What is wrong with prostitution?

Lucy and Harry

All women are Nazis?Is that right?WEJ did a woman hurt your achey breaky heart ?

Madam_X

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

All women are Nazis?Is that right?WEJ did a woman hurt your achey breaky heart ?

He's a Jew-hater and woman-hater - keeps re-regging to spew craziness.

IM0

Madam_X wrote: »

Well there are people on this thread who occupy the middle ground - I think I do. I am aware some prostitutes do the work purely through choice and make a decent living/have a good life via it.
What's so unfair though is the way anyone who raises the point that it has a very dark side are shouted down as having an agenda when all they're doing is putting a spotlight on a reality (not an "opinion").

Why such hostility and defensiveness I wonder when the less than palatable elements are focused on? A nerve being hit p'haps?

because they are framing it in such a way so to imply its the majority, as has been proved this is not the case, despite what the propoganda machines would try to make you believe with false biast statistics and 'studies', there are just as much convincing evidence from INDEPENDANT bodies to support the against, unlike the heavily biast PR machine of rhuama and TORL.

plus the people in the thread keep playing the morals card, is it illegal to cheat while in a relationship? NO! should it be? NO!! adults live with consequences end of.

the people argueing in thread in strong opposition are also ones of a low intellect I would say, and extremely narrow minded too, it surprises me they havent resorted to prostitution too, oh no wait they have, they sell themselves to god, the magical pixie fair man.

also if you listen to the people with the same view points in media, again you can tell there were not at the table when the salmon of knowledge was going around

Lucy and Harry

wej47 wrote: »

What about the slaves in Asia and Africa who make our clothes? Where's the outrage for that? Surely that's worse than some women having sex FOR €200
AN HOUR.

It is but that is not this threads topic.I agree it is bad.Do you feel sorry for them and not your women you use>>?

wej47

Madam_X wrote: »

He's a Jew-hater and woman-hater - keeps re-regging to spew craziness.

I don't hate anyone. And your further allegations are unfounded.

wej47

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

It is but that is not this threads topic.I agree it is bad.Do you feel sorry for them and not your women you use>>?

I don't feel sorry for either one. There I said it. I'm not pretentious, so I don't go onto the internet to display my supreme morals (imagined) and look for others to feel superior to.

Lucy and Harry

wej47 wrote: »

I don't hate anyone. And your further allegations are unfounded.

Calling all women Nazis is hatefull.You know the Nazis were evil right or am I being over moral again?Is Hitler bad or good let us check your answer to see if you actually have morality.The ability to feel pitty for a women on drugs having sex and a man having trafficked her over.Would you feel pity or just ride her as you have no morals ?

Rjd2

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

Calling all women Nazis is hatefull.You know the Nazis were evil right or am I being over moral again?Is Hitler bad or good let us check your answer to see if you actually have morality.The ability to feel pitty for a women on drugs having sex and a man having trafficked her over.Would you feel pity or just ride her as you have no morals ?

how do you know the women he seen was on drugs and trafficked?

Lucy and Harry

wej47 wrote: »

I don't feel sorry for either one. There I said it. I'm not pretentious, so I don't go onto the internet to display my supreme morals (imagined) and look for others to feel superior to.

Do you feel sorry for kids being raped by pedos?

lahalane

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

The ability to feel pitty for a women on drugs having sex and a man having trafficked her over.

This seems to be your overall definition of a prostitute. It's like saying the definition of a footballer is 'a racist, cheating scumbag who kicks a ball for a living'. It's ignorant.

wej47

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

.The ability to feel pitty for a women on drugs having sex and a man having trafficked her over.Would you feel pity or just ride her as you have no morals ?

I am perfectly moral in that I do not break the law.

However I do not feel pity for the girls and I take pleasure in the said scenario. It's not my responsibility to do otherwise.

Lucy and Harry

lahalane wrote: »

This seems to be your overall definition of a prostitute. .

Are you saying there is no such thing as trafficking prostitutes even though ALL government agencys in Europe agree it is a issue???Do you know what happens in the real world??Do you know some women have sex to feed their addiction??Do you deny this happens??WEG does not pitty these slaves of sex he gets off in his own words when they are not in to it and makes them pee for him>>???

lahalane

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

Do you feel sorry for kids being raped by pedos?

