Vaccinations: are they trying to kill us, or is it all about the money?

Aquarius34

Dave! wrote: »

I die a little inside when I read yours.

It's depressing knowing people like you are out there spreading misinformation and endangering children's lives.

The thing is, I am not spreading misinformation. I am spreading awareness and encouraging others to take responsibility for themselves. It's not rocket science to do that you know. Our bodies are capable of doing extraordinary things and we don't need governments and doctors to fill us up with heavy metals and synethic drugs in order to actually survive in the world. If you want to drug yourself and get doped on vaccines, by all means do. I certainly am not going to
force or encourage people to do so. You are been quite malicious making these claims against me. But what else would I expect from you.

Humans are so dumbed down now to the point that we would be the first species on the planet to be wiped out if it ever came to a world wide disaster. We don't have the capability to survive harsh conditions or deal with nature anymore. We are so completely dependent on a corrupt system to the point that we NOW live our lives to only support it. We can't even support ourselves. We can't even allow our own immune system to develop anymore. We can't even use our brains anymore, we just allow outside bodies to think for us.

You need to wake up and that is your issue. Projecting your own issues at me, isn't helping you with that.

Dave!

More bluster and rhetoric...

Onto ignore you go.

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Humans are so dumbed down now, that we would be the first species on the planet to be wiped out if it ever came to a world wide disaster. We are so completely dependent on a corrupt system to the point that we NOW live our lives to only support it. We can't even support ourselves. We can't even allow our own immune system to develop anymore. We can't even use our brains anymore, we just allow outside bodies to think for us.

Absolutely none of this is true in the slightest.

It is however, a lovely example of the vacuousness of teenage nihilism.

Aquarius34

hooradiation wrote: »

Absolutely none of this is true in the slightest.

It is however, a lovely example of the vacuousness of teenage nihilism.

Your opinion doesn't overide reality

Aquarius34

Dave! wrote: »

More bluster and rhetoric...

Onto ignore you go.

Thanks I appreciate this, I won't have to witness so much insult and immaturity from now on.

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Your opinion doesn't overide reality

Reality however overrides your sulky misconceptions.

We're one of the most adaptive species on the planet, the idea that we'd be first against the wall in the case of a global disaster is nonsense. No other species would be better suited to the task. We are masters at adapting our environment to suit us.
Now, it wouldn't be sunshine and lollipops, but this childish "uhh you humans are all doomed, cos... umm, I have a low opinion of you" can go fuck right off.

As for our immune systems, this all stems from your willful misunderstandings on how they work and what vaccines actually do.
As for not using our brains? What nonsense is this? Every thread you have participated in is full of posts from people who have used their brains to ask you questions and point out things that do not seem to make sense.
If you're frustrated that nobody seems to accept your stories blindly I guess it's comforting to pretend that they are simply stupid, as opposed to the more likely scenario that your inability to articulate what you believe beyond the occasional smiley face and TLA does you no favours, and effectively renders your ideas, no matter their merit, stillborn.

You can't blame other people for your continued failings in the field of articulation and conversation.

Aquarius34

hooradiation wrote: »

Reality however overrides your sulky misconceptions.

We're one of the most adaptive species on the planet, the idea that we'd be first against the wall in the case of a global disaster is nonsense. No other species would be better suited to the task. We are masters at adapting our environment to suit us.

We are not, if we were we wouldn't need to use vaccines. We are doing very well in trying to destroy the planet and kill each other. Not a sign of an adapting species at all, considering how large our brains are.

Now, it wouldn't be sunshine and lollipops, but this childish "uhh you humans are all doomed, cos... umm, I have a low opinion of you" can go fuck right off.

Aren't you sulking now. Let's show a contradiction. I'll quote your own posts

Reality overrides your sulking misconceptions.

Talk about mirror effect. lol..

As for our immune systems, this all stems from your willful misunderstandings on how they work and what vaccines actually do.
As for not using our brains? What nonsense is this? Every thread you have participated in is full of posts from people who have used their brains to ask you questions and point out things that do not seem to make sense.
If you're frustrated that nobody seems to accept your stories blindly I guess it's comforting to pretend that they are simply stupid, as opposed to the more likely scenario that your inability to articulate what you believe beyond the occasional smiley face and TLA does you no favours, and effectively renders your ideas, no matter their merit, stillborn.

