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RaboDirectPRO12 Race to Playoffs 2012/13

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Ospreys must win their next two games and look to get BPs, they won't want to need to win at both Glasgow and Leinster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    LEINSTER:
    Ulster (H), Munster (A), Zebre (A), Ospreys (H)

    I'll be at the remaining Leinster games, apart from Zebre. Anyone wanna fly me there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    Munster
    Ah I think any further involvement for Munster is a pipe dream at this stage. I think Glasgow will probably make it official next week, but Munsters entire season now rests on their trip to the Stoop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Going into tomorrow:

    Glasgow 67
    Leinster 63
    Ulster 62
    Ospreys 54
    Scarlets 54
    Munster 47

    Scarlets and Ospreys should win both their games, which puts pressure on whoever loses between Leinster & Ulster.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Ospreys
    The most amount of Try Bonus Points achieved by a team in the Celtic League was 9 by Lanelli in 06/07, they scored 61 tries that season.

    The most amount of tries scored by a team in a season was 67 by Ulster in 03/04, they got 8 TBP then.

    Glasgow are on 8 TBP and 59 tries scored with 3 games left to play (away to Lanelli, home to Ospreys, and away to Connacht).

    Can they make a new record?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Munster
    A win for either Ospreys or Scarlets tomorrow will effectively end Munster's interest in the Rabo this season. Season hangs on the trip to the Stoop.

    Leinster aren't far behind in the tries and bonus points!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Whatever happens tomorrow, and I think Leinster will win, I simply can't see a BP victory. Glasgow will be top of the table after the weekend with interesting match-ups to come. It'll be tight, and I would really, really rather not have to travel to Scotsoun to play that Glasgow side...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Ospreys
    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Whatever happens tomorrow, and I think Leinster will win, I simply can't see a BP victory. Glasgow will be top of the table after the weekend with interesting match-ups to come. It'll be tight, and I would really, really rather not have to travel to Scotsoun to play that Glasgow side...

    Interestingly*, the Rabo uses number of wins as the first criteria for splitting teams on the same points.

    A win tomorrow for Leinster without a BP would put us level on points with Glasgow but we'd have 15 wins to their 14 so we'd actually be top. Could be critical in a couple of weeks.

    *not very interesting at all


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Interestingly*, the Rabo uses number of wins as the first criteria for splitting teams on the same points.

    A win tomorrow for Leinster without a BP would put us level on points with Glasgow but we'd have 15 wins to their 14 so we'd actually be top. Could be critical in a couple of weeks.

    *not very interesting at all

    Actually that IS quite interesting and potentially huge for us. I don't see us overtaking glasgow on points difference so that gives Leinster a whole extra point to play with. That could well be crucial come the end of the season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Tomtom364


    Munster vs Leinster in Thomond, Munster nothing to lose but pride. Leinster needing the win. That will be tasty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Scarlets 10-0 up against Dragons, it's on BBC2 Wales right now. Faletau in the bin as well.

    Owen Williams is an impressive 10 and he's going to Leicester Tigers in the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Munster
    Scarlets 10-0 up against Dragons, it's on BBC2 Wales right now. Faletau in the bin as well.

    Owen Williams is an impressive 10 and he's going to Leicester Tigers in the summer.

    To become 3rd choice!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    To become 3rd choice!

    Would he? George Ford is leaving for Bath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Munster
    Would he? George Ford is leaving for Bath.

    And Ryan Lamb is arriving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    10-10 at halftime, Scarlets struggling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Scarlets score two tries in a minute, at least ten minutes left for them to nab a fourth try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    It finishes 28-20, no BP for Scarlets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Munster
    Whats the attendance like or suppose to be like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    its_phil wrote: »
    Whats the attendance like or suppose to be like?

    BBC said 35,000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    TABLE AFTER ROUND 19

    Glasgow 67
    Ulster 66
    Leinster 64
    Ospreys 58
    Scarlets 58
    Munster 47
    Treviso 39*
    Cardiff 34
    Connacht 32*
    Edinburgh 32
    Dragons 23
    Zebre 9

    http://www.rabodirectpro12.com/matchcentre/table.php


    REMAINING FIXTURES

    GLASGOW:
    Scarlets (A), Ospreys (H), Connacht (A)

    ULSTER:
    Dragons (H), Connacht (A), Cardiff (H)

    LEINSTER:
    Munster (A), Zebre (A), Ospreys (H)

    OSPREYS:
    Treviso (H), Glasgow (A), Leinster (A)

    SCARLETS:
    Glasgow (H), Cardiff (H), Treviso (H)

    As it stands Ulster are the favourites to top the league for me, they have the easiest run-in. Ospreys have it all to do to stay in the Top 4 with the run-in they have, Scarlets should get at least two wins from their three remaining games.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    Still think we could pip Glasgow, but will need a BP in Zebre and win in Thomond to do it.