Would you feel pity for a drug using car washer who is working to get money to feed their habit? Would you feel guilty using their service? :eek:

Lucy and Harry

wej47 wrote: »

I am perfectly moral in that I do not break the law.

However I do not feel pity for the girls and I take pleasure in the said scenario. It's not my responsibility to do otherwise.

It is your responcibility as you are a citizen of this country and are breaking the law.

wej47

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

It is your responcibility as you are a citizen of this country and are breaking the law.

What law? How am I meant to objectively judge whether they're trafficked or not.?

lahalane

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

Are you saying there is no such thing as trafficking prostitutes even though ALL government agencys in Europe agree it is a issue???Do you know what happens in the real world??Do you know some women have sex to feed their addiction??Do you deny this happens??WEG does not pitty these slaves of sex he gets off in his own words when they are not in to it and makes them pee for him>>???

I'm aware that trafficking prostitutes is illegal but I'm also aware that there are prostitutes working legally who earn money and are damn happy to. What I'm saying is, I don't see any problem with that. I'm curious to know what your problem with it is?

I'm aware some McDonalds workers flip burgers to feed their addiction too, what's your point?

IM0

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

It is your responcibility as you are a citizen of this country and are breaking the law.

you need to familarise yourself with the law darling

- soliciting in a public place? illegal in other words, street prostitutes!

-having sex with a trafficked person? illegal

-trafficking a person? illegal

they are the only things illegal to the clients

Daveysil15

Not all people who sell sex are junkies. Not all people who pay for it are the same as wej. The reality is a lot more complex.

ashers22

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Not all people who sell sex are junkies. Not all people who pay for it are the same as wej. The reality is a lot more complex.

but thanks to wej and his compadres I'll forever think that they are

(dehumanising, abusive, sexist, patronising psychopathic men who otherwise can't get laid)

lahalane

ashers22 wrote: »

but thanks to wej and his compadres I'll forever think that they are

Shows a lot about your intelligence so.

If some are, they all are.

Great motto.

ashers22

lahalane wrote: »

Shows a lot about your intelligence so.

If some are, they all are.

Great motto.

thanks fer lerning me about men

IM0

ashers22 wrote: »

thanks fer lerning me about men

men are scum didnt you get the memo

lahalane

ashers22 wrote: »

thanks fer lerning me about men

I only wish I could have taught you something

Yamanoto

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&ved=0CHMQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thejournal.ie%2Fprostitutes-trafficking-immigrant-council-ireland-790813-Feb2013%2F&ei=LfQnUejrBIyYhQeisYGQBQ&usg=AFQjCNGYb0cFfBBoOUe5YJkilzS8Vy785A&bvm=bv.42768644,d.ZG4 Let us read facts about these foreign women shall we sir.


One in four sex buyers have met trafficked, controlled or underage females – survey

The news comes as part of an online survey that was conducted by the Immigrant Council of Ireland.




A QUARTER OF sex buyers in Ireland have come in contact with women and girls who they believe were trafficked, controlled or underage.
The news comes as the result of a survey on prostitution that was undertaken by the Immigrant Council of Ireland, in which they found that the greatest fear that sex buyers have is that they will contract a disease.

Of the 411 responses, 58 (or 14 per cent) said that they had previously paid for sex. All but one of the 58 were male.

Firstly, the Immigrant Council of Ireland can by no measure be considered an objective party to the debate. As active proponents of the TORL campaign and advocates for the adoption of the 'Swedish model', there's quite clearly an agenda at play. The 'Turn Off the Red Light' radio campaign supported by Ruhama, ICTU Women, Immigrant Council of Ireland etc. was incredibly disingenuous in claiming ALL prostitution in Ireland was as a consequence of sex-trafficking. That pretty much renders anything the ICI have to say as suspect imo.

As for their online survey of 57 men and 1 woman, if you wish to claim such a stunt possesses the required sampling or methodology to be of any objective value whatsoever, then go right on ahead.

ashers22

IM0 wrote: »

men are scum didnt you get the memo

yeah, you've been an education in the lesson

ashers22

lahalane wrote: »

I only wish I could have taught you something

trust me you did

The Th!ng

For anyone who may be interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtaEdI3aiwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YkV29ssxgM

http://www.lauraagustin.com/

lahalane

ashers22 wrote: »

trust me you did

That's what worries me...I may have contributed to your ignorance and I apologise for that. It was not my intention.

