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missing bootmngr

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  • 20-02-2013 9:03pm
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    ftlnn
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I recently recently did a system restore from dvds i had made for a dell vostro 1220, vista. The restore all seemed to go fine until i rebooted and i got the bootmngr missing message I tried a number of the suggested recovery and repair options from the boot disc to no avail. I decided I would try and install xp but kept getting a blue screen (error message not to hand)
    I also tried a win 7 dvd only for it to tell me it hadnt the drivers for the dvd. I ran a chjdsk /f on the hd. I also wiped the hd using an ultimate boot cd utility, reinstaled the original backup and all seemed to go good but back to square 1, bootmngr message. I did think the hd may be effed but i ran diagjostics and no errors reported. I also scanned for viruses.

    Anything I have missed. I would take out the hd but it,s very awkward on this model and i'm not convinced it is the root of the problem.

    Ta...


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    #2
    Antar Bolaeisk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    If you've tried the normal options then take a look here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392

    It's likely that you only backed up the OS partition and missed the boot partition which means there's currently no boot loader to tell the computer where the Windows files are.


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    ftlnn
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭ftlnn


    Firstly Thanks,

    Well i have already tried those suggestions off the ms website. Had no effect.
    I used the dell direct backup utility and it,s very straight forward. Assuming I have a dud backup, how do we explain the failures of the xp and win 7 install attempts?

    I am using original Dell os cd,s.


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    Dey were Sooted
    Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭Dey were Sooted


    why did you feel you had to do the system restore in the first place ?

    have you tried vivard on ubcd to chk the drive ... if not, read a possibly related post here


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    ftlnn
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭ftlnn


    the owner of the PC had been scammed. If it was through the PC or not was questionable. Also the AVG software would not update, so it was a quick (ha, ha) way to diffuse those issues.

    I'll try your suggestions and revert. Is vivard on ubcd 411?


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    ftlnn
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭ftlnn


    Well I downloaded the ubcd52 and ran the vivard diagnostics and it reported no errors...


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    Antar Bolaeisk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Daft question but you're not using recovery discs from a different computer are you?


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    Freddy Smelly
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    missing bootmgr is easily fixed.


    1. does the computer have 2 hard drives? if yes boot into the bios and change the boot order of the hard drives... somehow the wrong hard drive got changed to be the boot drive. switching them back will fix this issue.

    2. if the second hard drive is a usb drive unplug the drive then boot the pc... if it works the usb drive is altering the boot order... to fix this boot into the bios and disable boot from usb device.

    3. if the boot.mgr file is missing you need your windows vista disc to repair the boot up files. if you do not have a vista disc download a vista iso file from microsoft and slow burn (4x speed max) to dvd and then use that.


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    ftlnn
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭ftlnn


    No question is too daft for this...

    No I am not using recovery discs from another PC.

    Freddy Smelly

    1. No

    2. NA

    3. tried this from a the recovery cd, no affect.

    On the issues that I mentioned about the xp and win 7 installs.
    The XP install still blue screened.
    Win 7, I am currently running an install from a different win 7 disc and it (so far) seems to be going fine. I googled the win7 install problem and other people were having the same issue where it wanted the cd/dvd drivers, using different install discs solved this for them.

    I'll keep all posted, thanks for assistance so far.


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    Freddy Smelly
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    xp install may have failed because the hard drive is set to ahci mode in the bios... xp setup program doesnt know how to use this mode.

    you could boot to bios and set your hard drives to IDE mode... the xp install would work then


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    ftlnn
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭ftlnn


    FS,

    Well that wasn't something I was aware of.

    SATA operations in the bios are:

    disabled
    ata
    ahci (enabled)

    Would ata or disabled have worked?

    The Windows 7 install completed without a hitch.

    As ever the boards community has been invaluable help.


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    Freddy Smelly
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    ftlnn wrote: »
    FS,

    Well that wasn't something I was aware of.

    SATA operations in the bios are:

    disabled
    ata
    ahci (enabled)

    Would ata or disabled have worked?

    The Windows 7 install completed without a hitch.

    As ever the boards community has been invaluable help.

    ata = ide mode

    ahci = sata mode

    win 7 setup works with ahci mode but xp setup was made long before sata drives were invented.


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