RaboDirectPRO12 Race to Playoffs 2012/13

thomond2006

Ospreys

Scarlets 11-13 Edinburgh, with 25 to go. Edinburgh could do Munster a huge favour!

Edit: Glasgow 7-10 Cardiff Blues (latest score)

totallegend

Ospreys

thomond2006 wrote: »

Scarlets 11-13 Edinburgh, with 25 to go. Edinburgh could do Munster a huge favour!

And Glasgow being held by Cardiff

tolosenc

Munster

Treviso could be about to put Leinster top...

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Leinster up to 59 points, potential to catch up with Ulster and Glasgow tonight

thomond2006

Ospreys

Latest:

Scarlets 14-13 Edinburgh
Glasgow 10-13 Cardiff

C'mon Edinburgh!

totallegend

Ospreys

I'll tell you what, following random games via the Rabo website is actually quite an exciting way to 'watch' rugby.

thomond2006

Ospreys

Glasgow 24-13 up, they have time to chase the TBP

Quint2010

Glasgow won with a BP. Go top.

Tox56

Feckin Glasgow, horrible place to visit too, wouldn't like to play them

thomond2006

Ospreys

Quint2010 wrote: »

Glasgow won with a BP. Go top.

15 minutes left according to the Rabo update but they'll win unless they collapse.

totallegend

Ospreys

A win for Scarlets and a BP for Glasgow:

As it stands, it's
Ulster 61
Glasgow 61
Leinster 59
Scarlets 50
Ospreys 47
Munster 41

A loss for Munster tomorrow and it's game over.

Quint2010

thomond2006 wrote: »

15 minutes left according to the Rabo update but they'll win unless they collapse.

sorry my mistake Scarlets won by a point

thomond2006

Ospreys

totallegend wrote: »

A win for Scarlets and a BP for Glasgow:

As it stands, it's
Ulster 61
Glasgow 61
Leinster 59
Scarlets 50
Ospreys 47
Munster 41

A loss for Munster tomorrow and it's game over.

Tbh with Scarlets' run in Munster are really up against it. Besides the win I think we'll need to deny Ospreys an LBP. Scarlets could well sneak into contention for the top two depending on how far Ulster and Leinster go in Europe.

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thomond2006 wrote: »

Tbh with Scarlets' run in Munster are really up against it. Besides the win I think we'll need to deny Ospreys an LBP. Scarlets could well sneak into contention for the top two depending on how far Ulster and Leinster go in Europe.

Have to say that it's advantage Leinster for 1st place now

crisco10

Looking at the table, its really slipping away from Munster.

Quint2010

What these last few games have proved is that Leinster have by far the strongest squad in the league. Leinster v Glasgow next up in 3 weeks!

awec

Leinster have Ulster at the RDS at the end of the month. I suspect that'll be the game that sees Leinster go top.

Not even sure we'll have enough players fit to field a team :P

totallegend

Ospreys

P_1 wrote: »

Have to say that it's advantage Leinster for 1st place now

Glasgow in the RDS next up, Ulster in the RDS a week later. Two wins would be pretty sweet.

crisco10

Quint2010 wrote: »

What these last few games have proved is that Leinster have by far the strongest squad in the league. Leinster v Glasgow next up in 3 weeks!

That and they have a lot of players returning from injury in the last few weeks. EOM, Mackan, Dom Ryan, Flanagan etc

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totallegend wrote: »

Glasgow in the RDS next up, Ulster in the RDS a week later. Two wins would be pretty sweet.

Two cliched 8 pointers coming up so

crisco10

P_1 wrote: »

Two cliched 8 pointers coming up so

Yup, 2 wins puts leinster on top. 2 loses and they are fighting for any sort of playoff spot with a match against the Ospreys to come.

totallegend

Ospreys

crisco10 wrote: »

Yup, 2 wins puts us on top. 2 loses and we are fighting for any sort of playoff spot with a match against the Ospreys to come.

And a trip to Thomond as well.

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crisco10 wrote: »

Yup, 2 wins puts us on top. 2 loses and we are fighting for any sort of playoff spot with a match against the Ospreys to come.