Rjd2

Daveysil15 wrote: »

Not all people who sell sex are junkies. Not all people who pay for it are the same as wej. The reality is a lot more complex.

This a million times this.

Listened to a radio show a few weeks ago,basically they had a girl on it who had worked as an escort for a year.She basically used it to fund her studies and set her up for life.She admitted their was some negative sides, stigma of working as a prostitute, been away from your family but their was other sides that made it worthwhile, the happiness she brought to people for a brief amount of time and the money. She was not trafficked, drug addict or any melodramatic cliches that some people use.

Their is of course girls who are forced into this, but its unfair to ignore those who have chosen this profession no matter what you think of their morals.

IM0

ashers22 wrote: »

yeah, you've been an education in the lesson

right lets stop flirting and I come round and shag you ok

lahalane

IM0 wrote: »

right lets stop flirting and I come round and shag you ok

I'd get a receipt just in case...

ashers22

IM0 wrote: »

right lets stop flirting and I come round and shag you ok

see, I've reported three of your posts for being overly sexually suggestive and offensive and not one moderator has done a thing about it. You get to be sexually aggressive with me, patronising and throw around personal insults while promoting prostitution as a favourable work option for women. There's really little respect left for men in me anyway and it wouldn't take much to just let it run out completely. I'm an unintelligent, feminazi who should be shagged or thrown in a convent because I don't agree with you. Yep, typical man. I genuinely do feel sorry for those women.

lahalane

ashers22 wrote: »

see, I've reported three of your posts for being overly sexually suggestive and offensive and not one moderator has done a thing about it. You get to be sexually aggressive with me, patronising and throw around personal insults while promoting prostitution as a favourable work option for women. There's really little respect left for men in me anyway and it wouldn't take much to just let it run out completely. I'm an unintelligent, feminazi who should be shagged or thrown in a convent because I don't agree with you. Yep, typical man. I genuinely do feel sorry for those women.

You can't hate all men just because some of them upset you. It's things like this that make you not understand my point of view on this whole subject. I feel sorry for you if I'm honest

ashers22

lahalane wrote: »

You can't hate all men just because some of them upset you. It's things like this that make you not understand my point of view on this whole subject. I feel sorry for you if I'm honest

actually, I can. Now I'm going to watch Jenna marbles feed her dog peanut butter on youtube.

The Th!ng

Plenty of interesting reading here on the whole issue from the perspective of the prostitutes themselves.

http://prostitutescollective.net/

lahalane

ashers22 wrote: »

actually, I can. Now I'm going to watch Jenna marbles feed her dog peanut butter on youtube.

Ok, I correct myself. You can. By doing so, your already defunct argument becomes even less relevant. Congratulations.

wej47

ashers22 wrote: »

actually, I can. Now I'm going to watch mind-numbing kikery on jewtube.

FYP.

ashers22

wej47 wrote: »

FYP.

still more entertaining than you.

wej47

ashers22 wrote: »

still more entertaining than you.

Then why'd you come back to check on this reply? You may think you hate men, but really you just love finding an excuse to hate men so you can blame your unhappiness on them, in other words you're a feminist.

ashers22

wej47 wrote: »

Then why'd you come back to check on this reply? You may think you hate men, but really you just love finding an excuse to hate men so you can blame your unhappiness on them, in other words you're a feminist.

oh right ye, I forgot the hater bit. Let me fix that for you.

Yamanoto

ashers22 wrote: »

see, I've reported three of your posts for being overly sexually suggestive and offensive and not one moderator has done a thing about it. You get to be sexually aggressive with me, patronising and throw around personal insults while promoting prostitution as a favourable work option for women. There's really little respect left for men in me anyway and it wouldn't take much to just let it run out completely. I'm an unintelligent, feminazi who should be shagged or thrown in a convent because I don't agree with you. Yep, typical man. I genuinely do feel sorry for those women.

For someone quick to cry foul at instances of perceived misogyny, you're producing a touch of the unpalatable right there yourself.

