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Vaccinations: are they trying to kill us, or is it all about the money?
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Palinpropism wrote: »Threads like this should be shut down. Does it not fall in the realm of medical advice in that people are trying to persuade people to take one type of treatment over another. In this instance it's a worry...I worry for the people who could be and possibly are convinced by some of the crap that some posters spew. I don't worry for the people that actually spend their time trying to convince people that vaccines are actually bad for you...that's natural selection at work.
So what should you suggest we do then? Look through reality through rose tinted glasses, take everything we are given and do what we are told. Better yet just completely hand over our own authority to someone else because they know better right? Is that the reality you want?
Seems a bit odd that you'd "suddenly" come on this thread to make such a bol statement....
So we should just keep stating vaccines are good, and let there be no having people saying they don't agree to it is that it. What a lovely fascist society we are moving into
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Perfect example of your lack of knowledge of vaccines and disease control. Unfortunately 2 of my sisters are also this ignorant when it comes to vaccines. One led the other.
The reason those babies are not dead is because the vast majority in this country are vaccinated meaning these children are much less likely to come in contact with deadly diseases.
The risk however is that Ireland is just 1 or 2 flights away from a country that still has breakouts of deadly diseases. Also the other risk is that small pods of unvaccinated children can start to appear as one idiot convinces another idiot and before you know it you have a group of children who are in contact with each other regularly but who are all unvaccinated. This is the case with my sister's kids and one or two of their friends.
Its very hard to change their minds when they made their decision based on books they read that are full of very bad science (looking at you "doctor" sears). You can try to explain the science of why what they read is wrong but they have already been brain washed into believing that anyone who advocates for vaccines is just brain washed by big pharma so the evidence no longer matters.
... That is all...
But on a serious note, I know plenty of adults who are not vaccinated and they are very healthy. Your posts are It's not on books they've read, it's common sense. We have immune system and our body is capable of fighting diseases. I had everything as a kid, and my own immune system fought well. I also didn't recieve a full vaccination as a kid.;) I'm perfectly healthy.
Still won't take them.0 -
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Aquarius34 wrote: »Well it's no secret that getting an education is all about conditioning the masses to get in line and fall in line.
I keeping track here..
So far its..
Doctors
Education
Science
Mass media
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hooradiation wrote: »Fine, well lets see, I'll offer up the near eradication of polio and the total eradication of smallpox as a net good for the human race and therefore for the vaccine that made that possible.
What do you have?
The elite create diseases and create vaccines, it's called making profit and it's called population control and eugenics. It's too obvious for me to want or need to explain it especially to you hooradition
It's problem, reaction, solution program at it's finest.
I didn't die from small pox or any illness and I wasn't vaccinated. Strange isn't it. I know quite a lot of people and elite too who don't vaccinate themselves. Strange isn't.
Hooradition, you are not responsible for other people, why are you supporting vaccination to prevent people from getting killed of small pox when you can try support campaigns against drug and war crimes perhaps? I mean 2 million Iraqies died through war just a few years ago. I don't see you posting up about these things at all and I don't see you worrying about human casualty either. Let's not forget how many millions the western governments are responsible for killing since the first world. But you're more concerned about vaccination. Isn't that so interesting. So with all that out on the surface, why should we support our elitist governments on vaccinations?
It's quite startling to me, especially when vaccination is done to dumb people down. The truth is getting out and yes the reptilians are obviously not catching on or realising this fact. It just makes the reptilian elite all the more pathetic to think they can try continue to control the human race when it's already falling apart.
I love talking to you Hooradition on all these subjects0 -
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Aquarius34 wrote: »The elite create diseases and create vaccines, it's called making profit and it's called population control and eugenics. It's too obvious for me to want or need to explain it especially to you hooradition It's problem, reaction, solution program at it's finest.
I didn't die from small pox or any illness and I wasn't vaccinated. Strange isn't it. I know quite a lot of people and elite too who don't vaccinate themselves. Strange isn't.
Not strange at all; nobody has said that everyone will get diseases if they're not vaccinated. Nor did anyone say that everyone who gets the diseases will die. So, what's your point? Is that perhaps a strawman argument that is used to deflect from the real issue?
