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Enda Kenny gets emotional and cries live on TV

  • 19-02-2013 7:51pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭


    Live on RTE now........

    Is it genuine??

    Or


    Is it just a very good act and pandering to the public???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    Not genuine and not a good actor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Pepper has a lot to answer for.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Not genuine and not a good actor.


    Wonder did he cry at the bailout meeting and his announcement of that in the Dail?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Tefral


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Live on RTE now........

    Is it genuine??

    Or


    Is it just a very good act and pandering to the public???

    I call BS on that anyway.

    For some reason I can't stand listening to him.

    The only good thing to come out of it is at least there is now recognition and that a formal apology was issued.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    Yes, no one could not be moved by the stories and suffering these women endured.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    I'm sure his wage slip will cheer him up, on top of the 'showing up for work' bonus all the lads will get tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭robman60


    I can't believe people are so bloody cynical.
    It was clearly sincere and in no way feigned.

    Some people never stop complaining, jeez.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    fatknacker wrote: »
    Yes, no one could not be moved by the stories and suffering these women endured.

    This.

    Spend hours listening to the absolute horror stories of some of those women and I'd wager you'd be just as moved and just as genuine.

    Don't like the guy but it was an appropriate apology IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Fair play to him. I'm not a fan but today he showed grace, dignity and humanity in the apology.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Wonder did he cry at the bailout meeting and his announcement of that in the Dail?
    :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    fatknacker wrote: »
    Yes, no one could not be moved by the stories and suffering these women endured.


    ....yet they didn't include 800 pages of such testimony in the final report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,946 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Apology is to be welcomed (and long overdue!) but I don't buy Kenny's "sincerity" at all.. too well timed (as was the theatrical look towards the public gallery just beforehand).

    Just hope they get decent compensation for the suffering they endured now so they can live out the remainder of their lives in some sort of comfort and peace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    I tell you what was annoying.. The TD's mobile phones a) going off and b) interfering with the mics when he was trying to speak... Sister Frances Bernadette would have beaten the crap out of them for that..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭kidneyfan


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....yet they didn't include 800 pages of such testimony in the final report.
    That isn't Enda Kenny's fault. His only fault is that he was naive enough to trust an FFer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Wonder did he cry at the bailout meeting and his announcement of that in the Dail?

    What are you on about?


  • Registered Users Posts: 483 ✭✭marialouise


    I started welling up just about a second before he cried. But if it was a rehearsed speech and he knew that bit was coming, if it was me I probably wouldn't have cried. I don't think he faked it. The mobile phones WERE annoying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    he didnt cry at all what the hell are you lot on about, he coughed near the end.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    Apology is to be welcomed (and long overdue!) but I don't buy Kenny's "sincerity" at all.. too well timed (as was the theatrical look towards the public gallery just beforehand).

    Just hope they get decent compensation for the suffering they endured now so they can live out the remainder of their lives in some sort of comfort and peace.


    So you dont think it was genuine then?


    Wonder what he cries about next so?


    I wouldnt be surprised if someone has placed a bet with paddy Power for what he will cry for and cry over next?????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    paddy147 wrote: »
    So you dont think it was genuine then?

    He's a politician, of course not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,946 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    paddy147 wrote: »
    So you dont think it was genuine then?


    Wonder what he cries about next so?


    I wouldnt be surprised if someone has placed a bet with paddy Power for what he will cry for and cry over next?????

    I think he was well prepared .. in fact just as he looked up I could easily imagine words on the page like..

    [look towards public gallery and pause for 3 seconds]

    Maybe I'm wrong, but having seen Kenny's public "performances" on almost a daily basis for the last few years I just don't buy it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Enda Kenny gets emotional and cries live on TV

    Live on RTE now........

    Is it genuine??

    Or


    Is it just a very good act and pandering to the public???

    That was his cum face.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Anyone who thinks it was genuine needs their head checked.Yes the experiences of these women has been horrendous and if anything Fianna Fail should be the party apologising.But the likelihood is,sadly,that Enda Kenny possibly didn't even write the speech personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    If Kenny was genuinly upset and cried , why did he wait til now to do it. He was asked about the laundries nearly on a daily basis for the last week or so and there was no emotion. I say it's for the cameras and the auld ones.
    Inda might get a part in pitch perfect 2 the way he's going!


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭hames


    This kind of embittered cynicism is very sad.

    I believe the Taoiseach spoke humbly and with sincerity. He is not a man to show his emotions, and often comes across as very rehearsed, but that was not rehearsed. He was visibly trying to avoid emotion. Accounts of his visit to the London ex Magdalene women say he spent three hours with them on the weekend and cried with them, listening to their stories.

    Such cynicism that the Taoiseach could find this emotional borders on a belittlement of the scale of what happened.

    As a Catholic I can only wish some senior figures in the Church would show similar sincerity and ask these women for their forgiveness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    He seemed genuine to me, it is an emotional story and he has spoken to some of the women so he knows what it was like for them.
    I know we all like to have a go at politicians but maybe this time he is acting as a concerned citizen rather than leader of the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom




    I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth
    The north side of my town faced east, and the east was facing south
    And now you dare to look me in the eye
    Those crocodile tears are what you cry
    It's a genuine problem, you won't try
    To work it out at all you just pass it by, pass it by


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....yet they didn't include 800 pages of such testimony in the final report.

