Iceland to Ban Internet Porn!

starlings

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Or you could increase sexual education so people will know what's normal and not normal, or porn and real life sex, or so on so forth.

I'm not sure if anyone can agree on "normal" sex. Most people seem to think using porn is normal, and that it's a part of their real lives.

dlofnep

Iceland is a pretty liberal country. It seems like a strange move to censor or filter the internet.

Seachmall

Wicklowrider wrote: »

If people don't think internet porn is being viewed by and damaging children then they are naive.

Children have sex at 13 and, in cultures gone by, have gotten married at 13.

Not suggesting for one second these things are right but how much damage could watching porn do? And have you any evidence to suggest it does?

I remember at 13 or 14 talking about porn in school. Everyone watched it, and my school, from what I can tell, didn't release 800 sexual deviants or otherwise damaged teenagers into the world.

Raekwon

Why would you need porn when you are surrounded by beautiful Icelandic women?

Nodin

Raekwon wrote: »

Why would you need porn when you are surrounded by beautiful Icelandic women?

They photoshopped out the fangs and beard.

Kat1170

The rallying cry of the hysterical masses

ejmaztec

Raekwon wrote: »

Why would you need porn when you are surrounded by beautiful Icelandic women?

You'd need it if the rest of them looked like Bjork.:(

IceFjoem

Drakares wrote: »

Iceland is working on banning Internet pornography, calling explicit online images a threat to children.
'"There is a strong consensus building in Iceland," Halla Gunnarsdottir, an adviser to the nation's Interior Minister, told England's Daily Mail. "We have so many experts, from educationalists to the police and those who work with children behind this, that this has become much broader than party politics.
"At the moment, we are looking at the best technical ways to achieve this. But surely if we can send a man to the moon, we must be able to tackle porn on the Internet."

Iceland sent a man to the moon?! :eek:

snubbleste

A country that cares about their children.
Go Iceland!

Madam_X

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Nobody should be denied the right to a ****.

Deleted User wrote: »

**** is good for you , for your health mind and well been

Dudes can ye not **** without porn?

IceFjoem

Madam_X wrote: »

Dudes can ye not **** without porn?

Women, eh?! :rolleyes:

1ZRed

Madam_X wrote: »

Dudes can ye not **** without porn?

That's the worst thing about using a bit too much porn, it fecks your imagination.

starlings

1ZRed wrote: »

That's the worst thing about using a bit too much porn, it fecks your imagination.

know the **** that's one too many.

1ZRed

starlings wrote: »

know the **** that's one too many.

Just dip into your spankbank bank every now and again and you're sorted. No need to go limiting yourself cos that's just crazy talk :P

Duggys Housemate

My name is URL wrote: »

It's not going to happen, so no. It's a small, albeit varied group of people who are in favor of banning it.



Are you being sarcastic? Which is more backward.. a silly idea backed by a minority of politicians to ban internet porn, or the failure of successive governments over the course of two decades to introduce legislation regarding abortion? It's been legal in Iceland since 1975!

I dunno, Iceland?

It's nice they have abortion. I am pro choice. However if its a woman's right to do what she wants with her body......

I'll leave the rest as an exercise to the user.

Seachmall

IceFjoem wrote: »

Iceland sent a man to the moon?! :eek:

Yup, it's depicted in the bio-pic "Anna's Sexy Moon Adventures".

Duggys Housemate

These Nordic countries have made prostitution ( not just solicitation) illegal for both parties. Obviously if you do that legal porn - which is prostitution with a camera - is an anomaly.

The conservative backlash against the sexual revolution is coming from the left.

starlings

Duggys Housemate wrote: »

These Nordic countries have made prostitution ( not just solicitation) illegal for both parties. Obviously if you do that legal porn - which is prostitution with a camera - is an anomaly.

The conservative backlash against the sexual revolution is coming from the left.

probably because the left has always been concerned with people f*cking each other over.

Chuck Stone

Do you like fish sticks?

So you're a gay fish then?

Slightly NSFW (Audio)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDMfTkxvHsY

dlofnep

starlings wrote: »

probably because the left has always been concerned with people f*cking each other over.

Define left, please?

hames

Madam_X wrote: »

Dudes can ye not **** without porn?

Yeah but it's not the same.