You can't blame other people for your continued failings in the field of articulation and conversation.

Unreal, how hypothetical you come across. It's honestly amusing.

Hoop66

I'm not trying to be awkward here, Aquarius, I'm really not. I would love for you to tell me, without resorting to "lol", a thowaway comment or a smiley face, what evidence you have for your belief that the human species is oppressed and struggling to function. And what evidence you have that vaccines, for instance, are killing us.

If you have evidence, not just opinions, then I am truly, honestly, interested in hearing it.

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

We are not, if we were we wouldn't need to use vaccines

This does not follow in the slightest. Even ignoring your fascination with what you think vaccines do, our entire history is one of bending nature to our will.
Don't believe me?
Irrigation.
We take water to where we want it to be, so we can live there.
That is what we do, it's why we're the dominant species on the planet.

The idea that we simply could not do what we're already doing is a fantasy.

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Aren't you sulking now. Let's show a contradiction. I'll quote your own posts

Talk about mirror effect. lol..

There is no contradiction there.
Your entire misconception about, well everything, all seems to stem from your low opinion of other people. Presumably because your tirades against "the system" require everyone else to be stupid so you seem intelligent.

Our entire history as a species shows your stance to be questionable at best.

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Unreal, how hypothetical you come across. It's honestly amusing.

Hypothetical?
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Aquarius34

hooradiation wrote: »

This does not follow in the slightest. Even ignoring your fascination with what you think vaccines do, our entire history is one of bending nature to our will.
Don't believe me?
Irrigation.
We take water to where we want it to be, so we can live there.
That is what we do, it's why we're the dominant species on the planet.

The idea that we simply could not do what we're already doing is a fantasy.

It's all your own facination at work, not mine.

There is no contradiction there.
Your entire misconception about, well everything, all seems to stem from your low opinion of other people. Presumably because your tirades against "the system" require everyone else to be stupid so you seem intelligent.

Our entire history as a species shows your stance to be questionable at best.

That's because you cant see your own contradictions. If you did, maybe then you wouldn't be so contradictory. You've have been called this before by other posters too!. You sulk whenever someone dissagrees with you and your way of dealing with your own behaviour is to contradict yourself and project your own issues onto other's. It amazes how often you do it. That's why I just laugh to be honest. It's quite funny.

Hypothetical?
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

I do, I got mixed up in my words, I meant you are been "hypocritical"

keelanj69

Hypothetical? Seems more like a Freudian Slip to me.

Aquarius34

keelanj69 wrote: »

Hypothetical? Seems more like a Freudian Slip to me.

Wouldn't seem so for someone who supports vaccines.

Wibbs

La Buka wrote: »

Autism, ADHD, Alzheimer's are all massively on the rise too. And we're told the reason is better screening. But seriously ask your grandparents, or any elderly person you might know if they'd ever heard of ADHD or Autism when they were younger. I bet they'll tell you they hadn't. I don't believe this was ignorance on their part. I just don't think these things existed as commonly as they are now. And I don't believe it was because they now have better screening.

It's a multi factoral thing LB with anything like this. I don't think it's just down to better screening/diagnosis, or just more older people in the case of various dementias. They're most certainly big factors, but there may be other ones.

EG expansion of criteria, some would say over medicalisation of conditions that would have been off the radar a couple of generations ago. Take depression and the range of depressive illnesses. These for the sake of this argument wouldn't be longevity related. Bipolar depression(manic depression as it was called) was considered quite the rare illness 30 years ago. Unipolar depression was the majority type. The reported incidence of it today has risen dramatically(as has unipolar). Better diagnosis and screening? Maybe, but bipolar is not a condition that easily hides it's light under a bushel, it's quite an obvious one to spot somethings not right, even to a layman. So why the increase? Again lots of factors, however the expansion of criteria for diagnosis is one(not unlike the autism spectrum). It's "easier" to be labeled, diagnosed and treated as bipolar today. Ditto for unipolar. My own "conspiracy theory"? I have the concern that over proscribing of some depression medications(prozac type and similar) may be turning what would be a transient unipolar condition into a more chronic bipolar condition in some individuals. The near epidemic of mental illness in the west is one that is very interesting to me. Again there are going to be many factors in the rise and some IMHO aren't so obvious.

