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fman

Not what I meant. I meant in terms of the UEFA rights. When they last came up BT were in bed with eir and virgin/ TV3 were just a couple of channels.
There wouldn't have been any push to sell rights for UK and Ireland separately, but maybe there would be now?
Similar to the way Amazon's premier League games were sold to premier here.

icdg

It’s a bit more nuanced than that - the rights for UK and Ireland are sold separately, but the UK rights also included non-exclusive rights to broadcast the games in Ireland.

So in the current period:

BT have exclusive rights to show every game in the UK and non-exclusive rights to show every game in Ireland.
Virgin Media have non-exclusive rights to show every game in Ireland.
RTE have non exclusive rights to show one Tuesday 8:00pm game in Ireland.

It’s a slight bit messy but ensures no one gets blacked out (as was the case during the period ESPN had Europa League rights when games were blocked out in Ireland).

Harry Palmr

Does RTE keep one game a week is all I need to know - I like to watch football for free in HD.

icdg

Now official:

[url] https://sport.bt.com/football/bt-wins-exclusive-rights-to-uefa-champions-league-uefa-europa-league-and-uefa-europa-conference-league-until-2024-S11364410970173[/url]

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Does RTE keep one game a week is all I need to know - I like to watch football for free in HD.

We probably won’t know for another 18 months on that one. UEFA haven’t even issued the RFT for Ireland yet.

Badabing

icdg wrote:

We probably won’t know for another 18 months on that one. UEFA haven’t even issued the RFT for Ireland yet.

Is that usual? Did it happen the last time? Much smaller market obviously

icdg

Yeah, it takes them ages to do. The UK is normally one of the first deals to be done and we are normally one of the last.

For 2018-21, the UK rights were announced on 6th March 2017, the Irish rights on 15th May 2018.

dublinman1990

BT Sport are also showing games from the new UEFA Europa Conference League as well with them retaining the CL & EL.

https://newsroom.bt.com/bt-wins-exclusive-rights-to-uefa-champions-league-uefa-europa-league-and-uefa-europa-conference-league-until-2024/

That gives BT Sport an increase of 77 matches on their previous rights package.

I do wonder where the new Europa Conference League matches will go here if they are included in the new Irish rights deal.

From a realistic perspective from an Irish rights point of view; Will Virgin/Eir or RTÉ show those games here?

extra gravy

dublinman1990 wrote: »

BT Sport are also showing games from the new UEFA Europa Conference League as well with them retaining the CL & EL.

https://newsroom.bt.com/bt-wins-exclusive-rights-to-uefa-champions-league-uefa-europa-league-and-uefa-europa-conference-league-until-2024/

That gives BT Sport an increase of 77 matches on their previous rights package.

I do wonder where the new Europa Conference League matches will go here if they are included in the new Irish rights deal.

From a realistic perspective from an Irish rights point of view; Will Virgin/Eir or RTÉ show those games here?

Will they want to? Can't see too much interest in a third tier European competition . The Europa League is bad enough until the knockout stages.

dulpit

extra gravy wrote: »

Will they want to? Can't see too much interest in a third tier European competition . The Europa League is bad enough until the knockout stages.

Much greater chance of Irish teams making that competition though, so probably would have good interest here...

dulpit

dulpit wrote: »

Much greater chance of Irish teams making that competition though, so probably would have good interest here...

Also, might be the only way to watch Manchester United in European competition... :pac:

mackersdublin

Premier Sports have updated their Premier League schedule for Dec & Jan with every game being broadcast on the 3rd/4th/6th and 26th/27th/28th Dec

https://www.premiersports.com/premierleague.html

Presumably the extra games on the dates above will only be available for Sky customers through the red button

icdg

“Front channel” games in Round 15:

Tuesday 3rd Dec
Premier 1: Burnley v Man City
Premier 2: Crystal Palace v Bournemouth

Wednesday 4th Dec
Premier 1: Liverpool v Everton
Premier 2: Spurs v Man United

Thursday 5th December
Premier 1: Arsenal v Brighton
Premier 2: Sheffield United v Newcastle

Infoanon

mackersdublin wrote: »

Presumably the extra games on the dates above will only be available for Sky customers through the red button

I don't think Premier have the spare carriage capacity unless a deal is done with Sky to lease spare capacity for those games.

icdg

Amazon will be putting these games on Sky for commercial premises - there could be some sort of deal to share streams in the circumstances.

icdg

Premier Sports website now updated to make clear the other games (Leicester v Watford, Wolves v West Ham, Chelsea v Aston Villa, Southampton v Norwich) will be available to satellite customers via red button.