Even before we had streaming videos, there needed to be pics
(anyone remember downloading pics?)

even before downloading pics there was the Roches Stores catelogue.

The swimwear pages were always stuck together in our house.

Herb Powell

MaxSteele wrote: »

The children can go fuck themselves.

They can't now, if the porn is banned

ITS_A_BADGER

icelandic internet pjorn

sock puppet

hfallada wrote: »

It wont work. Theyre is always ways around bans. Take the Chinese government firewall that blocks sites like nytimes, facebook, YouTube and pretty much every popular site in the west

But people are still able to get around it with free software called a VPN. Likewise I heard new York times paid up to $40 million for a pay wall that you can avoid by using private browsing on google chrome.

Another policy thats good on paper. But never works in reality

The paywall put in place by the New York Times has been very successful. The objective of the paywall is to make money, not to ensure that no one, anywhere can read content for free.

Jimoslimos

ejmaztec wrote: »

You'd need it if the rest of them looked like Bjork.:(

Well they have had something like three Miss World winners, which makes them the most beautiful country per head of population - 1 Miss World for every 50,000 women.

Irish Guitarist

Why are they worried about children seeing porn? It's very unlikely that they'll find it if they're not looking for it. There might be a few graphic ads on non-pornographic sites, but they're easily blocked. In general if you don't visit pornographic sites you just won't see porn.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Kid: "I swear I don't know how that porn got there Mom, I was just reading about my favourite cartoon characters and this video suddenly popped up."
Mother: "Internet pornography is attacking my children!!!11"
Must be how it happens. ^

In my day you'd have to **** off without knowing what a vagina even looked like "Is it like a hole on the front? Or is it smooth like action man?".

mike65

Internet porn in the 11th century.

(not safe for work but fine for academic study!)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFAe_AjJ5NE/UBfGFtTR6wI/AAAAAAAAAHM/1bm-Q9ZauA4/s1600/011.JPG

Truncheon Rouge

There's got to be real people putting this proposal forward.
Combine that with rule 34 of the internet = ironic.


http://rulesoftheinternet.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

Sin City

Maybe they should ban movies too that have nudity , or violence or even a bad guy. Wouldnt want television to corrupt the youth and become.the bad.guys themselves.
Banning porn will never happen

Auldloon

Lapin wrote: »

Waiting for the obligatory horse burger / Bjork / joke.

What did Bjork say to the burger?
Lob it into me there hoss....

starlings

dlofnep wrote: »

Define left, please?

political/philosophical perspective that seeks equality and fairness in society; at odds with exploitation, irresponsible consumerism -and objectification of women.

somefeen

Publishing porn is already banned there so its not that insane really.

Not as liberal a society as ye might think. No strip clubs for instance.

hatrickpatrick

starlings wrote: »

political/philosophical perspective that seeks equality and fairness in society; at odds with exploitation, irresponsible consumerism -and objectification of women.

I wouldn't agree with that, I consider myself left wing and I support absolute freedom of speech and the de-tabooing of sexuality, unlike the right which includes a lot of religious nuts who think they have a right to stuff 'family values' down everyone's throat...

This why defining everything in terms of left/right is so foolish. As someone who would be defined as "left wing", I am a staunch believer in social freedom in every walk of life. Censorship is not a left wing policy - it's the conservative right that are constantly attacking free speech.

hatrickpatrick

Madam_X wrote: »

Dudes can ye not **** without porn?

Probably going to raise some eyebrows with this but tbh I'm far more likely to fantasize about being with girls I know and fancy in real life whilst having one

Porn comes second to that for sure. It's a much bigger turn on to find written erotica, since in your head you can picture whoever you want as the characters.

I have an extremely vivid visual and auditory imagination though, I can literally play movies scene by scene in my head with nothing out of place, so maybe I just find that a lot easier than others? I know there's apparently an actual difference whereby some people use visual, mental images for their imagination and some just don't have that visual element when they think of things. Maybe that's why some prefer mental fantasy and others prefer videos etc?

Seachmall

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Maybe that's why some prefer mental fantasy and others prefer videos etc?

Talking with my friends I'd say imagination tends to be the favourite method of... eh... well... y'know... patting the pete...?

starlings

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I wouldn't agree with that, I consider myself left wing and I support absolute freedom of speech and the de-tabooing of sexuality, unlike the right which includes a lot of religious nuts who think they have a right to stuff 'family values' down everyone's throat...

