Hare Coursing

OldNotWIse

Play To Kill wrote: »

The poll has been up 5 days, if the majority of people were against coursing then surely the poll figures would reflect this by now even if the members of the hunting forum reacted sharply.

Not everybody is on boards.

When I told my friend I was on here she looked at me lke I had two heads and said , "seriously? you try to reason with boardsies?" - some people are just not into it.

It's hardly, therefore, a red sea poll.

Play To Kill

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Not everybody is on boards.

When I told my friend I was on here she looked at me lke I had two heads and said , "seriously? you try to reason with boardsies?" - some people are just not into it.

It's hardly, therefore, a red sea poll.

Thats exactly my point, there are only a handful of hunters on boards and they couldn't have skewed the poll to such an extent that after 6 days the poll reflects more people in favor of coursing than are not. Some people just can't accept that and have used the hunting forum as an excuse for the figures being as they are. I'm sure they would find it impossible to believe that someone like me, who doesn't course, hunt, shoot or live in the countryside, would have voted no to a ban. The anti side seem to think everybody bar these groups would naturally be anti coursing but thats not the case.

OldNotWIse

Play To Kill wrote: »

Thats exactly my point, there are only a handful of hunters on boards and they couldn't have skewed the poll to such an extent that after 6 days the poll reflects more people in favor of coursing than are not. Some people just can't accept that and have used the hunting forum as an excuse for the figures being as they are. I'm sure they would find it impossible to believe that someone like me, who doesn't course, hunt, shoot or live in the countryside, would have voted no to a ban. The anti side seem to think everybody bar these groups would naturally be anti coursing but thats not the case.

I think most people just dont really care either way, or have different motives. For example, some of the farmers in my parents area are against hunting deer etc but its because they dont want people trespassing on their land.

Ush1

Interesting poll results especially considering how many have voted.

I'm personally against any sport which involves terrifying an animal needlessly.

smash

Play To Kill wrote: »

Thats exactly my point, there are only a handful of hunters on boards and they couldn't have skewed the poll to such an extent that after 6 days the poll reflects more people in favor of coursing than are not. Some people just can't accept that and have used the hunting forum as an excuse for the figures being as they are.

Before there was a thread in the hunting forum which pointed this one out, the majority were against it.

Play To Kill

The margin was quite small though and its been six days since that thread, if the anti side are to be believed then the figures would not be as they are now.

Conmaicne Mara

OldNotWIse wrote: »

This post makes no sense to me...

It's almost like people are more worried about the last word or something, than whats actually being discussed...unprecedented on Boards of course

Let me be clearer then, you quoted my post which was in reply to a post saying farmers should be coursed. Your post contained nonsense in regard to the post I had quoted about coursing feeding the country.

But, you know all this, you're just trolling me.

GoldCobra

The poll doesn't matter tbh. Even if the poll was 99% Pro coursing I'd still think that coursing is wrong and I'm sure there is someone at the opposite end too.
What sucks is how people on both side of the argument are making wild accusations and stereotypes about both parties.

Reindeer

The rescue I volunteer for has taken in dozens of Coursing hounds in the last couple of months from this years batch, not to mention the dozens more from racing. There are a few good trainers that will hand over the hounds that do not make the cut or that do not earn them any money. Some are brought to us by folks whom have found them dumped in the country or cities. Some we are called out to that can barely lift their heads for having been abused or out in the cold too long without shelter or food. However, we almost never see young pups that haven't made the grade at all, and they often just cull/kill the wounded. Ireland is now one of the top, if not the top producers of Greyhounds in the world. Say what you want about the sport - it is a blood sport, and the hounds suffer horrendously for it. I see it every day of my life here in Ireland. Every damn day.

Conmaicne Mara

Isn't it ironic how a poll is suddenly irrelevant when it doesn't go someones way.

GoldCobra

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Isn't it ironic how a poll is suddenly irrelevant when it doesn't go someones way.

It's irrelevant whether pro or anti coursing, Polls don't change minds.

Sparks

GoldCobra wrote: »

Polls don't change minds.

That's not the purpose of a poll, but of a petition, surely?
Polls record; petitions try to convince.

paddy the man

yubabill1 wrote: »

UNTRUE.

The Irish red grouse population crashed when the british left and stopped maintaining the grouse moors. The population is still on the floor almost 100 years later.

