Social Smokers

MaxSteele

What's you opinion on "social smokers" ? I.e "I only smoke when I drink".

Seems kind of pathetic to me being brutally honest. Smoking just for the sake of it or thinking you can't be within the smoking area of a pub or club without a ciggie in your hand.

I spend half of my night's out wandering in and out of the smoking area and I've never thought "jaysus, I'll look like a right tool with just a drink in my hand".

Everyone's well aware of it's dangers and addiction rate, so why do it when you have no addiction or urge for it ?

Seachmall

Because drunk people aren't known for making rational decisions.

Having the odd one isn't a big deal if someone can keep it like that. Same as most things. I used to smoke so I doubt I could just have the odd one and I'm just jealous of people who can.

genericguy

MaxSteele wrote: »

What's you opinion on "social smokers" ? I.e "I only smoke when I drink".

Seems kind of pathetic to me being brutally honest. Smoking just for the sake of it or thinking you can't be within the smoking area of a pub or club without a ciggie in your hand.

I spend half of my night's out wandering in and out of the smoking area and I've never thought "jaysus, I'll look like a right tool with just a drink in my hand".

Everyone's well aware of it's dangers and addiction rate, so why do it when you have no addiction or urge for it ?

I hate obese people who eat even though they don't need to.

OneArt

MaxSteele wrote: »

Everyone's well aware of it's dangers and addiction rate, so why do it when you have no addiction or urge for it ?

Why drink if you're not an alcoholic and have no addiction or urge for it?

MaxSteele

OneArt wrote: »

Why drink if you're not an alcoholic and have no addiction or urge for it?

Just because it gets you drunk, doesn't mean you drink it for the sole purpose of getting in a state. Same could be said about coca cola. Why drink it if it's not good for you ?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

MaxSteele wrote: »

Just because it gets you drunk, doesn't mean you drink it for the sole purpose of getting in a state. Same could be said about coca cola. Why drink it if it's not good for you ?

because it contains sugar and caffeine, two very addictive substances?

orestes

No problem with them once they buy their own fecking smokes.

Big Nasty

Would ya go an sh1te OP.

If people want to smoke, be it one a year or like a train, it's their own damn business.

MaxSteele

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

because it contains sugar and caffeine, two very addictive substances?

Do you really think many people are addicted to drinking coke ? or just for the taste ?

Who smokes for anything but addiction ?

indough

MaxSteele wrote: »

Who smokes for anything but addiction ?

social smokers

IM0

why does anyone do anything!

Snowie

What's it to you? I'd there not harming you why worry?

MaxSteele

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Would ya go an sh1te OP.

If people want to smoke, be it one a year or like a train, it's their own damn business.

Had one earlier thanks. It was solid, but not too solid. Nice and uncongested.

It was a valid question. Why only when drinking ? Makes no sense.

Lisha

I would love to be a social smoker.

But one puff and I would be back to 20odd a day.

I'm jealous of those who can just be social smokers

Snowie

Lisha wrote: »

I would love to be a social smoker.

But one puff and I would be back to 20odd a day.

I'm jealous of those who can just be social smokers

Me to but then I started vaping best o booth worlds

MaxSteele

Snowie wrote: »

What's it to you? I'd there not harming you why worry?

I'm just curious. Why do most "social smokers" only do it when out drinking ?

Snowie

MaxSteele wrote: »

I'm just curious. Why do most "social smokers" only do it when out drinking ?

Because its a soical every ones willing to chat talk etc when your a smoker because your out side... Also nice way of chattin up girls too

harry Bailey esq

orestes wrote: »

No problem with them once they buy their own fecking smokes.

+1 on that. social smoker translates as someone who smokes other peoples gaspers. quite an antisocial thing to be doing really

Nate--IRL--

MaxSteele wrote: »

I'm just curious. Why do most "social smokers" only do it when out drinking ?

Because it is enjoyable to have a smoke with a few pints.

Nate

Lisha

MaxSteele wrote: »

I'm just curious. Why do most "social smokers" only do it when out drinking ?

It's just lovely that's why.

Single people's tell me the smoking area is where it's at for flirting and stuff

IM0

MaxSteele wrote: »

I'm just curious. Why do most "social smokers" only do it when out drinking ?

heres a wild guess, could be waaaaaaaaay off the mark, but probably because they enjoy it

frag420

I'm addicted to smoking......socially......when drinking!!