    Huge swing tonight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 89 ✭✭Fox Mulder


    Think this is the best playoff run since they introduced it. Ulster by the way are on 66 points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Ospreys
    Glasgow should be the clear favourites. Basically win out and they're in. And I wouldn't back anyone against them. Leinster on 64 by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Can't see Glasgow being caught at this stage. I'd say the semis will end up as

    Glasgow v Ospreys
    Ulster v Leinster (venue tbd)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,076 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Ospreys
    matthew8 wrote: »
    Glasgow should be the clear favourites. Basically win out and they're in. And I wouldn't back anyone against them. Leinster on 64 by the way.

    Glasgot might be on top and favourites, but they have a tricky run in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,308 ✭✭✭✭.ak


    Yeah, let's hope Connacht or scarlets do us a favour and we see a ulster Leinster 1-2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Ospreys
    Well the ideal scenario is Scarlets beating Glasgow, Leinster winning all 3 and Ulster forgetting about 1 of their fixtures on the way to a Heineken cup victory.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,110 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The rabo semi's are the week before the HEC final.

    If we're involved in that then I'm not sure what sort of team we'd play. A Rabo semi, especially against Leinster would be a very physical affair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    awec wrote: »
    The rabo semi's are the week before the HEC final.

    If we're involved in that then I'm not sure what sort of team we'd play. A Rabo semi, especially against Leinster would be a very physical affair.

    Yeah remember the 2011 semi final, broken bodies everywhere, thankfully Northampton got slightly more broken in their Premiership semi final :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Munster
    awec wrote: »
    The rabo semi's are the week before the HEC final.

    If we're involved in that then I'm not sure what sort of team we'd play. A Rabo semi, especially against Leinster would be a very physical affair.
    I'd pretty much give the first XV a rest in round 22, then give the full team a run in the semi final (with front row changed at the 50 minute mark) as a dress rehearsal for the final.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Scarlets leading Glasgow 16-6 at HT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    If Leinster lose tomorrow they could end up in a dogfight just to make the playoffs.

    However a win puts them in pole position for home semi.

    Scarlets win wound make qualification virtually impossible for Munster.

    Edit: any win for scarlets makes it totally impossible for Munster due to games won .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    If Scarlets win, Ospreys will have to get five points against Treviso tomorrow. They would be up against it given the respective run-ins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    If Scarlets win, Ospreys will have to get five points against Treviso tomorrow. They would be up against it given the respective run-ins.

    Ospreys could catch Leinster if Leinster lose tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    durkadurka wrote: »
    Ospreys could catch Leinster if Leinster lose tomorrow.

    You're right.

    Scarlets now 26-6 up, plenty of time to get the BP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Going into tomorrow:

    Ulster 71
    Glasgow 67
    Leinster 64
    Scarlets 62
    Ospreys 58

    Tomorrow:
    Ospreys vs Treviso
    Munster vs Leinster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    Very hard to see ulster not getting a home semi.
    Tomorrow absolutely vital for Leinster.
    Munster defo out.

    And Connacht chasing 7th!

    Tell you what Connacht: if you do a job on Glasgow or ulster, we'll get ye into the Heino again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭its_phil


    Munster
    durkadurka wrote: »
    Very hard to see ulster not getting a home semi.
    Tomorrow absolutely vital for Leinster.
    Munster defo out.

    And Connacht chasing 7th!

    Tell you what Connacht: if you do a job on Glasgow or ulster, we'll get ye into the Heino again.

    Pfft. You've already got it for us twice, it's like expecting jocks and socks at Christmas


  • Administrators Posts: 54,110 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Would like to think that's a home semi for us, but we've to to to Connacht.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    awec wrote: »
    Would like to think that's a home semi for us, but we've to to to Connacht.

    So do Glasgae!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    I think Munster will look back at those two shabby home defeats in Musgrave as the reason they are not in the playoff mix.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Munster can still get to 62 pints with 3 bp wins. Unlikely but still possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Ospreys
    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Munster can still get to 62 pints with 3 bp wins. Unlikely but still possible.

    It's irrelevant, there is no mathematical possibility of qualifying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    It's irrelevant, there is no mathematical possibility of qualifying.

    Aye, scarlets have 14 wins , so Munster are out on games won.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    durkadurka wrote: »
    Aye, scarlets have 14 wins , so Munster are out on games won.

    Ah is that the rule? Fair enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭durkadurka


    Munster
    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Ah is that the rule? Fair enough.

    League points, then games won, then points difference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Ospreys 14-3 up at home to Treviso at halftime, with one try scored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Ospreys 14-3 up at home to Treviso at halftime, with one try scored.

    Finished 28-3, I assume they got the bonus point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    Ulster 71
    Leinster 68
    Glasgow 67
    Ospreys 62
    Scarlets 62
    Munster 48
    Treviso 39*
    Cardiff 38
    Connacht 36*
    Edinburgh 32
    Dragons 23
    Zebre 9

    *game in hand: Treviso vs Connacht

    REMAINING FIXTURES

    ULSTER: Connacht (A), Cardiff (H)

    LEINSTER: Zebre (A), Ospreys (H)

    GLASGOW: Ospreys (H), Connacht (A)

    OSPREYS: Glasgow (A), Leinster (A)

    SCARLETS: Cardiff (H), Treviso (H)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ospreys
    P_1 wrote: »
    Finished 28-3, I assume they got the bonus point

    no, they scored three tries


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