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tupac_healy · 14-07-2013 4:28pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Afaik, thats the first time you've rejected a bid from me. Twice I made bids but retracted them myself when I saw other players. So that's the first time you told me to bugger off. But don't worry; with that counter offer, I doubt I'll be back for anyone any time soon

Shall keep it in mind Always open to proper negotiations. Though 30m for an 8.8m, 89 rated player might be a bit much...

I think we both know what the future holds in store for hin ratings wise!!! Especially if he does move to England as touted

Lord TSC · 14-07-2013 4:42pm

The thing is, when looking for players under the transfer list, when I see 9 players out of ten marked as unavailable, it puts a big target on player 10 who I can bid on.

I get why people don't want to mark a player as unavailable or whatever, but it puts the target on the player and I won't apologise for bidding on that player until I'm told to bugger off. That said, how you tell me to bugger off will also determine how I bid on players in the future AND how I deal with people bidding on my players too.

Lord TSC · 14-07-2013 4:43pm

tupac_healy wrote: »

I think we both know what the future holds in store for hin ratings wise!!! Especially if he does move to England as touted

Yeah, and that's why I'd pay double and up to triple his value. But potential also has potential to not be realised so I'm not paying 30m for an 8.8m valued player.

JamboMac · 14-07-2013 4:51pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Yeah, and that's why I'd pay double and up to triple his value. But potential also has potential to not be realised so I'm not paying 30m for an 8.8m valued player.

Why would people expect such a exaggerated inflation if the player not getting played should get half of his value.

I get there a couple of kids who'd bring the football to play with and when they wouldn't be allowed score they'd spit dummy and go home. The league won't last long if it continues in this vain

Hercule Poirot · 14-07-2013 4:56pm

Guys,

What happens if there is a player you want that isn't in the database? Can you suggest them to the SM mods? Maybe get first dibs on signing?

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 14-07-2013 4:58pm

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Guys,

What happens if there is a player you want that isn't in the database? Can you suggest them to the SM mods? Maybe get first dibs on signing?

Send a ticket too SM and they create him

As for the cap on players it would be very tough too uphold..if SM themselfs impose it tho that will be different

Munster Magic · 14-07-2013 5:08pm

eireannBEAR wrote: »

deleted. i thought it was completed.

Too late, I saw it

Dont worry though, I dont rate your opinion so I will be going ahead with the transfer:p

Maldjd23 · 14-07-2013 5:09pm

JamboMac wrote: »

Why would people expect such a exaggerated inflation if the player not getting played should get half of his value.

I get there a couple of kids who'd bring the football to play with and when they wouldn't be allowed score they'd spit dummy and go home. The league won't last long if it continues in this vain

The prices some managers are asking for players in this league is mad. Any player i have sold has been put on the market for what they are worth, i have no interest in conning another manager.

For example i bid 1.7 million on a player yesterday(the max i could offer), he is worth 300 thousand. The manager counter offered asking for 30 million...I ask wtf is the point in that?? I accept a manager can value a player as he sees fit but 30 million? Would a simple not for sale not suffice?

eireannBEAR · 14-07-2013 5:10pm

Munster Magic wrote: »

Too late, I saw it

Dont worry though, I dont rate your opinion so I will be going ahead with the transfer:p

saw what? im sure i have no idea what your talking about.

batistuta9 · 14-07-2013 5:10pm

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Guys,

What happens if there is a player you want that isn't in the database? Can you suggest them to the SM mods? Maybe get first dibs on signing?

he needs to make a first team appearance, then he'll be added

send in the ticket when he does and he'll be added, though they'll probably do it anyway as they'll be loads of guys knowing about/waiting for players to make an appearance to send the ticket

you won't get him first unless you get to him first after he's added

JamboMac · 14-07-2013 5:24pm

The way it could be capped would be the wages being capped down to the attendances as how would somebody pay the wages of over 100 hundred players that's just insane.

Lord TSC · 14-07-2013 5:25pm

Maldjd23 wrote: »

The prices some managers are asking for players in this league is mad.

Meh, it's up to each manager to decide how they value a player, and it's up to each buyer to determine if it matches their valuation. If two teams make an agreement, grand. I know I paid over the odds for Hernandez and Navas, but I had the cash and felt they improved my team drastically. You say you won't screw someone but does that mean you'll take 45m right now for Hamsik or Cavani, given it's double their value? Or are those players worth more than that? 50m? 100m? Priceless?

I mean, as far as me and Tupac talking here, I can fully understand why he's asking for the huge mark up. The player in question does have quite a bit of potential based on what some sites are reporting. Which is why, as I said, I'd be willing to talk about a drastically higher price than his ingame value. That's negotiations. I make an offer. The other manager counter-offers. We offer and counter until we're both happy, having agreed a value on potential and ability. And realistically, Tupac has the power in that if he waits, the potential might come to fruition and he can get more. If I want to buy that out, then so be it.