I don't discount that you're opinion of men may have been coloured by personal experience of some sorry assemblage of blaggards and n'er do wells, but see there's really no such thing as a 'typical man', typical woman or indeed, typical prostitute. Thankfully the world's an infinitely more complex and interesting place than that.

IM0

ashers22 wrote: »

see, I've reported three of your posts for being overly sexually suggestive and offensive and not one moderator has done a thing about it. You get to be sexually aggressive with me, patronising and throw around personal insults while promoting prostitution as a favourable work option for women. There's really little respect left for men in me anyway and it wouldn't take much to just let it run out completely. I'm an unintelligent, feminazi who should be shagged or thrown in a convent because I don't agree with you. Yep, typical man. I genuinely do feel sorry for those women.

I didnt think working in a convent was an insult and I certainly wasnt personal about it

and sexually agressive with you? your having a laugh! it appears you missed the humour memo, jes that bad, thats at least 2 youve missed now, the men are sum one and the understanding of humour one

ashers22

Yamanoto wrote: »

For someone quick to cry foul at instances of perceived misogyny, you're producing a touch of the unpalatable right there yourself.

I don't discount that you're opinion of men may have been coloured by personal experience of some sorry assemblage of blaggards and n'er do wells, but see there's really no such thing as a 'typical man', typical woman or indeed, typical prostitute. Thankfully the world's an infinitely more complex and interesting place than that.

There are three of you here spouting the same rhetoric, coloured with every typical misogynistic attribute you could fit on me to justify it. well done, you argued your point well and you've made it astoundingly clear exactly how you feel about women and consequently why prostitution is not an issue for you. My misandry is fitting in this instance.

Big Bottom

IM0 wrote: »

your drunk go home, at least get it right who you credit or abhore with things

You were quite offensive to her earlier, you should be ashamed of yourself.

IM0

The Th!ng wrote: »

For anyone who may be interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtaEdI3aiwg

oh and there was the exact same thing with massive nationwide raids here last year I think it was, that found exactly the same thing, over exagerated figures. something like 150 raids on premises, and 0 evidence of trafficking found!

Super-Rush

Wej47 banned.

Yamanoto

ashers22 wrote: »

There are three of you here spouting the same rhetoric, coloured with every typical misogynistic attribute you could fit on me to justify it. well done, you argued your point well and you've made it astoundingly clear exactly how you feel about women and consequently why prostitution is not an issue for you. My misandry is fitting in this instance.

Either you're confusing me with another poster or you're simply reacting to being quoted in a surprisingly peevish and petulant manner.

If you'd find me a single instance on thread where I have laid down anything that could be reasonably construed as misogynistic, that'd be swell.

Also, attempting to establish some sordid correlation between my views on what consenting adults engage in of their own free will and 'how I feel about women' merely serves to highlight the dearth of a reasoned or indeed reasonable argument on your part.

If you wish to discuss the topic at hand we can certainly do that, but an overly-aggravated tone and wholly inaccurate accusations ain't conducive to anything but a cyber-squabble and I'll decline that thanks.

ashers22

Yamanoto wrote: »

Either you're confusing me with another poster or you're simply reacting to being quoted in a surprisingly peevish and petulant manner.

If you'd find me a single instance on thread where I have laid down anything that could be reasonably construed as misogynistic, that'd be swell.

Also, attempting to establish some sordid correlation between my views on what consenting adults engage in of their own free will and 'how I feel about women' merely serves to highlight the dearth of a reasoned or indeed reasonable argument on your part.

If you wish to discuss the topic at hand we can certainly do that, but an overly-aggravated tone and wholly inaccurate accusations ain't conducive to anything but a cyber-squabble and I'll decline that thanks.

your post came in on the back of the three previous posters, whom I was referring to. Thanks for the invite but I sincerely feel I've learned enough from them already.

Ruudi_Mentari

See these teenage boys and girls looking to relatively innocently liase in the laneways each night, if a cash exchange wasn't frowned upon it could well deteriorate like that n I won't let my neighborhood slide like that.

Prostitution is not a career option particularly in these difficult and prone times

CollardGreens

Prostitution is not a career option particularly in these difficult and prone times

Are they taxing that too now?