    That doesn't mean he doesn't feel genuine remorse from what he has heard. He is a person first and listening to the first hand accounts from the survivors can only naturally provoke the same feelings as the Ryan and Murphy reports to anyone who has had the displeasure of reading them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    To be fair to him, he's not a robot. No doubt he feels the emotions involved in this terrible & tragic story.

    However, I'd be very surprised if this speech wasn't handed to him pre-written by a speech writer. I'm sure he read through it numerous times before it made it to being live on tv. I wouldn't buy into the crying thing at all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    Only fair really. He makes me cry every time I see him on TV.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 KittyChai


    Hmmmm Fine Gael are struggling in the popularity polls! He saw what shedding a few correctly timed tears did for Obama and took a leaf outta his book!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Well Ted, I'm very cynical as you know...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭eager tortoise


    You would need a heart of stone not to be moved by those stories that he mentioned, which he obviously heard in full and first-hand.

    The weight and import of what he was saying obviously overcame him; delivering a speech outlining the apology and the way in which the government intend to recompense the survivors, witnessed by a packed Dail and broadcast live. It was momentous to say the least, and a long time coming. The man is only human.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    EnterNow wrote: »
    To be fair to him, he's not a robot. No doubt he feels the emotions involved in this terrible & tragic story.

    However, I'd be very surprised if this speech wasn't handed to him pre-written by a speech writer. I'm sure he read through it numerous times before it made it to being live on tv. I wouldn't buy into the crying thing at all

    I'm sure he did not write the speech but i think his emotions did get the better of him, did he not cry at the politicians funeral as well a few month ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G Power


    hames wrote: »
    He is not a man to show his emotions, and often comes across as very rehearsed, but that was not rehearsed.

    ok and you know this how??

    get up the road if ya want people to think this fool does anything of his own accord!! his speeches, especially highly sensitive ones like this are completely pre-planned, with every blink and twitch worked out before hand, that's the joys of politics for ya


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I didn't see it, but I find it hard to believe it was completely genuine and heartfelt given his prior stonewall approach to dealing with the issue of an apology. It's not cynicism either. Fair play for the apology but it should have come on the day he read the report.. not after weeks of preparation and advice from spin merchants.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    HondaSami wrote: »
    I'm sure he did not write the speech but i think his emotions did get the better of him, did he not cry at the politicians funeral as well a few month ago.

    Was that on TV?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G Power


    mikom wrote: »
    Was that on TV?

    this is a very sensitive issue he was speaking of but your post made me

    ahahahahahahahahaha


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    I didn't see it, but I find it hard to believe it was completely genuine and heartfelt given his prior stonewall approach to dealing with the issue of an apology. It's not cynicism either. Fair play for the apology but it should have come on the day he read the report.. not after weeks of preparation and advice from spin merchants.

    It is better he took the time to read the report properly, discuss it with the survivors and give a genuine apology, instead of a quick reactionary one just to appease the masses.

    He even said he was going to go through the full report in two weeks time (two weeks ago). I don't know why people are getting their big brown panties in a twist over it. There were plenty of things going on when the report was published and I would rather he had the time to give his full attention to the matter, it has been 90 years coming, two weeks more isn't going to make it less genuine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    G Power wrote: »
    ok and you know this how??

    get up the road if ya want people to think this fool does anything of his own accord!! his speeches, especially highly sensitive ones like this are completely pre-planned, with every blink and twitch worked out before hand, that's the joys of politics for ya

    To be fair, on his last performances I do not think any amout of teaching could perfect him to be able to perform to this level, one of the reasons he hid form the people before the last election was he could not connect with the people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    mikom wrote: »
    Was that on TV?

    It was on my TV anyway dunno about yours unless we were watching the same thing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    Same as everything in this country... Nobody is held to account and the taxpayer foots the bill..


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭hames


    G Power wrote: »
    ok and you know this how??
    I'm giving my opinion. Same thing you did when you said
    G Power wrote: »
    his speeches, especially highly sensitive ones like this are completely pre-planned, with every blink and twitch worked out before hand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G Power


    To be fair, on his last performances I do not think any amout of teaching could perfect him to be able to perform to this level, one of the reasons he hid form the people before the last election was he could not connect with the people.

    it will give ya an insight into how bad politics and politicians have let things slip when even if he had cried us a river we'd have no way of knowing if he was genuine!!
    the world is upside down and those currently in charge if fixing it are not to be trusted!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    mikom wrote: »
    That was his cum face.
    Grow up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭starlings


    I don't think it matters what you think of Enda Kenny personally, if he actually wrote the speech himself or if he cried or coughed. It fell to him, as current Taoiseach, to make this apology on behalf of the State, the government and us.

    Should he take it back and kick the reports and apologies down the road for a future leader we approve of?

    The only reviews I'm interested in are those of the Magdalen women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    G Power wrote: »
    ok and you know this how??

    get up the road if ya want people to think this fool does anything of his own accord!! his speeches, especially highly sensitive ones like this are completely pre-planned, with every blink and twitch worked out before hand, that's the joys of politics for ya

    He might be a politician but that doesn't make him a robot, cop yourself on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    He might be a politician but that doesn't make him a robot, cop yourself on

    Well said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    I bet he was rubbing vicks under his eyes when no one was looking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    Bull **** , poor actor to be frank


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Never mind Enda. The disgrace of the attire Wallace and Claire Daly wore to the reading of this report. A luminous polo shirt on him and fùcking sunglasses on her.

    Have they no respect for Dáil Éireann?


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