This why defining everything in terms of left/right is so foolish. As someone who would be defined as "left wing", I am a staunch believer in social freedom in every walk of life. Censorship is not a left wing policy - it's the conservative right that are constantly attacking free speech.

I only brought the "left" into it because Duggy's Housemate remarked on Scandinavian policies against prostitution and, as he saw it, the rolling back of the sexual revolution.

I'm not left-wing, but I'm certainly not right wing either. I agree with you on defending free speech, but I think some left-wing people are very censorious too.

I think porn has, in some ways, "re-tabooed" some aspects of sexuality -e.g body image, skewed notions of sexual appetites and availability. I'm not for banning it, (ideology aside, it'd be a hopeless task) but it depresses the last drops of libido out of me to think that the "sexual revolution" means I am free to watch other women being f*cked and judged on their ability to please men.

poisonated

If this is true, Public outrage would surely erupt.

Gummy Panda

Icelanders have better things to worry about like narwhal attacks

starlings

starlings wrote: »

I think porn has, in some ways, "re-tabooed" some aspects of sexuality -e.g body image, skewed notions of sexual appetites and availability. I'm not for banning it, (ideology aside, it'd be a hopeless task) but it depresses the last drops of libido out of me to think that the "sexual revolution" means I am free to watch other women being f*cked and judged on their ability to please men.

Well you're free not to watch it too
As are the icelanders, as long as they just don't ban it for the rest of us

Nodin

starlings wrote: »

I only brought the "left" into it because Duggy's Housemate remarked on Scandinavian policies against prostitution and, as he saw it, the rolling back of the sexual revolution.

I'm not left-wing, but I'm certainly not right wing either. I agree with you on defending free speech, but I think some left-wing people are very censorious too.

I think porn has, in some ways, "re-tabooed" some aspects of sexuality -e.g body image, skewed notions of sexual appetites and availability. I'm not for banning it, (ideology aside, it'd be a hopeless task) but it depresses the last drops of libido out of me to think that the "sexual revolution" means I am free to watch other women being f*cked and judged on their ability to please men.

"pornography" covers everything from actual sexual intercourse to photographs of nude bodies. And as has been pointed out, if you don't like it, you aren't being forced to watch it.

starlings

bluewolf wrote: »

Well you're free not to watch it too, just don't ban it for the rest of us

I said I'm not for banning it. How did you miss that part?

starlings

starlings wrote: »

I said I'm not for banning it. How did you miss that part?

I didn't, it was just a general statement

Nodin

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Icelanders have better things to worry about like narwhal attacks

Narwhals have left Icelanders alone since some of them have been taken over by their inner calvinists. Too dry to be edible, apparently.

starlings

bluewolf wrote: »

I didn't, it was just a general statement

then why quote me? I was agreeing with you.

starlings

starlings wrote: »

then why quote me? I was agreeing with you.

I was trying to emphasise that you still do have freedom of choice, and that's part of the "revolution" - even if it's choosing not to watch it
The "don't ban it for the rest of us" was more in reference to the original topic and to anyone else sharing your choice!
bit of a muddle maybe...

starlings

Nodin wrote: »

"pornography" covers everything from actual sexual intercourse to photographs of nude bodies. And as has been pointed out, if you don't like it, you aren't being forced to watch it.

may I dislike it please Nodin?

Nodin

starlings wrote: »

may I dislike it please Nodin?

You can despise it, if it so please you. Personally I think hipless, flat chested stick thin cat walk models have far more to answer for than porn, but that's me.....

stoneill

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Icelanders have better things to worry about like narwhal attacks

Narwhals in the nip!

starlings

Nodin wrote: »

You can despise it, if it so please you. Personally I think hipless, flat chested stick thin cat walk models have far more to answer for than porn, but that's me.....

Completely different set of horrors there, though they do stem from the same problem of women's bodies being regarded as inviting judgement by some even when they're not on show. I don't mean looking and liking/disliking, which is natural, I mean the catcalling/remarks -like the one earlier about the photo of the Icelandic woman being photoshopped to cover her beard and fangs. If porn kept all of this away from women who don't want it, I'd be delighted.