Its when people get snarky and start counter offering 150m, Bale and Vertongen for an 8m player that I start posting rolly-eyed smilies :P If you don't want to sell a player, mark them unavailable. If you're after an offer you can't refuse, then enter negotiations and say what that offer might be.

EDIT: I'll also point out that, and this is negotiations 101, if I make an offer for a player, I tend to do a lower bid to start off with. I'm always willing to up that offer. I'm never going to start off with the ridiculous bid. :P

batistuta9 · 14-07-2013 5:55pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Its when people get snarky and start counter offering 150m, Bale and Vertongen for an 8m player that I start posting rolly-eyed smilies :P If you don't want to sell a player, mark them unavailable. If you're after an offer you can't refuse, then enter negotiations and say what that offer might be.

EDIT: I'll also point out that, and this is negotiations 101, if I make an offer for a player, I tend to do a lower bid to start off with. I'm always willing to up that offer. I'm never going to start off with the ridiculous bid. :P

The offer i couldn't refuse was 150mil + bale + vertongen, but you didn't negotiate, did you?
I probably could've been swindled down to 149 or even 148.5 and the two players :pac:
I told you before the only reason i done that was i thought you bid a few times recently, huddlestone was involved one time, so i thought it was you - i don't know if you still have him

would you not be better making a decent offer with your opening bid to make people at least interested, instead of offering a low bid, which makes you seem a bit like a chancer?

look at the prices people are paying for players, it's a bit mad because of the type of the GW.
I think the really money on players is those not quite the highest rated but just below, because it's too difficult to replace the high rated ones, so people are less willing to accept bids

tupac_healy · 14-07-2013 6:04pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Yeah, and that's why I'd pay double and up to triple his value. But potential also has potential to not be realised so I'm not paying 30m for an 8.8m valued player.

Ok.... how much for Dembele.....

See where this is going?

Wilberto · 14-07-2013 6:05pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

I'll also point out that, and this is negotiations 101, if I make an offer for a player, I tend to do a lower bid to start off with. I'm always willing to up that offer. I'm never going to start off with the ridiculous bid. :P

And yet if someone else comes in with a lower bid for one of your transfer listed players you just reject it instead of counter-offering.

Not getting snarky or anything, I'm just saying that it works both ways.

:)

tupac_healy · 14-07-2013 6:07pm

JamboMac wrote: »

Why would people expect such a exaggerated inflation if the player not getting played should get half of his value.

I get there a couple of kids who'd bring the football to play with and when they wouldn't be allowed score they'd spit dummy and go home. The league won't last long if it continues in this vain

Eh maybe because I know for a fact that this player WILL go to 90 and probably stay there for at least 4-5 season.

Thar coupled with his age and the recent talk of a move to the top teams in England MORE than justifies his price tag. Not that it is his price, I said double your offer and we can talk!!!!!!!

tupac_healy · 14-07-2013 6:08pm

Wilberto wrote: »

And yet if someone else comes in with a lower bid for one of your transfer listed players you just reject it instead of counter-offering.

Not getting snarky or anything, I'm just saying that it works both ways. :)

Oh for DAMN sure it works both ways, dont get bent out of shape lads when asked for inflated prices when ye are doing the EXACT same yourselves, its fine to do it imo but dont come on her complaining about it

tupac_healy · 14-07-2013 6:12pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Meh, it's up to each manager to decide how they value a player, and it's up to each buyer to determine if it matches their valuation. If two teams make an agreement, grand. I know I paid over the odds for Hernandez and Navas, but I had the cash and felt they improved my team drastically. You say you won't screw someone but does that mean you'll take 45m right now for Hamsik or Cavani, given it's double their value? Or are those players worth more than that? 50m? 100m? Priceless?

I mean, as far as me and Tupac talking here, I can fully understand why he's asking for the huge mark up. The player in question does have quite a bit of potential based on what some sites are reporting. Which is why, as I said, I'd be willing to talk about a drastically higher price than his ingame value. That's negotiations. I make an offer. The other manager counter-offers. We offer and counter until we're both happy, having agreed a value on potential and ability. And realistically, Tupac has the power in that if he waits, the potential might come to fruition and he can get more. If I want to buy that out, then so be it.

Its when people get snarky and start counter offering 150m, Bale and Vertongen for an 8m player that I start posting rolly-eyed smilies :P If you don't want to sell a player, mark them unavailable. If you're after an offer you can't refuse, then enter negotiations and say what that offer might be.

EDIT: I'll also point out that, and this is negotiations 101, if I make an offer for a player, I tend to do a lower bid to start off with. I'm always willing to up that offer. I'm never going to start off with the ridiculous bid. :P

Totally with you on the 150mil and 2 best players counter offer though, it was funny at the start but a simple no will do now really!!!