As for longevity, we've always had old people. The biggest change in life expectancy in the last 150 years has been the huge drop in childhood mortality, rather than a drop in mortality towards the end of life. The latter has only really been affected in the last 30 odd years. Clean water, better living conditions, antibiotics and yep immunisation were the big factors there. So we've always had old people, yet old age was more associated with wisdom throughout history rather than dementia. So why the change? IMHO maybe(on top of the rising numbers of elderly) it's down to other factors like diet. Vitamin E, C and D appear to have a protective effect, so maybe the drop in those in the diet increases the potential in a population? Plus many more people live beyond childhood that would otherwise have died, so just maybe we saw less of dementia in the past simply because those who survived childhood were already stronger to start with so were less likely to succumb.

On the immunisation front? While I most certainly see the huge advantages of the science and it's been one of humanities greatest discoveries, I do wonder are we "softening" our immune systems a little? Like antibiotics are another of humanities greatest discoveries, but look at the developing mess on that score because of overuse. Is it possible that overuse of vaccines may have a similar trajectory? I'm really not so sure TBH, but I do think it an interesting question to pose.

Full disclosure, the only vaccine I've had in my life was the oul polio on a sugarlump when I was a kid. No marks on upper arms or any of that. No real plan on the part of my parents. I missed the arm yokes cos I mitched from school on the deeply scientific principle of "needles? ask me bollex" and like all of my mates in the 70's I contracted measles, mumps, chicken pox, rubella and a goodly assortment of other snotty lurgies growing up and I'm fine *drools, twitches*

hooradiation

Aquarius34 wrote: »

It's all your own facination at work, not mine.

Only one of us is constantly railing against the good vaccines do with unfounded accusations. Claiming your fascination with vaccinations is mine is one of the more bizarre claims you've made.
But i'm beginning to suspect your refusal to read is having more of a negative impact on your ability to express yourself than you'd be willing to admit.

Aquarius34 wrote: »

That's because you cant see your own contradictions. If you did, maybe then you wouldn't be so contradictory. You've have been called this before by other posters too!. You sulk whenever someone dissagrees with you and your way of dealing with your own behaviour is to contradict yourself and project your own issues onto other's. It amazes how often you do it. That's why I just laugh to be honest. It's quite funny.

You don't seem to know what a contradiction is, and relying on argumentum ad populum is never a good idea.
Leaving that aside, you've made various claims about the human race, vaccines and many other subjects, but when pressed you don't seem to have any intention of standing over them - preferring to attempt amateur analysis on those who question you.
Maybe you could stop running away from your own arguments long enough to actually say something more about them? This thread is littered with questions you've fled from, maybe you should consider addressing some of them?

Aquarius34 wrote: »

I do, I got mixed up in my words, I meant you are been "hypocritical"

Feel free to demonstrate this alleged hypocrisy at any time.

Brown Bomber

hooradiation wrote: »

Nope.
Not even slightly.

Still want to have a go at disproving what I said, hmm?

Why must you insist on lying? You can't keep lying your way out of lies. Your very clear case of plagiarism is well documented. You even were claiming to have read books that you haven't read but the blogger you stole from has ffs.

Accept it and we can move on,

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

On the immunisation front? While I most certainly see the huge advantages of the science and it's been one of humanities greatest discoveries, I do wonder are we "softening" our immune systems a little? Like antibiotics are another of humanities greatest discoveries, but look at the developing mess on that score because of overuse. Is it possible that overuse of vaccines may have a similar trajectory? I'm really not so sure TBH, but I do think it an interesting question to pose.

No, vaccines do not soften the immune system. They simply add immunity in the exact same way that normally contracting and fighting the virus does.
Any danger of them creating a resistant virus like antibiotics might is a non-issue because 1) it's the same as it naturally happening and 2) limits it's spread.

Wibbs

King Mob wrote: »

No, vaccines do not soften the immune system. They simply add immunity in the exact same way that normally contracting and fighting the virus does.

Not quite. They're slightly different in how they create immunity. "Natural"* immunity differs in most cases from vaccination immunity. The former last longer and more of the body's immune system is involved. There are exceptions of course. EG tetanus vaccine is far more effective than naturally acquired immunity(if you even survive of course. Nasty business). HPV another one. Still even if natural immunity is better, it's far safer to immunise because of the risk of secondary infections in the natural course of many childhood illnesses. Now to be fair the risk of death from measles is 1 in a 1000. Fcuk all really, though not fcuk all if it happens to be your kid.











