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Introduction of clamping in Charlesland Crescent and Wood

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    #542
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    Because they didn't need to introduce disc parking

    So your position is that people paid Wise and therefore your new proposal is to bring back Wise and scrap clamping ?

    Brilliant!


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    Stall The Ball 101
    Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Stall The Ball 101


    Pablo Sanchez wrote: »
    How do you know this, ie what makes you say that the level of payments fell after the departure of Wyse?
    2011 wrote: »
    So your position is that people paid Wise and therefore your new proposal is to bring back Wise and scrap clamping ?

    Brilliant!

    No as I've said to you before wise were a lot more proactive in relation to arrears. I'm saying lets look at value for money and the reasons why people are not paying because people did not just stop paying for no reason.


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    #544
    matt-dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    No as I've said to you before wise were a lot more proactive in relation to arrears. I'm saying lets look at value for money and the reasons why people are not paying because people did not just stop paying for no reason.

    Fees have been reduced year on year for the last 5??


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    #545
    2011
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    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    No as I've said to you before wise were a lot more proactive in relation to arrears.

    In this post you state that people paid Wise.

    Then you went on to insist it in this post.

    So perhaps you can clarify, do you think that people paid Wise or not ?


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    #546
    Stall The Ball 101
    Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Stall The Ball 101


    2011 wrote: »
    In this post you state that people paid Wise.

    Then you went on to insist it in this post.

    So perhaps you can clarify, do you think that people paid Wise or not ?

    Course they did they were here until end 2010, I think the Management Company would have been on a sticky wicket if people hadn't been paying them in the 8 or so years they were agents, would you not think ?


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    #547
    matt-dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    Course they did they were here until end 2010, I think the Management Company would have been on a sticky wicket if people hadn't been paying them in the 8 or so years they were agents, would you not think ?
    Why do you think they're not here. Funds mismanagement is only part if the reason.

    They were agents for 5 and had severely bad practice across the board and some of the estates I believe potentially can take legal action against them


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    #548
    Stall The Ball 101
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    matt-dublin wrote: »
    Fees have been reduced year on year for the last 5??

    Most of the saving was made on the bus service


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    #549
    Stall The Ball 101
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    matt-dublin wrote: »
    Why do you think they're not here. Funds mismanagement is only part if the reason.

    They were agents for 5 and had severely bad practice across the board and some of the estates I believe potentially can take legal action against them

    Wow I thought they were a reputable company have to say thats news to me


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    matt-dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    Most of the saving was made on the bus service

    Not true, you really need to speak to someone on your committee before you make your statements as you very very wrong.

    The bus made a difference of only €50 to me but my fees are down 700 euro since 2009


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    #551
    Starlifter74
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Starlifter74


    Stall the Ball, I can categorically say that management fees when Wyse were in charge were not fully paid, we tried all routes through the legal process but these do not work hence the introduction of clamping. All owners were invited to an AGM earler this year which from your earler post you did not attend, this was the opportunity to discuss the introduction of clamping, we have issued a 12 month contract with APCOA so the earliest this will be reviewed will be next year, Moaning about something on this forum on an issue you had opportunity to input and comment on at the AGM will change nothing. Its unfortunate that a few irresponsible people (not you) spoil things for the remainder of us, non payment of fees puts the company and saleability of all properties at risk.


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    #552
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,583 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    @ Stall the ball, perhaps you now understand?

    Your suggestions have already been tried and have failed. Fees were not paid when you thought they were. From what I can see the discision to introduce clamping was not taken lightly.

    As I said before I hate the idea of clamping, but it would seem that there is no other option.


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    #553
    Stall The Ball 101
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    Starlifter74 wrote: »
    Stall the Ball, I can categorically say that management fees when Wyse were in charge were not fully paid, we tried all routes through the legal process but these do not work hence the introduction of clamping. All owners were invited to an AGM earler this year which from your earler post you did not attend, this was the opportunity to discuss the introduction of clamping, we have issued a 12 month contract with APCOA so the earliest this will be reviewed will be next year, Moaning about something on this forum on an issue you had opportunity to input and comment on at the AGM will change nothing. Its unfortunate that a few irresponsible people (not you) spoil things for the remainder of us, non payment of fees puts the company and saleability of all properties at risk.

    With respect, where and when I wish to express an opinion is of no concern to you


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    matt-dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    With respect, where and when I wish to express an opinion is of no concern to you

    It is when you express it on a public forum???


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    #555
    2011
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    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    With respect, where and when I wish to express an opinion is of no concern to you

    If you want to be taken seriously it helps if your opinion that has something in common with reality :)


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    #556
    Stall The Ball 101
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    matt-dublin wrote: »
    It is when you express it on a public forum???