Similar scenario on St Stephens Day - Chelsea v Southampton on Premier 1 and all other 3pms on red button - games outside of 3pm window all on Premier 1.

dublinman1990

BT Sport launched BT Sport Ultimate on Sky & Virgin Media in the UK & through more smart devices yesterday.

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/11/bt-sport-ultimate-extended-to-sky-and.html

https://sport.bt.com/news/watch-bt-sport-ultimate-on-more-devices-than-ever-before-S11364412400952

TCP/IP

Here was me getting excited that we were going to get BT Sport 4K on SkyQ.

Father Hernandez

https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/status/1200392788044603397?s=20

Acosta

Father Hernandez wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/status/1200392788044603397?s=20

It was all going so well before the Ivan Yates reveal.

icdg

Eoin McDevitt and the usual Premier crew will be doing one of the games each night if you prefer.

Yates & Co have the eir Sport studio tonight incidentally, which I think is the first time it’s made an appearance on Premier Sports since the split.

Red Silurian

icdg wrote: »

To be clear, what applies is the Portability Regulation and that only allows a person resident in one member state to take their content abroad with them for short periods - like a holiday or business trip. It does not create a general rule abolishing geoblocking within the EU entirely. For example Sky require you to have logged on in your home state after 30 days or the geoblocking comes back up.

This is an entirely separate issue from Amazon’s notoriously leaky geoblocking. That’s their own thing and if their content providers are comfortable with it.

I can confirm that they are not geoblocked, long live the Digital Single Market hurrah!

muffler

colmtheperson wrote: »

I can confirm that they are not geoblocked, long live the Digital Single Market hurrah!

Couldn't watch either match tonight on the TV with the firestick. I could view them on the desktop PC but couldnt be bothered watching that.

icdg

It’s not that they are not geoblocked - it’s just that Amazon’s geoblocking is based on a method other than IP address, and without wishing to break our own rule here on discussing circumventing geoblocking, is apparently very easily circumvented thanks to how nice Amazon customer support are about it. That’s their own policy, and if it becomes a problem for other PL right holders - like Premier Sports for instance (seeing how this is the Premier sports thread and all) - you will be sure the FAPL will put pressure on them to tighten things up.

Geoblocking of online content isn’t illegal. With few exceptions, the vast majority traditional broadcasters streaming over the net, and commercial legal streaming service uses it in some way shape or form including the BBC, ITV, RTE, Sky, Netflix, Amazon etc.

Red Silurian

icdg wrote: »

It’s not that they are not geoblocked - it’s just that Amazon’s geoblocking is based on a method other than IP address, and without wishing to break our own rule here on discussing circumventing geoblocking, is apparently very easily circumvented thanks to how nice Amazon customer support are about it. That’s their own policy, and if it becomes a problem for other PL right holders - like Premier Sports for instance (seeing how this is the Premier sports thread and all) - you will be sure the FAPL will put pressure on them to tighten things up.

Geoblocking of online content isn’t illegal. With few exceptions, the vast majority traditional broadcasters streaming over the net, and commercial legal streaming service uses it in some way shape or form including the BBC, ITV, RTE, Sky, Netflix, Amazon etc.

From my own point of view there was no circumventing of geoblocking... I have a family member home from the UK who has the relevant subscription that applies over there

All that I am confirming is that the DSM rules apply, and correctly apply, to the Amazon prime service! These rules are common to bt/Eir/premier/sky so I see no reason for the pl to come down on Amazon when the others are doing the exact same

On a related note, I can also confirm that an Irish prime account cannot access the matches, even when the user is in the UK

GiftofGab

I have Sky Sports Only. Not Sky Sports Extra. Can I watch the games tonight or access premier sports via the red button on Sky??? Surely that's not correct.

Red Silurian

GiftofGab wrote: »

I have Sky Sports Only. Not Sky Sports Extra. Can I watch the games tonight or access premier sports via the red button on Sky??? Surely that's not correct.

You mean will premier make the games FTA via red button? Unlikely I'd say

lertsnim

GiftofGab wrote: »

I have Sky Sports Only. Not Sky Sports Extra. Can I watch the games tonight or access premier sports via the red button on Sky??? Surely that's not correct.

You will have to have Sky Sports Extra to access the games on a sky box.

Green_Martian

Anyone got a number for Eirsport that I can actually get through to so I can cancel my auto renewal for Jan???

muffler

Green_Martian wrote: »

Anyone got a number for Eirsport that I can actually get through to so I can cancel my auto renewal for Jan???

0818 203040

Acosta

5 minutes into the 3pm games and no sign of the red button....