capacity was expanded and servers put online to deal with influx of players.
About 15 of us went through the same process, had the same little hiccups outlined above, but all happy and got hours upon hours of play in.
Can't help but feel its people jumping on a bandwagon here. I've nothing to defend EA over, I just don't like seeing people jump on top of a snowball to make it bigger and give it more momentum. If you have ever played an online persistent game you will know a few simple facts from experience- Launch night is never smooth
- Capacity volumes is always underestimated then over estimed
- Extra hardware is always on standby
- Capacity is always lower then it can handle, to ensure smooth load. Technical staff monitor activity for the first few hours to ensure stability
I appreciate there was issues within the U.S, and I appreciate there was some issues in the E.U. But who the **** cares, out launch night was today, and by all accounts from my and my friends experiences, was pretty smooth and had little issues.
If you are giving out based on the fact you had issues trying to log in, going through a proxy, I imagine I don't have to explain why your complaint is completely invalid.
As for Shim's, come on man get a grip. Class action law suit? Its launch day of a persistent online game, that has been getting serious hype in the last few weeks to no doubt increase numbers way beyond what was anticipated, similar to Path of Exile.
Disruptions during launch day are to be expected, a game that launches perfectly without issue should be praised, one that has some, shouldn't be slated.
Maybe we can move on and discuss the game itself now?
Also if there is some people with Regions set up with free spots, gimme a shout via PM and I'll give you my Origin ID, I think I went region 2.
EDIt : I do apologise I see the topic ahs moved back to more discussing the game, either or consider it a small diary on how launch night went, and how it was pretty smooth for me
In city related news, had my city making 50k profit per hour, only to have a shock drought in raw materials required for my processor plants, coupled with my aggresive expansion, resulting in a bankrupt city. And I was just about to invite Enda to the game to show it how it is done.0 -
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Wasn't there a list of names back in this thread?
Heres my 1st go at it last night. Stayed up til all hours :rolleyes:
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