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Ramifications of a conviction

  • 18-02-2013 4:25pm
    #1
    lycant
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭


    Hi all,
    There is a very strong possibility that I will be convicted on a charge of affray soon. I will graduate from UCC this summer and have intentions of travelling overseas for a postgrad and ultimately work.
    I
    would appreciate any info anyone might have re the following questions?

    How much of a career killer will this conviction be?
    Will it stop me getting a job in Ireland?
    What are the implications for travel?
    thanking you all in advance
    LY


Comments

  • #2
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    All depends on the job you want to do and the conviction. Your solicitor will be able to inform you of the issues in your situation.


  • #3
    lycant
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭lycant


    I have already broached the subject with him, but he is very vague.
    he talks about the indiscretions of youth being understood etc.
    I'm not so sure the honcho in the visa section of the US embassy would take such a cavalier view.
    Has anyone out there any direct experience?


  • #4
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    lycant wrote: »
    I have already broached the subject with him, but he is very vague.
    he talks about the indiscretions of youth being understood etc.
    I'm not so sure the honcho in the visa section of the US embassy would take such a cavalier view.
    Has anyone out there any direct experience?

    That sounds like code for the Probation of Offenders Act 1907, put simply if a person pleads guilty or is found guilty the matter can be struck out and no conviction recorded.

    Section 1 (1) (i) http://www.probation.ie/pws/websitepublishing.nsf/attachmentsbytitle/Probation+of+Offenders+Act+1907/$file/Probation+of+Offenders+Act+1907.pdf


  • #5
    dublin daz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭dublin daz


    US visa (waiver) asks: "have you ever been arrested or convicted for an offense or crime involving moral turpitude or a violation related to a controlled substance" - so if you do happen to be unlucky on the day and get a conviction its unlikely to affect your visa application.

    Conviction or not your court appearance will show on all Garda vetting reports - not the Police Cert.


  • #6
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    dublin daz wrote: »
    US visa (waiver) asks: "have you ever been arrested or convicted for an offense or crime involving moral turpitude or a violation related to a controlled substance" - so if you do happen to be unlucky on the day and get a conviction its unlikely to affect your visa application.

    Conviction or not your court appearance will show on all Garda vetting reports - not the Police Cert.

    Depending on the facts affray may or may not involve moral terpitude. The only real difference between, affray, violent disorder and riot are numbers involved.


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  • #7
    Procrastastudy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭Procrastastudy


    Get a decent solicitor and engage with any programs suggested such as AA or anger management.


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