Not much preservation going on there.

Interesting, so without shooting the Red Grouse is pretty much finished.

GoldCobra

Sparks wrote: »

That's not the purpose of a poll, but of a petition, surely?
Polls record; petitions try to convince.

Yes! I'm just highlighting the irrelevance of the poll in regards of changing opinion. someone people here seem hellbent on trying to change opinion but both sides seem to be secure in their points of view.

Dyr

Reindeer wrote: »

The rescue I volunteer for has taken in dozens of Coursing hounds in the last couple of months from this years batch, not to mention the dozens more from racing. There are a few good trainers that will hand over the hounds that do not make the cut or that do not earn them any money. Some are brought to us by folks whom have found them dumped in the country or cities. Some we are called out to that can barely lift their heads for having been abused or out in the cold too long without shelter or food. However, we almost never see young pups that haven't made the grade at all, and they often just cull/kill the wounded. Ireland is now one of the top, if not the top producers of Greyhounds in the world. Say what you want about the sport - it is a blood sport, and the hounds suffer horrendously for it. I see it every day of my life here in Ireland. Every damn day.

if it was'nt for field sports there'd be very few unwanted greyhounds in Ireland for you to rescue though. These noble princes of the field conserve our greyhound population at its high levels.

shanboghted

for the people who dont understand coursing watch this video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR2NYR64P2M

this is one of the greatest sports ever and hopefully wont be banned! its too important to clonmel and ireland.

OldNotWIse

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Let me be clearer then, you quoted my post which was in reply to a post saying farmers should be coursed. Your post contained nonsense in regard to the post I had quoted about coursing feeding the country.

But, you know all this, you're just trolling me.

Ah the trolling chestnut. Oh dear

OldNotWIse

Reindeer wrote: »

The rescue I volunteer for has taken in dozens of Coursing hounds in the last couple of months from this years batch, not to mention the dozens more from racing. There are a few good trainers that will hand over the hounds that do not make the cut or that do not earn them any money. Some are brought to us by folks whom have found them dumped in the country or cities. Some we are called out to that can barely lift their heads for having been abused or out in the cold too long without shelter or food. However, we almost never see young pups that haven't made the grade at all, and they often just cull/kill the wounded. Ireland is now one of the top, if not the top producers of Greyhounds in the world. Say what you want about the sport - it is a blood sport, and the hounds suffer horrendously for it. I see it every day of my life here in Ireland. Every damn day.

We rescued one (an ex racer)that had either been sold on on dumped. She was lucky her ears were still intact. They often cut them off so that they cannot be traced back. Ours was traceable back to a syndicate (somewhere in Saggart I believe). Of course we could not contact them, but it was interesting to note that as soon as she stopped performing well she ended up dumped.
Thankfully there are a lot of private individuals who do fabulous rehabilitative work with them and have contacts in the UK for re-homing, where greyhound re-homing has higher rates than here. (in fact the woman who took her from us had intended to send her to the UK for re-homing but fell in love with her and kept her. She sent me pics a few months after. What a fab creature!)

paddy the man

shanboghted wrote: »

for the people who dont understand coursing watch this video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR2NYR64P2M

this is one of the greatest sports ever and hopefully wont be banned! its too important to clonmel and ireland.

If it was just the single Course it wouldn't be too harmful to the hare (hares are not coursed more than once by dogs at meetings) since muzzling trauma injuries are quite low. My main problem which your video doesn't show is the whole package. The netting of Hares, transportation to Hare preserves, living in unnatural high densities, capture again to Coursing meeting and handling of Hares at meeting. There is a prolonged period of stress. Have there been any studies showing the breeding success of Hares post captivity?

Hare hunting with Beagles is a much more humane and impacts less severly on the Hare than Coursing since there is no prolonged period of captivity on the Hare. These hunting clubs do much habitat preservation and predator control to assist Hare numbers also.

One must point out however in the last 10 years the conditions in captivity have much improved. The Hares are feed well and recieve anthelmintic treatment

Pumpkinseeds

Cass wrote: »

I can ramble with the best of them.

Correct. Nor would i refer to those opposed to hunting in any of it's form as such. When i use the word extremist i refer to the peopl so blinded by the fight they do not stop to consider the consequences. The oes that would endanger animals, and people to "strike a blow". They are extremists is every sense of the word.