*I parenthesise the word because it's too often jumped on and lauded incorrectly by the hipie crystal healing brigade

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

Not quite. They're slightly different in how they create immunity. "Natural"* immunity differs in most cases from vaccination immunity.

I meant in the sense of the mechanism they use.

Wibbs

No that's my point. You said "They simply add immunity in the exact same way that normally contracting and fighting the virus does". They don't add immunity in the exact same way, hence you have differences in efficacy of immunity received depending on pathogen involved.

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

No that's my point. You said "They simply add immunity in the exact same way that normally contracting and fighting the virus does". They don't add immunity in the exact same way, hence you have differences in efficacy of immunity received depending on pathogen involved.

But again, I was referring to the mechanism by which they work which is the exact same.
Lymphocytes react to the antigens on wither the virus or the weaken viral material contained in the vaccine then store that immunity in memory B and T cells.

hooradiation

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Why must you insist on lying? You can't keep lying your way out of lies. Your very clear case of plagiarism is well documented. You even were claiming to have read books that you haven't read but the blogger you stole from has ffs.

Accept it and we can move on,

I said I'd found those books on google books and performed a full search to make sure the claims being made were correct before I put it forward. Y'know actually checking things out before deciding on them?
And you're more than welcome to perform the same search and prove me wrong if you'd like, might be more fruitful than your continued bleating.

A swing and a miss. Again.

Brown Bomber

hooradiation wrote: »

I said I'd found those books on google books and performed a full search to make sure the claims being made were correct before I put it forward. Y'know actually checking things out before deciding on them?
And you're more than welcome to perform the same search and prove me wrong if you'd like, might be more fruitful than your continued bleating.

A swing and a miss. Again.

I know what you said. The problem is that somebody else said it in exactly the same way before you did. Literally word for word at times.

Originally Posted by hooradiation
This all originates from a man called Charles E Perkins. Perkins was supposedly a chemist and/or researcher who wrote the book, "The Truth about Water Fluoridation".

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Perkins was supposedly a chemist and/or researcher who wrote the book, "The Truth about Water Fluoridation".
http://onespeedbikerpolitico.blogspo...-by-nazis.html

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Originally Posted by hooradiation
You can find a digitized version of that book online, and if you search it you'll find something odd.

(you even used the American "digitized" here much like your American friend)

A search of the internet of Charles E Perkins revealed a digitized version of the book, "The Truth about Water Fluoridation".
http://onespeedbikerpolitico.blogspo...-by-nazis.html

Originally Posted by hooradiation
He believed fluoridated water started as a communist plot, but the book contains no mention of the use of fluoride by the Nazis at all.

It's word for word here.

He also believed fluoridated water started as a communist plot, but the book contains no mention of the use of fluoride by the Nazis at all. [
http://onespeedbikerpolitico.blogspo...-by-nazis.html

It couldn't be clearer that you've plagiarised so lets move on but remember this the next time you are calling someone a liar.

Jonny7

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I know what you said. The problem is that somebody else said it in exactly the same way before you did. Literally word for word at times.

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(you even used the American "digitized" here much like your American friend)

It's word for word here.

It couldn't be clearer that you've plagiarised so lets move on but remember this the next time you are calling someone a liar.

We all plagiarise. I will often repeat something I have read, listened to or watched years ago, word for word.

My knowledge of Stalingrad is based on Anthony Beaver's work, not my own.

Don't complain about threads getting dragged to the depths when this is pretty much scraping rock bottom.

Brown Bomber

Jonny7 wrote: »

We all plagiarise. I will often repeat something I have read, listened to or watched years ago, word for word.

You can repeat something "word for word" that you read "years ago"? Forget Jonny7 you must be Jonny 5.

Jonny7 wrote: »

Don't complain about threads getting dragged to the depths when this is pretty much scraping rock bottom.

Lets rewind here.

He called me out for lying on something, when I wasn't. Plagiarists don't get to question anyone's integrity as they have completely discredited themselves.

This conversation would never have happened if a) he didn't plagiarise and b) didn't falsely accuse others of lying. This conversation wouldn't be continuing to happen if he wasn't lying again to try and lie his way out of his literary theft which is undeniable.

