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Not sure how useful this is, but it's a cool little trick.
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Here's some definitive proof that sims do in fact just go to the nearest empty house.
Which actually makes me wonder, could you build a city with just a single road winding between industrial, commercial and residential zones, to avoid traffic congestion? It seems that its junctions with other roads which cause traffic to build up more than the amount of traffic on the road.
Edit: And more proof
I'm actually going to try this tonight.0 -
Blisterman wrote: »Not sure how useful this is, but it's a cool little trick.
YOUTUBE yNxViv3tHGc YOUTUBE
I don't have this game, gonna wait to see will EA/Maxis fix it first. But, I'm just wondering if that technique works, does the tunnelling technique from SC4 also work?
Any boardsies here try it. ?0 -
Blisterman wrote: »Here's some definitive proof that sims do in fact just go to the nearest empty house.
Which actually makes me wonder, could you build a city with just a single road winding between industrial, commercial and residential zones, to avoid traffic congestion? It seems that its junctions with other roads which cause traffic to build up more than the amount of traffic on the road.
Edit: And more proof
I'm actually going to try this tonight.
Good to see they're using their servers extra computational power to process this extremely complicated method. :rolleyes:0 -
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This guy seems to have found out a pretty clever layout. He got to 400,000 population with this.
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I believe the current city limitation size is their back up plan.Most DBA's would know or have a general idea of the limits of their systems, the amount of concurrent traffic they can handle etc... In terms of scalability it is not beyond the realms of possibility to do some calculations to account for the increase in players, you plan accordingly. They would/should have known how many players the servers can handle and scaled up to provide for an increase. Maybe they did know, maybe they didn't and made a huge error, but if it was the latter I would be very tentative about even releasing the game without having some sort of backup plan like limiting sales, like the Guild Wars 2 launch, until more servers can be brought online.
Oh I'm not saying it's an either-or situation here, I'm asking the question whether a completely offline experience would be better than the online region-interacting one if you factored out the connection issues. I ask because, generally speaking, online and offline modes in games offer fundamentally different experiences while in this case, the line is far more blurred.What sort of world are we living in when such a game can only be multi- or single-player?
Is it really that long ago that games could come with both single-player and multi-player modes?0 -
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Exactly, For a MMO the online experience is fundamental to how the game works reacting to another player direct inputs. For SimCity or most other one player franchises, this is not the case. There is no direct effect to your your game if I demolish a house. Your sims in Gizmoville don't go running out protesting cause I demolished their cousins house in Pumaville Nothing like this is even possible because that is not how the game is built. It is a single player game with mainly social aspects built on top of it. These aspects are nice to have in a multiplayer environment but not neccesary to how the gameplay elements work. 0
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So that means you can add residential zones and still be short workers? I tried to do it much of the same experiment by using the detailed population view, and at one stage I had less than 100 unfilled jobs, so I added more residential and I had even more unfilled jobs. The game is broken!
I think it's worth pointing out that in all iterations of Sim City this still held true. Again, haven't played the current game, but in Sim City 4 for example once you had higher wealth residents move into an area they tended to be more picky and choosy about what jobs they wanted. It was fairly cool actually because if you wanted to you could end up with a situation where all the lower class were employed and happy and the rich the were jobless and frustrated. Iirc, the game was set up so that only about 15% of the wealthy residents would take up a job in the 'dirty' section of industry. With time that would vary, so that eventually they would find employment but it would be a very slow process if you weren't attracting the right type of jobs into your city.
If, of course, the problem you're experiencing is with the lowest class, then yeah, it sounds like the game is broken there.
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The more videos I watch the more convinced I am that not only were the server ideas half arsed, but the game coding was lazy and poorly implemented. I'm utterly disappointed by what Simcity has brought to the table. To be perfectly honest Cities XL does a better job simulating a city than SimCity can.
The only reason Cities XL gets poor reviews is because they just reboot the same game over and over every year. If you buy one of the Cities XL games and stick with it it's rather good, there's just no point in buying an iteration of it every year. It's certainly not as in depth as SC4 but its a good alternative in today's age.
I still think Tropico 3/4 are fantastic though 0 -
cherryghost wrote: »I still think Tropico 3/4 are fantastic though
Speaking of which Tropico 4 collectors bundle is €10 on Steam this week.0 -
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cherryghost wrote: »I still think Tropico 3/4 are fantastic though
I bought Tropico 4 in the Steam sale and it really is brilliant.0 -
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cherryghost wrote: »The more videos I watch the more convinced I am that not only were the server ideas half arsed, but the game coding was lazy and poorly implemented. I'm utterly disappointed by what Simcity has brought to the table. To be perfectly honest Cities XL does a better job simulating a city than SimCity can.
The only reason Cities XL gets poor reviews is because they just reboot the same game over and over every year. If you buy one of the Cities XL games and stick with it it's rather good, there's just no point in buying an iteration of it every year. It's certainly not as in depth as SC4 but its a good alternative in today's age.
I still think Tropico 3/4 are fantastic though
Any game you have to restart regularly to get around a memory leak despite the problem being three years old and the game actively rebooted is a bit of a no-no for me. I've wanted it to be good, every time I see it go on sale I am so close to buying it but dealing with that kind of coding problem not being fixed despite so many updates just turns me off the idea completely.0 -
cherryghost wrote: »The only reason Cities XL gets poor reviews is because they just reboot the same game over and over every year. If you buy one of the Cities XL games and stick with it it's rather good, there's just no point in buying an iteration of it every year.
Most of those reviews are probably from the same pool of people that have been giving SC5 bad reviews over the DRM? At least with CXL, when they release a new version, they offer the upgrade to existing customers for serious dirt cheap.
I had CXL 2011 in my account from a Steam sales ages ago, and the upgrade to Platinum was only a fiver.
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