I use the word anti, in a non derogatory way, to describe the general population of anti hunting people. People that dislike it, voice their dislike, but do not engage in such extremist methods to get their point across.

It has been done though, and not once. We find it as distasteful as you or anyone opposed to hunting being described as extremists.

As is your prerogative.

We do not support any activity without being fully informed or for the sake of a row/argument. We do so to defend a tradition, and way of life that while not liked by some, or pursued by others is non the less their legal right.

I would disagree with that sentiment. No one truly knows the opinions or beliefs of all people, however from my own perspective i would say that 90% of poeple i know, am related to, am friends with, have experienced some form of field sports.

I agree with the sentiment. Open, honest discussion is good, but it rarely lasts. Both sides defend their opinions/beliefs strongly, and this always boils over. However i would argue your point about estremists on pro shooting/hunting/coursing side. We do not force our will on others to the pint that we actively seek confrontation IRL. We do not send out unsolicited e-mails, tweets, letters to people's homes, businesses, etc. We do not threaten or damage goods, property, and so on.

Now i do not dare say this is the case with everyone opposed to such endeavours. Far from it. Most are calm, intelligent people able to put their point across in reasoned debate. However those that do act in such a manner destroy any forward movement you may gain or at the very least alienate and diminish the message you try to get across.

Emotive threads always have the potential to descend into chaos, but I found it interesting to read posts where people felt/were under attack as a result of engaging in some field sports. That interests me and I'd like to know more about it.

I know some posters feel that when I said polls are irrelevant that I did so because the pro coursing numbers were stronger than those opposed. I'd like to clarify that what I meant is that I think the bigger issue that has emerged during the poll is the fact that there is violence being directed at field sports enthusiasts.

As I said earlier, I don't condone that. I just think that a thread outside of the hunting/shooting forum on how people feel about the issue would be good. I don't go into the hunting/shooting forum as I know there will be things in it that I don't want to know, then again I don't visit the gaming forums either:)

yubabill1

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Emotive threads always have the potential to descend into chaos, but I found it interesting to read posts where people felt/were under attack as a result of engaging in some field sports. That interests me and I'd like to know more about it.

I know some posters feel that when I said polls are irrelevant that I did so because the pro coursing numbers were stronger than those opposed. I'd like to clarify that what I meant is that I think the bigger issue that has emerged during the poll is the fact that there is violence being directed at field sports enthusiasts.

As I said earlier, I don't condone that. I just think that a thread outside of the hunting/shooting forum on how people feel about the issue would be good. I don't go into the hunting/shooting forum as I know there will be things in it that I don't want to know, then again I don't visit the gaming forums either:)

If you mean you would like to find out what non-hunters, fieldsports people etc think of say, hunting or coursing then I will say two things

1 Of course you would have to exclude everyone with family involved with fieldsports

2 You probably will find most of the remaining people equivocal about the subject, in the way they are equivocal about meat.

just trying to see it from an impartial viewpoint, if that is possible.

Conmaicne Mara

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Ah the trolling chestnut. Oh dear

You're tedious to respond to, so I will not be bothering any more.

Conmaicne Mara

GoldCobra wrote: »

It's irrelevant whether pro or anti coursing, Polls don't change minds.

That's not what a poll is about. It gauges opinion.

Kkeane

OldNotWIse wrote: »

We rescued one (an ex racer)that had either been sold on on dumped. She was lucky her ears were still intact. They often cut them off so that they cannot be traced back. Ours was traceable back to a syndicate (somewhere in Saggart I believe). Of course we could not contact them, but it was interesting to note that as soon as she stopped performing well she ended up dumped.
Thankfully there are a lot of private individuals who do fabulous rehabilitative work with them and have contacts in the UK for re-homing, where greyhound re-homing has higher rates than here. (in fact the woman who took her from us had intended to send her to the UK for re-homing but fell in love with her and kept her. She sent me pics a few months after. What a fab creature!)