MaxSteele

Snowie wrote: »

Because its a soical every ones willing to chat talk etc when your a smoker because your out side... Also nice way of chattin up girls too

But that's the drink talking

Lisha

MaxSteele wrote: »

But that's the drink talking

'Drink in -truth out'

MaxSteele

IM0 wrote: »

heres a wild guess, could be waaaaaaaaay off the mark, but probably because they enjoy it

The majority of my mates who smoke have all tried numerous times to give up or stay off. Not one of them enjoys it.

Most smokers start young cos they think it's cool. Which is natural in itself. That's how all the people I know, including the aul fella started off.

I don't for a second believe even 10% of the people I see smoking whether addicted or socially enjoy it.

Toxic7

I only enjoy smoking when i've consumed alcohol.Its not that much of a social thing to me.

eviltwin

As a ex smoker the smokes I miss most are the ones I had when I was drinking. Its one of the reasons I don't drink as much, if I do I'll go to the nearest shop and buy myself a packet.

Snowie

MaxSteele wrote: »

But that's the drink talking

No not really I'm a good drunk... Charming in a rouge and some cheeky manor... :cool:

Lisha

eviltwin wrote: »

As a ex smoker the smokes I miss most are the ones I had when I was drinking. Its one of the reasons I don't drink as much, if I do I'll go to the nearest shop and buy myself a packet.

Agreed , and I don't drink really as I'd eat too much crisps now while drinking.

orestes

MaxSteele wrote: »

The majority of my mates who smoke have all tried numerous times to give up or stay off. Not one of them enjoys it.

Most smokers start young cos they think it's cool. Which is natural in itself. That's how all the people I know, including the aul fella started off.

I don't for a second believe even 10% of the people I see smoking whether addicted or socially enjoy it.

Smokers who want to quit but can't aren't social smokers, they're addicted.

Basing wide-sweeping opinions on people you know and what you believe aren't really a good starting point since you're probably just going to disregard whatever doesn't fit in with how you already see things. People have already given a few good reasons that people smoke while they drink, but you're dismissing them because you just don't believe them.

Not everyone who smokes wants to quit, some people actually enjoy smoking, I know I sure as hell do.

IM0

MaxSteele wrote: »

The majority of my mates who smoke have all tried numerous times to give up or stay off. Not one of them enjoys it.

Most smokers start young cos they think it's cool. Which is natural in itself. That's how all the people I know, including the aul fella started off.

I don't for a second believe even 10% of the people I see smoking whether addicted or socially enjoy it.

which leads you to conclude they do it cause?

Lawrence1895

Someone, who calls himself 'social smoker' is looking for an excuse, imo

ian87

When I used to smoke and was asked by (90% of the time young women) for a fag, I'd ask had they 7 quid in their pockets. They would always say "yes, why?" and id tell them go inside, there was a machine there that would give you a whole pack... Now fack off you leech.

MaxSteele

orestes wrote: »

Smokers who want to quit but can't aren't social smokers, they're addicted.

Basing wide-sweeping opinions on people you know and what you believe aren't really a good starting point since you're probably just going to disregard whatever doesn't fit in with how you already see things. People have already given a few good reasons that people smoke while they drink, but you're dismissing them because you just don't believe them.

Not everyone who smokes wants to quit, some people actually enjoy smoking, I know I sure as hell do.

But that's the thing. I've asked loads of people when out ....

" since when do you smoke ?"
"only when I drink"
"How come ?"
"Dunno just do"

Or something vague like that. None of them have actually said they enjoyed it. And the vast majority of those I know who are addicted lament the day they ever started. Hence why I came here and posted this thread.

If some of you actually enjoy it, well then fine. (Inhaling toxic smoke for enjoyment boggles my mind but whatever). I just didn't believe social smokers did it for enjoyment.

Pawwed Rig

I am an ex smoker and have to say that I loved to smoke. There was the addiction element of course but a cigarette with a pint just felt as natural as vinegar on my chips. It just enhanced the experience somehow. The same is true of the first cigarette in the morning or the cuppa with a cigarette after dinner.
The one thing I miss most is when things are getting stressed I can no longer pop out for a smoke. Popping out and just standing in front of the building for 10 minutes seems pointless (to me anyway:D).