Lingua Franca

He didn't call you out for lying about something. He made a lame joke, get over it.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Nobody has put a gun to your head to come in here have they? Don't worry your insults won't be missed.

hooradiation wrote: »

Lies.
I'd miss dave! and his talent for pointing out the degenerate nonsense that often gets posted here.

Your immense overreaction isn't even amusing.

You're totally derailing the thread with your personal vendetta.

You are more interested in attacking anyone with a different view to yours than the subject of vaccines. Why is that?

Any chance you could knock it on the head and post something relevant?

Brown Bomber

Lingua Franca wrote: »

He didn't call you out for lying about something. He made a lame joke, get over it.

Your immense overreaction isn't even amusing.

You're totally derailing the thread with your personal vendetta.

You are more interested in attacking anyone with a different view to yours than the subject of vaccines. Why is that?

Any chance you could knock it on the head and post something relevant?

Plagiarists don't get to call anyone out for any form of dishonesty. That is all. Come back to me when you've read the comments from this thread and tell me pointing out a plagiarist has plagiarised is "attacking".

1. ignorant and superstitious people
   
2. a knave or a fool
   
3. anti-vax crazies
   
4. Hopefully you won't have children some day, because if you're so ignorant and irresponsible about this topic, I dread to think in what other areas you'll be negligent.
   
5. . I don't worry for the people that actually spend their time trying to convince people that vaccines are actually bad for you...that's natural selection at work.
   
6. utterly contemptibly stupid

What is strange is that you know my "view on vaccines" when I don't know myself.

Lingua Franca

Good grief... give it over! No one cares but you!

Accept it and we can move on.

Lingua Franca

Lingua Franca wrote: »

Impressive, given that there is NO SUCH THING. You might have received anti malaria medication but you were not vaccinated (innoculated with a small amount of inactive pathogen to develop an adaptive immune response) against it.

Drat. I was going to say that (or words to that effect).

Anyway, as I said earlier but as some of the conspiracy lovers seem to be unwilling to accept, anyone in Ireland who has not been vaccinated against measles, mumps, diphtheria, or pertussis and who has not contracted those diseases has only one source to thank......





.....vaccinations.


That is an incontrovertible fact.

Brown Bomber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

a knave or a fool

Yep, I said that, and I stand over it.

Only a knave or a fool would call for the pain, misery and death of more than 4 million children a year.

Shame on anyone who does that - no excuses and no exceptions.

Brown Bomber

Deleted User wrote: »

Yep, I said that, and I stand over it.

Only a knave or a fool would call for the pain, misery and death of more than 4 million children a year.

Shame on anyone who does that - no excuses and no exceptions.

...???

Who has called for the death of 4 million children a year? The Pharoah in Moses' time?

Brown Bomber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

...???

Who has called for the death of 4 million children a year?

Those who oppose vaccinations against measles.

Knaves or fools. No excuses, no exceptions.

Brown Bomber

Deleted User wrote: »

Those who oppose vaccinations against measles.

Knaves or fools. No excuses, no exceptions.

Point out a single specific example.

Jonny7

Brown Bomber wrote: »

What is strange is that you know my "view on vaccines" when I don't know myself.

In a thread on vaccinations.

Noted.

hooradiation

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I know what you said. The problem is that somebody else said it in exactly the same way before you did


It couldn't be clearer that you've plagiarised so lets move on but remember this the next time you are calling someone a liar.

We've been through this before, you know full well that I've borrowed convenient words when I was certain the material was correct.
Your continued insistence to the contrary is irrelevant.

I am right in what I wrote. You are welcome to challenge those facts if you want.

Brown Bomber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Point out a single specific example.

Stay linear, dude. No-one with any sense of rationality or compassion could say or do anything in opposition to vaccination programmes - of which measles vaccination is a shining example - that have achieved so much in terms of ending needless suffering and death.

No-one. No excuses, no exceptions, no cop-outs, no ifs or buts.

Brown Bomber

Deleted User wrote: »

Stay linear, dude. No-one with any sense of rationality or compassion could say or do anything in opposition to vaccination programmes - of which measles vaccination is a shining example - that have achieved so much in terms of ending needless suffering and death.

