Help with proof marks please!!

Longranger

Hi all,as above,I need help with these proof marks. They are on an AYA sxs with a double trigger,english stock and 28" barrels. Any help would be great as I've e-mailed AYA and have had no luck with a reply.
Cheers all. LR.

Grizzly 45

Here you go.A list of all old European proof marks

Longranger

Cheers Griz, now I just have to figure out the age. The serial number suggests the fifties (I think) but I can't find the corresponding date mark . Looks like an afternoon on the tinterweb!

tac foley

Helm over X = Eibar Proof House.
Helm with 'spinach' over X = proof test with standard ammunition.
BP = Nitro Proof
X and 2 = Post 1931 provisional BP proof - carried out prior to nitro proofing as a pre-proof test.
12/70 = 12 gauge/70mm cartdiges [2 3/4" only]

The other stuff are assembly stamps and the PV is the final acceptance stamp.

As you note - you'll also have to Aguirra y Aranzabal S.A for the date off the serial.

tac

Longranger

Thanks Tac, I checked the AYA website and according to the info there, I'm wondering if the "E" over the PV could be the pre-1945 date letter. If so, it would mean the gun was made in 1932,but I doubt it's that old. I could be wrong though.......

Witcher

I found a list of date codes back when I had my own Aya, I'll throw it up later.

Mezamo

The "E" is reinforced voluntary proof for single proof
for single and double barrel shotguns.

Longranger

Mezamo wrote: »

The "E" is reinforced voluntary proof for single proof
for single and double barrel shotguns.

Cheers lad. Looks like it's 1950's then.

Mezamo

Did a bit more digging... you might be able to accurately date it here: http://www.shotguns.se/html/spain.html

Double Barrel

Spanish year of proof codes: http://www.9mmlargo.com./year_codes.htm

Spanish Gunmakers Marks: http://web.jet.es/rafa/b_punzones_larga_lisa.html

Astra Crests and Proofs: http://www.9mmlargo.com./proofs/proofs.htm

Plus Mezamo;s link: http://www.shotguns.se/html/spain.html

Is it possible for a moderator to add this info to the useful information sticky, thanks.

dev110

Double Barrel wrote: »

Is it possible for a moderator to add this info to the useful information sticky, thanks.

Done

Double Barrel

Thanks Dev

Longranger

Thanks for the help lads. I finally got a reply from AYA this morning. All they could tell me is that the gun was made in 1957 and doesn't have a particular model name. Still, at least I know a bit more about it and I now i can clean it up and go out and start hunting with it.:D

Mezamo

Just out of interest Longranger was C1 stamped anywhere on the gun? if it was where abouts was it?

Thanks,

Mez.

Double Barrel

Reading the label.
Thanks goes to my niece for the graphics.

An example of a relatively modern Basque shotgun's barrel and flats stamps, gun is by Arrieta.


Large photos are required for clarity.
Action flats:


Barrel Flats:

Longranger

Mezamo wrote: »

Just out of interest Longranger was C1 stamped anywhere on the gun? if it was where abouts was it?

Thanks,

Mez.

If it is then I can't see it Mez .Whats the significance of that particular mark?
LR

Mezamo

C1 would be the date mark for 1957