You seem to be a bit confused and are conflating all sorts of conspiracies. If they're interested in population control, then why introduce the vaccines at all? They've created the diseases, so just let the diseases kill people and the population will be controlled. Job done. How do the vaccines feature in this?0 -
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Aquarius34 wrote: »The elite create diseases and create vaccines, it's called making profit and it's called population control and eugenics. It's too obvious for me to want or need to explain it especially to you hooradition It's problem, reaction, solution program at it's finest.
No, sorry. You don't get to simply make grandiose claims without backing them up.
"the elite create disease" - so they created measles, mumps, rubella, malaria, polio, smallpox just to name a few.
You're going to need to show your work on that one.Aquarius34 wrote: »I didn't die from small pox or any illness and I wasn't vaccinated. Strange isn't it.
You didn't die from smallpox because we eradicated it 1977, with vaccines
So, it's not strange.Aquarius34 wrote: »Hooradition, you are not responsible for other people, why are you supporting vaccination to prevent people from getting killed of small pox when you can try support campaigns against drug and war crimes perhaps?
You assume one precludes the other - you are wrong.Aquarius34 wrote: »I mean 2 million Iraqies died through war just a few years ago. I don't see you posting up about these things at all and I don't see you worrying about human casualty either. Let's not forget how many millions the western governments are responsible for killing since the first world. But you're more concerned about vaccination. Isn't that so interesting. So with all that out on the surface, why should we support our elitist governments on vaccinations?
Because vaccinations work, they have been proven to work and they do good.Aquarius34 wrote: »It's quite startling to me, especially when vaccination is done to dumb people down.
Care to demonstrate this, empirical facts please, not your standard avoidance.Aquarius34 wrote: »The truth is getting out and yes the reptilians are obviously not catching on or realising this fact. It just makes the reptilian elite all the more pathetic to think they can try continue to control the human race when it's already falling apart.
There are no such things as reptilians - though I suppose it does help to pretend that your imagined foes aren't human. Nothing quite like the fake moral certainty that comes from casting your enemies as less than human.
Quite an old trickAquarius34 wrote: »I love talking to you Hooradition on all these subjects
Yes, well it is my fault for enabling you.
But I hold to the hope that eventually, when you run out of stories to tell, when you abandon your "i'm an alien" shtick and when you run out of ways to dodge even the most basic of questions, you'll eventually post something that isn't riddled with pure fantasy, logical fallacies and make believe.
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Aids is one.hooradiation wrote: »No, sorry. You don't get to simply make grandiose claims without backing them up.
"the elite create disease" - so they created measles, mumps, rubella, malaria, polio, smallpox just to name a few.
You're going to need to show your work on that one.
You need to work on it, but I know you won't tehee.You didn't die from smallpox because we eradicated it 1977, with vaccines
So, it's not strange.
We create new illnesses now, and the list is going through the roof. With all this technological (cough) know how, Why is cancer rates sky rocketing? Why are young people getting cancer? Why are young children getting so many different mental problems? Why is ADHD on the rise? Autism? depression? and so many other "physical and mental problems.
Makes you wonder, by the mighty power morphin vaccinations.
lol, no I am not.You assume one precludes the other - you are wrong.
A family member took the flu vaccine, ( Which I was against) and she still gets the flu.Because vaccinations work, they have been proven to work and they do good.
People have died from vaccinations also.
They don't work.
All the facts are pretty evidential.Care to demonstrate this, empirical facts please, not your standard avoidance.There are no such things as reptilians - though I suppose it does help to pretend that your imagined foes aren't human. Nothing quite like the fake moral certainty that comes from casting your enemies as less than human.
Quite an old trick
I know you'd especially say that Hooradition.Yes, well it is my fault for enabling you.
But I hold to the hope that eventually, when you run out of stories to tell, when you abandon your "i'm an alien" shtick and when you run out of ways to dodge even the most basic of questions, you'll eventually post something that isn't riddled with pure fantasy, logical fallacies and make believe.
But you'll probably be banned long before then.
You're running out of your own tricks.0 -
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Slightly OT, but only slightly
Have you all heard about the TB outbreak in Los Angeles, there are a few decent threads on GLP, talking about the TB outbreak, which incidently is a drug resistant strain, and also threads about a young lady found dead in the water tank of the Cecil Hotel LA.
Heres the strange part, the young lady was named Elisa Lam.
There is seemingly a test for TB, called Lam Elisa. Very coincidental.
ANyways the threads are a good read.
Cant write anymore as this took me ages to write, due to the fact my internet access is brutal and my computer is on its last legs. Didnt think Id get this far writing. 0 -
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