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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,362 ✭✭✭Acosta


    Yeah, BTs Serie A coverage since they got it back last season has been top notch. They show every game possible.

    It never made much sense for Sky to acquire Bundesliga rights as most of the televised matches clash with their Premier League coverage.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,829 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Serie A is also very popular, from back when it was on channel 4 I think?



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    I think maybe it was more popular back then than it is now, and I think the aftermath of Italia 90 may have had a lot to do with that. As you say it was being aired terrestrially by Channel 4 and even RTE2 had at one point a Monday night hour long highlights show. That has all faded, LaLiga really overtook it and was quite big in the 2000s and most of the 2010s but it has never really recovered from that season on Eleven Sports when it literally dropped off the radar completely for twelve months.



  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭timothydec77


    Eleven Sports was a very affordable product for those of us priced out of the traditional Sky Sports model.

    It was €69 for the whole year. Before the advent of Now TV to watch Sky Sports required a Basic package which would require that amount alone per month.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Eleven was a disaster. It wasn’t even compatible with chromecast on launch

    La Liga simply overestimated how popular it was in the UK. People watched it on sky because they already subscribed. While eleven may have offered value to dedicated fans, the vast majority of sports fans are passive watchers of most events

    Thats why Italian football was popular in the early 1990s. It was available to everybody. Since going off channel 4 it’s been all over the digital map with even the old Bravo channel showing games at one stage



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It had a lot to do with being the lead out of Super Sunday too, in the days of the old numbered Sky Sports channels. Sky Sports 1 would join a La Liga game usually already in progress after the wrap of Super Sunday and show another one after. A good chunk of that huge audience for the 4pm fixture (particularly those watching in pubs where the staff just didn’t bother to change the channel after) continued to watch because, well, more football!

    That was exposure they could only get on Sky. Now the lead out on Main Event is either NFL or golf depending on the time of year, and they are getting that exposure now. To maybe try and get this thread back on topic, I think Premier is a much better place for them to be than Eleven, but they have lost the bonus they got with Sky. The ITV deal is maybe an attempt to try and recapture some of that exposure.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,724 ✭✭✭shmeee


    The first paragraph couldn't be any more truer. If I was in a pub on a Sunday or at home, Sky Sports 1 was left on by default and you'd have look at the Spanish games for the rest of the night in the background. Exposure to a massive audience by sheer placement on the product to an audience already interested in football. Anyway, as you say off topic but you just said something so true at the time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    "I think you’d be hard pushed to find a FTA station that would invest in Bundesliga rights tbh."

    VMTV put a bid in on recent rights I'm reliably informed. ok maybe it was for VM More which is not FTA - I honestly don't know about that.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    If they did, it was hardly for VM More given the exclusive Irish rights to the Bundesliga were awarded in 2021 to Sky for a four year period.

    https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/article/sky-sports-announces-exclusive-bundesliga-rights-for-uk-ireland-in-four-season-deal



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    To get back on topic, here’s a piece about the Viaplay takeover of Premier. Not much new I’m afraid, and still zero info about what’s happening in Ireland.

    https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broadcasting/premier-sports-ceo-viaplay-takeover-could-take-us-to-the-next-level/5173482.article



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  • Administrators Posts: 53,829 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Yea Eleven was crap. It has to be said, the sporting rights market is a total mess these days.

    I am completely unconvinced that the current market is better compared to what it was when Sky just owned everything. It certainly hasn't got any cheaper for the consumer, there is no competition in the market at all.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg




  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭timothydec77




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    No, not at all, they probably won’t even get any objections. I had kinda hoped it might shed some light on what is happening with the Irish operation but it really doesn’t tell us anything tbh.



  • Registered Users Posts: 384 ✭✭Manc-Red_


    Nice to see a HD feed on the Red Button on Sky Q tonight for Trabzonspor v Copenhagen on BT Sport 5.

    Hopefully with Sky Sports HDR4K being put onto BT's own 4K box soon we'll also finally see BT Ultimate on Q via the red button.

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


    It's been announced but delayed due to technical issues according to Sky forums



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Merger of BT Sport and Eurosport closed today:

    The new broadcaster still doesn’t have a name, but all may become clear later in the year.

    Also (to nobody’s particular surprise) CCPC has cleared the takeover of Premier Sports and FreeSports by Viaplay.

    https://www.ccpc.ie/business/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2022/08/M.22.043-Merger-Announcement.pdf



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    And FreeSports HD was removed from the ROI Sky EPG this morning



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    That’s odd, wonder what that’s about. Particularly when zombie channel BoxNation is still on the ROI EPG despite being effectively impossible to subscribe to.

    Channel is still available through the FreeSports Player app for now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    And presumably can be manually tuned as it could be before joining the EPG a little while ago



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Indeed.

    This is actually the second time it’s left the EPG, it was removed to make way for LaLiga TV, and then restored when eir Sport closed.



  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭mike2084


    Perhaps they are going to use it for URC games this season? Didn't it actually encrypt in Ireland for about two days this summer as well?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,766 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    It encrypted everywhere. The German Cup final was on and couldn't be seen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭timothydec77




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It looks like at least some Saturday LaLiga games are going over to FreeSports once the URC season starts so a bit of adding insult to injury for ROI viewers to lose that channel now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭forzacalcio


    No live La Liga on Irish TV on Saturday 17th. Ffs. (I know Freesports can be tuned in but I don't pay my sub for that)



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    When the merger is rebranded and when sky/HBO deal runs out will we see a super streaming service with Sport, Entertainment movies etc happening or would they always keep sport separately?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    May not keep Sport separate. Apple Tv Plus are going big after Sport.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    All we know at the moment really is this

    Over time, the intention is to launch a new sports brand in the market and present this combined sports offering together with an entertainment offering from Warner Bros. Discovery. 

    https://newsroom.bt.com/warner-bros-discovery-and-bt-group-close-transaction-to-form-sports-joint-venture/

    For Irish viewers, how long it might be before the latter part this launches might depend on how long the outgoing management tied BT Sport into an exclusive distribution arrangement with Sky. Don’t think it’ll be seen here this season at any rate. Also bear in mind the wider situation at WBD where the company is acquiring quite a reputation for taking the hatchet to the acquired WB operation, so what kind of entertainment offering is anyones guess.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I am leaving Sky shortly so I’ll lose Eurosport. I find the WSB and BSB races on Eurosport very good. May consider getting Discovery Plus



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