Yeah a 4-0 match point win in both games will put us two points ahead of both Glasgow and Ulster at a bare minimum. Not the worst position to find ourselves in truth be told

molloyjh

P_1 wrote: »

Have to say that it's advantage Leinster for 1st place now

I wouldn't say that at all. Leinster have a tough enough run in. Glasgow, Ulster and Ospreys at home and Munster and Zebre away. More than 1 banana skin there.

Ulster are away to Connacht, Edinburgh and Leinster. Home to Newport.

Glasgow are away to Connacht, Leinster and Scarlet. Home to Cardiff, Munster and Ospreys.

Ulster still have the upper hand IMO. A lot will depend on how they do in Europe. They don't have the same depth as Leinster.

jamiedav2011

I think if you look at it in terms of games to play, Ulster are still in pole, just.

However, by virtue of the fact that Leinster will surely have more headspace to concentrate on the Rabo, the fact that we've the opportunity to take points at home from both Glasgow and Ulster, and also the amount of injuries that Ulster have, we're looking good.

I think Glasgow won't be able to sustain the pace given that run in. Possibly the toughest of the lot.

Absolute must win for both Ospreys and Munster tomorrow night though, and even at that they'll be looking at other results.

justsomebloke

But ulsters lack of depth is why Leinster will probably finish above them.

Ulster's problem with injuries will probably see them lose more games as they will be worried about risking people before the HEC game.

Truthfully I can't see ulster being in the top 2 come the end of the season.

So it becomes a race between glasgow and Leinster.

awec

When was the last time we had a full strength first choice 15 out?

P_1

I'm getting more and more concerned at the prospect of the Ospreys finishing 4th to be honest

jamiedav2011

justsomebloke wrote: »

But ulsters lack of depth is why Leinster will probably finish above them.

Ulster's problem with injuries will probably see them lose more games as they will be worried about risking people before the HEC game.

Truthfully I can't see ulster being in the top 2 come the end of the season.

So it becomes a race between glasgow and Leinster.

Not if Ulster lose to Sarries, and in any case, Ulster's run in is far more forgiving than Glasgow's.

jamiedav2011

P_1 wrote: »

I'm getting more and more concerned at the prospect of the Ospreys finishing 4th to be honest

Unless they win tomorrow night they'll be finding it tough to get 4th. Scarlets' run in is very easy, while Ospreys have Dragons + Treviso at home but away games to Blues, Glasgow and Leinster.

justsomebloke

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Not if Ulster lose to Sarries, and in any case, Ulster's run in is far more forgiving than Glasgow's.

Truthfully I think a loss to sarries could be more detrementle for Ulster as after their current run confidence will be massively hit and that could mentally block them from winning

MolBee

Well Ulster have used up all their hard earned 'cushioning' and the poor form of the past few weeks has caught up now, squad depth is being tested and we're losing that battle... Hopefully we can still nab a home playoff spot, all of the upcoming fixtures are more than winnable (bar Leinster) with a few guys back from injury and international call ups. Please no more injuries though... pretty please...

Leinster and Ulster in first and second respectively, Leinster to play Ospreys, Ulster to play... Glasgae... for the 5th time this season, is my prediction. :pac:

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Also worth mentioning that Glasgow have probably set some record in getting 5 bonus point wins in a row tonight.

molloyjh

P_1 wrote: »

Also worth mentioning that Glasgow have probably set some record in getting 5 bonus point wins in a row tonight.

Didn't the Dragons (yes Dragons) do it a few years back?

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molloyjh wrote: »

Didn't the Dragons (yes Dragons) do it a few years back?

4 on the bounce I believe

irishbucsfan

Munster

Fair play to Glasgow. It's hard not to like a team with such limited resources performing so strongly. Edinburgh should take note.

Niko Matawalu for RDP12 player of the season?

ray jay

They made the play offs last season too so it's no fluke. Glasgow and Leinster have been on a good run but Ulster's collapse is making them look all the better.

.ak

I hope we don't underestimate Glasgow. They've put themselves in a great position. They're actually top of the league table now due to tries. They're a decent team away, but an absolute nightmare when they're at home. If they get a sniff of a home semi they could win the league.

rrpc

Munster

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Fair play to Glasgow. It's hard not to like a team with such limited resources performing so strongly. Edinburgh should take note.