Maldjd23 · 14-07-2013 6:15pm

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Meh, it's up to each manager to decide how they value a player, and it's up to each buyer to determine if it matches their valuation. If two teams make an agreement, grand. I know I paid over the odds for Hernandez and Navas, but I had the cash and felt they improved my team drastically. You say you won't screw someone but does that mean you'll take 45m right now for Hamsik or Cavani, given it's double their value? Or are those players worth more than that? 50m? 100m? Priceless?

I mean, as far as me and Tupac talking here, I can fully understand why he's asking for the huge mark up. The player in question does have quite a bit of potential based on what some sites are reporting. Which is why, as I said, I'd be willing to talk about a drastically higher price than his ingame value. That's negotiations. I make an offer. The other manager counter-offers. We offer and counter until we're both happy, having agreed a value on potential and ability. And realistically, Tupac has the power in that if he waits, the potential might come to fruition and he can get more. If I want to buy that out, then so be it.

Its when people get snarky and start counter offering 150m, Bale and Vertongen for an 8m player that I start posting rolly-eyed smilies :P If you don't want to sell a player, mark them unavailable. If you're after an offer you can't refuse, then enter negotiations and say what that offer might be.

EDIT: I'll also point out that, and this is negotiations 101, if I make an offer for a player, I tend to do a lower bid to start off with. I'm always willing to up that offer. I'm never going to start off with the ridiculous bid. :P

An i paid over the odds for Lucas, i don't mind doing it for the right player and i have no bother with managers asking big money for top players who are in demand but some lads here have completely unrealistic views of their players worth. Asking serious money for players who are on the way down doesn't make sense to me.

May i point out the same manager who wanted 30 million for the 300 grand player offered me 7 mill for Zouma. It seems some people want it both ways.

Again, i accept a player is worth what a manager will pay for him and almost everyone is upping the price but i just think it is against the spirit of the game...Just my opinion.

tupac_healy · 14-07-2013 6:21pm

Maldjd23 wrote: »

An i paid over the odds for Lucas, i don't mind doing it for the right player and i have no bother with managers asking big money for top players who are in demand but some lads here have completely unrealistic views of their players worth. Asking serious money for players who are on the way down doesn't make sense to me.

May i point out the same manager who wanted 30 million for the 300 grand player offered me 7 mill for Zouma. It seems some people want it both ways.

Again, i accept a player is worth what a manager will pay for him and almost everyone is upping the price but i just think it is against the spirit of the game...Just my opinion.

Yeah its just the way of the world lad! Just hwve to put up with it I suppose!!!

I hope both managers dont mind me posting this but I was interested to get thoughts of the toulalan swap for Kebab + cash....

Interesting deal but I dunno who ho the better of it? For me I think Cabaye is a fantastic player, so I'd just about lean towards Malaga

swoody · 14-07-2013 6:25pm

seems a good time for fry to get involved!

Midlife Crashes · 14-07-2013 8:21pm

Drew with LA Galaxy. Out of the play off places.

:(

Munster Magic · 14-07-2013 8:22pm

Disaster!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damien O Grady was unable to prevent a Newcastle United defeat to Valencia.
Newcastle United slumped to a 2 - 1 defeat against Valencia in their Division 2 fixture.
Michu was on the scoresheet for his side.

GT_TDI_150 · 14-07-2013 8:22pm

Mr Freeze steered FC Porto to victory against Aston Villa.

FC Porto beat Aston Villa 4 - 0 in their Division 2 fixture.

Džeko scored a brace and was later voted Man of the Match for his performance.

N\'koulou and Jovetić were also amongst the goalscorers.

And record attendance to boot!!!

GT_TDI_150 · 14-07-2013 8:23pm

Munster Magic wrote: »

Disaster!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damien O Grady was unable to prevent a Newcastle United defeat to Valencia.
Newcastle United slumped to a 2 - 1 defeat against Valencia in their Division 2 fixture.
Michu was on the scoresheet for his side.

Wouldnt mind a few more of those from top6 teams in D2

eireannBEAR · 14-07-2013 8:24pm

Barcelona 0-0 Sunderland.

tactical masterclass by the sunderland manager.

barcelona GK victor valdes was awarded man of the match!!!

......enough said. :cool:

Munster Magic · 14-07-2013 8:25pm

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Wouldnt mind a few more of those from top6 teams in D2

Looks like you are top now anyway

Wilberto · 14-07-2013 8:25pm

Willow Murphy earned a draw with Estudiantes against Grêmio.
The match ended 1 - 1 between Estudiantes and Grêmio in their Division 3 fixture.
Roux scored the only goal for Estudiantes and was later voted Man of the Match for his performance.

KERSPLAT! · 14-07-2013 8:28pm

Got the draw meaning I'm still on top

eh i dunno · 14-07-2013 8:30pm

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Mr Freeze steered FC Porto to victory against Aston Villa.

FC Porto beat Aston Villa 4 - 0 in their Division 2 fixture.

Džeko scored a brace and was later voted Man of the Match for his performance.

N\'koulou and Jovetić were also amongst the goalscorers.

And record attendance to boot!!!

Ouch :mad: season now over...may play the kids

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