No-one. No excuses, no exceptions, no cop-outs, no ifs or buts.

:rolleyes:

So nobody has actually called for the deaths of 4 million children then I take it? Could you perhaps then withdraw this asinine statement?

Brown Bomber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

:rolleyes:

So nobody has actually called for the deaths of 4 million children then I take it? Could you perhaps then withdraw this asinine statement?

Ah, I see you're in favour of the vaccination programmes run by various governmental health authorities in different countries, and supported by the WHO.

Cool, but in that case you're not the one looking to have children suffering, so you can chill and stop being rude.

Aquarius34

Deleted User wrote: »

Those who oppose vaccinations against measles.

Knaves or fools. No excuses, no exceptions.

Would you ever knock off the hitler stomps, People have choices and you're not in the authority of other people's choices as to what they do or don't to their bodies. If you don't even care to respect that, then why should anyone believe that you care about all these people who you think should be saved by "vaccination"

There are always exceptions. There are other routes to protect ourselves from illness. There are preventive methods. There is such a thing as called seeking knowledge as a means to understand how our bodies work and fight against disease. The obvious is always amiss in what we should be doing in order to strengthen ourselves against illness and disease.

This system is barbaric and what the system actively does is keeps us dependent on it for corrupt and profit means. We don't need drugs, vaccines and medications whatsoever. I don't take drugs, medications and vaccines.

I am still alive. Shocking I know.... Anyone who is mindful and responsible for their own health will not take vaccines and will not put vaccines into their children. We live in a society where we do not know half of what we ingest and put into our bodies. We do not read food labels. We do not take note that all the processed food is actually killing us. We do not take note of what harmful substances that are in most drugs and vaccines. We do not even realise that most medications are very bad for our bodies long term. Anti depressants for example should not be given to people as it causes serious chemical imbalances in the brain and instead of dealing with the depression it masks it and makes it worse.

The problem here is our dependency on all these synethic chemicals and drug's. Quite a few posters had consistently stated this and it's interesting to see it been ignored and it's even more startling to see the "skeptic" minded posters advocating vaccinations and screaming for it to the point that it has to make you go "hmm".;)

Dave!

It's funny to see posts like the one above on the same day as a news story reporting doctors having cured HIV in a newborn through early drug treatment. The contrast is quite striking.

I'm just recovering from a pretty bad ear infection/abscess which was treated with antibiotics (two courses in fact). Something tells me that if Aquarius34 or a family member were in the kind of pain and discomfort I was in, they would very quickly give up on ear candling, or whatever nonsense treatment they tried for it.

Jonny7

Aquarius34 wrote: »

We don't need drugs, vaccines and medications whatsoever.

Your life, your choices. You have a downright dangerous belief.

weisses

Dave! wrote: »

It's funny to see posts like the one above on the same day as a news story reporting doctors having cured HIV in a newborn through early drug treatment. The contrast is quite striking.

I'm just recovering from a pretty bad ear infection/abscess which was treated with antibiotics (two courses in fact). Something tells me that if Aquarius34 or a family member were in the kind of pain and discomfort I was in, they would very quickly give up on ear candling, or whatever nonsense treatment they tried for it.

Didn't you put him on ignore ?

Dave!

That was just a warning shot, he's on probation now

Aquarius34

Dave! wrote: »

It's funny to see posts like the one above on the same day as a news story reporting doctors having cured HIV in a newborn through early drug treatment. The contrast is quite striking.

I'm just recovering from a pretty bad ear infection/abscess which was treated with antibiotics (two courses in fact). Something tells me that if Aquarius34 or a family member were in the kind of pain and discomfort I was in, they would very quickly give up on ear candling, or whatever nonsense treatment they tried for it.

All diseases are curable. It doesn't take a doctor or a scientist to suddenly come up with a cure. Nature is a genius system. For every disease in nature, there is a cure for it. Just because you depend on scientists and doctors to look after you, doesn't mean cures don't exist because they haven't given it to you or hasn't shown you the "cures" for certain "illnesses".

Pharmaceuticals are not there to cure illness, there are there to make profit.

You seriously need to wake up!. I also thought you put me on ignore

Aquarius34

Jonny7 wrote: »

Your life, your choices. You have a downright dangerous belief.

Been responsible for self, is so dangerous Jonny. Oh the drama, I love it...