Niko Matawalu for RDP12 player of the season?

I know it's probably unfair seeing as he has a greater opportunity to score, but Ian Madigan is currently leadiing in three of the four Rabo stats: Top marksman (41 conversions and penalties), top scorer (127 points including 5 tries) and joint top appearances at 17.

He's just two tries short of being in the top five try scorers as well. He's also fifth in the golden boot stats with 83% success rate. The stats seem to be a bit funny on this seeing as he's supposed to have 35/42 kicks and yet is elsewhere credited with 41!

thomond2006

Ospreys

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Fair play to Glasgow. It's hard not to like a team with such limited resources performing so strongly. Edinburgh should take note.

Niko Matawalu for RDP12 player of the season?

I don't think the Scottish sides are as weak financially now as in the past. Both Glasgow and Edinburgh have spent a lot of money in the summer, the difference is Edinburgh's recruitment has been poor compared to Glasgow.

I don't think experienced Super Rugby imports like Josh Strauss or Sean Maitland come cheap. It'll be interesting to see if Glasgow can hold onto Stuart Hogg long term, if he stars on the Lions Tour they'll have to pay big money to keep him.

matthew8

Ospreys

rrpc wrote: »

I know it's probably unfair seeing as he has a greater opportunity to score, but Ian Madigan is currently leadiing in three of the four Rabo stats: Top marksman (41 conversions and penalties), top scorer (127 points including 5 tries) and joint top appearances at 17.

He's just two tries short of being in the top five try scorers as well. He's also fifth in the golden boot stats with 83% success rate. The stats seem to be a bit funny on this seeing as he's supposed to have 35/42 kicks and yet is elsewhere credited with 41!

Golden boot updates infrequently. It hasn't updated with the stats from this round and the last one.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Munster

rrpc wrote: »

I know it's probably unfair seeing as he has a greater opportunity to score, but Ian Madigan is currently leadiing in three of the four Rabo stats: Top marksman (41 conversions and penalties), top scorer (127 points including 5 tries) and joint top appearances at 17.

He's just two tries short of being in the top five try scorers as well. He's also fifth in the golden boot stats with 83% success rate. The stats seem to be a bit funny on this seeing as he's supposed to have 35/42 kicks and yet is elsewhere credited with 41!

the golden boot stats seem to only update every couple of weeks. I think he is at 41/49 which is still 83%

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Pos Team Played Won Drawn Lost For Against Bonus Pts Points
1 Glasgow 17 13 0 4 412 229 9 61
2 Ulster 17 13 1 3 445 280 7 61
3 Leinster 17 13 0 4 445 290 7 59
4 Scarlets 17 11 0 6 314 323 6 50
5 Ospreys 17 11 1 5 332 232 3 49
6 Munster 17 9 1 7 329 261 5 43
7 Treviso 17 7 1 9 291 355 5 35
8 Cardiff Blues 17 7 0 10 268 364 5 33
9 Connacht 17 7 0 10 282 299 4 32
10 Edinburgh 17 4 0 13 311 403 8 24
11 NG Dragons 17 5 0 12 260 423 3 23
12 Zebre 17 0 0 17 214 444 8 8

Table after round 17.
Glasgow, Ulster and Leinster looking very good for a playoff spot. Between Scarlets, Ospreys and Munster for the final spot.

decisions

Ospreys

I think that's game over for Munster.

irishbucsfan

Munster

It'd be quite entertaining to see a Connacht win against Munster. Add a bit of excitement in the Irish battle for the basement.

jamiedav2011

Munster need to make up 8 points with 5 games left and trips to Glasgow along with visits from Connacht and Leinster to come. Unlikely.

decisions

Ospreys

Id love to see Connacht take the HC spot off Munster.

P_1

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Munster need to make up 8 points with 5 games left and trips to Glasgow along with visits from Connacht and Leinster to come. Unlikely.

"Write them off at your..."

Damn I think we need a new cliché :cool:

CatFromHue

Ospreys

Should Munster not be on 43pts?

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CatFromHue wrote: »

Should Munster not be on 43pts?

Don't know what you're talking about