I tried the social smoker part but when they removed the pack of 10's from sale I hated buying 20 as that would mean smoking the next day too.

nlgbbbblth

I quit smoking in 2000. When I smoked I enjoyed every cigarette. Couldn't stand whining smokers who constantly complained about their habit. If you're gonna smoke you should defend it. Otherwise there's no point.

Boombastic

Once they buy their own and don't scab all night because 'there'd be no point in them buying a pack because they only smoke when having a few drinks' :rolleyes:

Don't see the issue. Smoking can be enjoyable - why shouldn't some people be allowed to do it just because they happen to be able to partake without becoming addicted? I hate 'real' smokers giving out about social smokers because the 'real' smokers have such a victim complex about it. 'Sure, I only smoke because I'm addicted, it's not my fault, I don't choose to smoke, wah wah wah'. Grow the fck up. Would you like to be accosted in the pub by an alcoholic giving out that you're pathetic because you can go out for a couple of drinks for the craic just and they can't? What's the difference?

MaxSteele

Andrea Shapely Trigger wrote: »

Don't see the issue. Smoking can be enjoyable - why shouldn't some people be allowed to do it just because they happen to be able to partake without becoming addicted? I hate 'real' smokers giving out about social smokers because the 'real' smokers have such a victim complex about it. 'Sure, I only smoke because I'm addicted, it's not my fault, I don't choose to smoke, wah wah wah'. Grow the fck up. Would you like to be accosted in the pub by an alcoholic giving out that you're pathetic because you can go out for a couple of drinks for the craic just and they can't? What's the difference?

Difference is a social drinker like myself doesn't need to be in a pub to drink alcohol. I'll have a drink wherever. Do you reckon those who just drink with a pint would do it at home or during a work break ?

I wouldn't think so myself.

MaxSteele

MaxSteele wrote: »

Difference is a social drinker like myself doesn't need to be in a pub to drink alcohol. I'll have a drink wherever. Do you reckon those who just drink with a pint would do it at home or during a work break ?

I wouldn't think so myself.

A lot of people would only really drink in the pub. Who drinks pints during a work break? More to the point, what's it to you? How does this affect you in any way?

MaxSteele

Andrea Shapely Trigger wrote: »

A lot of people would only really drink in the pub. Who drinks pints during a work break? More to the point, what's it to you? How does this affect you in any way?

It doesn't. I'm just asking. Calm down.

mitosis

You are either a smoker or not. There is no in-between. If you smoke, even one a week, you are a smoker.

"Self-delusional smokers" would be a more appropriate title.

MaxSteele

MaxSteele wrote: »

It doesn't. I'm just asking. Calm down.

I am calm. Just don't get how you can label someone pathetic for indulging in something that's bad for them, in a place where everyone is drinking alcohol. Or how a social smoker is pathetic whereas a regular smoker isn't.

Big Nasty

MaxSteele wrote: »

The majority of my mates who smoke have all tried numerous times to give up or stay off. Not one of them enjoys it.

Bollix to that too. Anyone I know that smokes loves there smoke. They hate the fact that they ever started of course but IMO anyone that smoke enjoys it, myself included.

padd b1975

Snowie wrote: »

Because its a soical every ones willing to chat talk etc when your a smoker because your out side... Also nice way of chattin up girls too

I love smoking areas.

They are great for keeping all the women with bad breath in the one place.

JJayoo

MaxSteele wrote: »

I spend half of my night's out wandering in and out of the smoking area and I've never thought "jaysus, I'll look like a right tool with just a drink in my hand".

That sounds really sad, wandering around on your own with no friends. Good thing you have boards to keep you company.

Supermensch

How do you regard people who smoke cigars, or pipes, OP? In general, neither could be considered 'social' smoking, but they are examples of smoking for enjoyment (that, or projecting an image, at least).

MaxSteele

Andrea Shapely Trigger wrote: »

I am calm. Just don't get how you can label someone pathetic for indulging in something that's bad for them, in a place where everyone is drinking alcohol. Or how a social smoker is pathetic whereas a regular smoker isn't.

Regular smokers have an addiction. Social smokers only do it when drinking. I don't get why they don't do it normally bar a friday or saturday night if they enjoy it so much. ?

P_1

You see that's an attitude I can't stand. Why do some people insist on judging other people for what they do. It's none of your business so kindly butt out

sesswhat

Brace yourself OP.

Drink can actually change behavior.