Dave!

Aquarius34 wrote: »

All diseases are curable. It doesn't take a doctor or a scientist to suddenly come up with a cure. Nature is a genius system. For every disease in nature, there is a cure for it. Just because you depend on scientists and doctors to look after you, doesn't mean cures don't exist because they haven't given it to you or hasn't shown you the "cures" for certain "illnesses".

Pharmaceuticals are not there to cure illness, there are there to make profit.

You seriously need to wake up!. I also thought you put me on ignore

So how does one treat a serious ear abscess in the absence of antibiotics?

Aquarius34

Dave! wrote: »

That was just a warning shot, he's on probation now

Sounds like the flu vaccine, it didn't work.

Aquarius34

Dave! wrote: »

So how does one treat a serious ear abscess in the absence of antibiotics?

Ever hear of "nature". I am actually shaking my head at this point. I don't take antibiotics. I know countless people who have not taken antibiotics. We don't need to depend on them at all. You actually truly have no clue Dave seriously. Do you take antibiotics everytime you get "Ill"? There are natural plants, herbs and treatments to help us deal with illness. But we choose the drug/antibiotic/vaccine route for everything which is synethic and unnatural to the body. This isn't good because it's not natural.

If I am in pain, I don't even take painkillers. I simply don't believe in them. Why? It doesn't solve the problem or heal the pain. It masks the pain by doping your nervous system. That is never good and should only ever be taken in extreme cases. But like I said already, we are a society doped and dependent on drugs and that in itself is alarming and it is not a healthy way to live at all.

Jonny7

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Been responsible for self, is so dangerous Jonny. Oh the drama, I love it...

A belief that people don't need medicines or drugs is a dangerous belief.

That isn't up for debate. It's just raw stupidity and ignorance.

But if you personally want to reject medical science, that's up to you. One in three will experience cancer in their life-time. Perfectly healthy people of any age can be struck down with any of thousands of differing diseases, ailments and conditions.. organ-threatening diseases to detached retinas to epilepsy.

But yeah, vitamins and internet homeopathy remedies

Aquarius34

Jonny7 wrote: »

A belief that people don't need medicines or drugs is a dangerous belief.

Encouraging drug use is also dangerous and drugs itself all have side effect and some are quite dangerous too.

Can't have it your way with this you know. But go on, I find your posts amusing to say the least.:D

That isn't up for debate. It's just raw stupidity and ignorance.

raw or cooked? Oh Jonny, you're getting really good with this.

But if you personally want to reject medical science, that's up to you. One in three will experience cancer in their life-time. Perfectly healthy people of any age can be struck down with any of thousands of differing diseases, ailments and conditions.. organ-threatening diseases to detached retinas to epilepsy.

But yeah, vitamins and internet homeopathy remedies

Again no, it's not as simple drawn out like you stated. You can be healthy and still get dis-ease yes. It's called what is known as surviving in the real world. Our bodies is capable of fighting disease and our bodies become stronger for it, once we immune ourselves naturally. Cancer is caused because of the society we built around us. We create reality. We create our own negativity. We create our own positivity. We create our own good or bad. We create our own cancers and trigger them due to how we live our lives and thus create and destroy in our lives. It's basic common sense.


Vitamin supplementation and homeopathy works, because it's natural and it's the study of what the body needs and what the body requires. Homeopathy is the holistic approach to health. But of course, you wouldn't know anything about that would you Jonny

Isn't it so interesting that you'd knock homeopathy. Oh Jonny I love talking to you.

Jonny7

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Again no, it's not as simple drawn out like you stated. You can be healthy and still get dis-ease yes. It's called what is known as surviving in the real world. Our bodies is capable of fighting disease and our bodies become stronger for it, once we immune ourselves naturally. Cancer is caused because of the society we built around us. We create reality. We create our own negativity. We create our own positivity. We create our own good or bad. We create our own cancers and trigger them due to how we live our lives and thus create and destroy in our lives. It's basic common sense.

Uh huh, and dogs "create" the cancer they get by like their negativity man

It's not common sense, it's a personal belief, your own personal belief.

Vitamin supplementation and homeopathy works, because it's natural and it's the study of what the body needs and what the body requires. Homeopathy is the holistic approach to health.

And this magic rock I have keeps away bears. Do you see any bears?