    Pot and kettle :)


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    Starlifter74
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Starlifter74


    Your opinion is 100% incorrect....your kind of wasting your time and everyone elses who has been actively involved in the committees and inputing into the running of the development. anyhow continue expressing your opinion, perhapse next time you will make the effort to attend the AGM/EGM and input in the right arena when your suggestions could be listened to and considered. I would welcome your input along with anyone else who feels we are not working for everones benifit.


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    #558
    Stall The Ball 101
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    Starlifter74 wrote: »
    Your opinion is 100% incorrect....your kind of wasting your time and everyone elses who has been actively involved in the committees and inputing into the running of the development. anyhow continue expressing your opinion, perhapse next time you will make the effort to attend the AGM/EGM and input in the right arena when your suggestions could be listened to and considered. I would welcome your input along with anyone else who feels we are not working for everones benifit.

    Fair point, AGM's where never really my thing. But if I've learnt anything from the introduction of disc parking, it is the importance of attending them


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    #559
    Annasopra
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    Starlifter74 wrote: »
    Your opinion is 100% incorrect....your kind of wasting your time and everyone elses who has been actively involved in the committees and inputing into the running of the development. anyhow continue expressing your opinion, perhapse next time you will make the effort to attend the AGM/EGM and input in the right arena when your suggestions could be listened to and considered. I would welcome your input along with anyone else who feels we are not working for everones benifit.

    Surely the AGM cannot be the only place to put forward opinions or suggestions though? Are the board of directors uncontactable between AGMs?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #560
    matt-dublin
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    mango salsa wrote: »
    Surely the AGM cannot be the only place to put forward opinions or suggestions though? Are the board of directors uncontactable between AGMs?

    I know we are and also the agent is available and relays messages.

    Also there's email addresses in the contacts thread in this forum


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    #561
    Stall The Ball 101
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    matt-dublin wrote: »
    I know we are and also the agent is available and relays messages.

    Also there's email addresses in the contacts thread in this forum

    To be fair sometimes it feels like your stonewalled by the agent and they told me I could not contact the board directly myself...I guess thats whats the frustrating thing about all this


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    matt-dublin
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    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    To be fair sometimes it feels like your stonewalled by the agent and they told me I could not contact the board directly myself...I guess thats whats the frustrating thing about all this

    Which agents told you that?? We have a general email address for the crescent and I'm sure the other estates do too


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    #563
    Stall The Ball 101
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    matt-dublin wrote: »
    Which agents told you that?? We have a general email address for the crescent and I'm sure the other estates do too

    Matt you know full well what agent we have and as you have stated you are a director and it just goes to show how disconnected you are to the members if you think that when someone approaches the agent with a problem that they give you an email address for the board, even when you request it.


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    #564
    matt-dublin
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    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    Matt you know full well what agent we have and as you have stated you are a director and it just goes to show how disconnected you are to the members if you think that when someone approaches the agent with a problem that they give you an email address for the board, even when you request it.
    I'm a director of ONE estate in charlesland.

    If you're in the court you're with farrels, everywhere else is KW and seabourne are going solo from August.

    I'm not disconnected at all, I'm pretty sure I'm 1000% more connected and in time with what's going on than what you are.

    KW relays all complaints to us and not only that the email addresses for the estates are listed in this forum in the contacts thread


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    #565
    matt-dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    Here's the link if you need them. I notice the wood, park, grove and court don't appear to be listed there but the crescent and seabourne are

    http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2056715494/1/#post80002794


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    Stall The Ball 101
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    matt-dublin wrote: »
    I'm a director of ONE estate in charlesland.

    KW relays all complaints to us and not only that the email addresses for the estates are listed in this forum in the contacts thread

    Thats my point Matt I am a paid up member and as one I think I should be afforded the right to contact the Directors myself and not be left going through the paid middle man. If this was the case maybe you wouldn't have frustrated old fools like me venting their frustrations on a public forum


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    #567
    matt-dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    Thats my point Matt I am a paid up member and as one I think I should be afforded the right to contact the Directors myself and not be left going through the paid middle man. If this was the case maybe you wouldn't have frustrated old fools like me venting their frustrations on a public forum
    There's an email address there for you to send emails directly to us!!

    You're not in the crescent so our details are no use to you


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    #568
    Stall The Ball 101
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    matt-dublin wrote: »
    There's an email address there for you to send emails directly to us!!

    You're not in the crescent so our details are no use to you

    Well that is a credit it to you maybe the Directors in the wood should take note


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    Annasopra
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    Stall The Ball 101 wrote: »
    Well that is a credit it to you maybe the Directors in the wood should take note

    Theres an email address for the wood in that link

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #570
    Starlifter74
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Starlifter74


    The EMail address is on you newsletter assumng you opened and read that


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    #571
    Stall The Ball 101
    Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Stall The Ball 101


    Starlifter74 wrote: »
    The EMail address is on you newsletter assumng you opened and read that

    Hang on we get a newsletter now how often does this go around ?

    You would think then if an email address is so readily available that the agent would inform you of it when requested


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