You seem to make out that having ears cut off is a common practice which is complete rubbish. This is a common story told by people to evoke emotions for an anti coursing/hunting agenda. If you have found a greyhound discarded as you described, why were the authorities not contacted? People seem to think greyhounds are discarded and have their ears chopped of on a regular basis but the fact is this almost never occurs and that those that do such a thing are not true sports/animal/country people and should be dealt with by the law. 
I find it hard to believe someone would not contact the gardai if they allegedly know the identity of the persons. 
Greyhounds have ear marking and all can be traced by DNA testing. When I hear stories like this, and yet nothing happens to the perpetrators, I must question the credibility of such a tale.

Pumpkinseeds

Cass wrote: »

I can ramble with the best of them.

Correct. Nor would i refer to those opposed to hunting in any of it's form as such. When i use the word extremist i refer to the peopl so blinded by the fight they do not stop to consider the consequences. The oes that would endanger animals, and people to "strike a blow". They are extremists is every sense of the word.

I use the word anti, in a non derogatory way, to describe the general population of anti hunting people. People that dislike it, voice their dislike, but do not engage in such extremist methods to get their point across.

It has been done though, and not once. We find it as distasteful as you or anyone opposed to hunting being described as extremists.

As is your prerogative.

We do not support any activity without being fully informed or for the sake of a row/argument. We do so to defend a tradition, and way of life that while not liked by some, or pursued by others is non the less their legal right.

I would disagree with that sentiment. No one truly knows the opinions or beliefs of all people, however from my own perspective i would say that 90% of poeple i know, am related to, am friends with, have experienced some form of field sports.

I agree with the sentiment. Open, honest discussion is good, but it rarely lasts. Both sides defend their opinions/beliefs strongly, and this always boils over. However i would argue your point about estremists on pro shooting/hunting/coursing side. We do not force our will on others to the pint that we actively seek confrontation IRL. We do not send out unsolicited e-mails, tweets, letters to people's homes, businesses, etc. We do not threaten or damage goods, property, and so on.

Now i do not dare say this is the case with everyone opposed to such endeavours. Far from it. Most are calm, intelligent people able to put their point across in reasoned debate. However those that do act in such a manner destroy any forward movement you may gain or at the very least alienate and diminish the message you try to get across.

yubabill1 wrote: »

If you mean you would like to find out what non-hunters, fieldsports people etc think of say, hunting or coursing then I will say two things

1 Of course you would have to exclude everyone with family involved with fieldsports

2 You probably will find most of the remaining people equivocal about the subject, in the way they are equivocal about meat.

just trying to see it from an impartial viewpoint, if that is possible.

Maybe I'm not being as clear as I thought I was. What I mean is that I'm interested in hearing from people who do hunt/shoot about what they experience in terms of being harassed, attacked etc. It wasn't really something that I was aware of. I'd hear the occasional story on the news etc but its not something I'd hear of very often. I'm not disputing that it does happen. I'm just interested in hearing about it from the hunting/shooting perspective.

I don't mean a thread discussing whether or not people agree with hunting/shooting. There seems to be a lot of anger about it from what I've seen during this thread and I think having a thread about it outside of hunting/shooting would give members of that forum the opportunity to share their concerns about that to a broader spectrum of people. Of course there will be some people that take the proverbial but you will find that in After hours.

Artful_Badger

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Isn't it ironic how a poll is suddenly irrelevant when it doesn't go someones way.

Check the hunting forum, you'll see plenty of posters from this thread discount the poll the second it went up based on how they thought it would turn out.

Isnt it ironic that its suddenly credible ?

Dyr

Kkeane wrote: »

You seem to make out that having ears cut off is a common practice which is complete rubbish. This is a common story told by people to evoke emotions for an anti coursing/hunting agenda. If you have found a greyhound discarded as you described, why were the authorities not contacted? People seem to think greyhounds are discarded and have their ears chopped of on a regular basis but the fact is this almost never occurs and that those that do such a thing are not true sports/animal/country people and should be dealt with by the law. 
I find it hard to believe someone would not contact the gardai if they allegedly know the identity of the persons. 
Greyhounds have ear marking and all can be traced by DNA testing. When I hear stories like this, and yet nothing happens to the perpetrators, I must question the credibility of such a tale.

lots of one post wonders in here, welcome one and all

yubabill1

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Maybe I'm not being as clear as I thought I was. What I mean is that I'm interested in hearing from people who do hunt/shoot about what they experience in terms of being harassed, attacked etc. It wasn't really something that I was aware of. I'd hear the occasional story on the news etc but its not something I'd hear of very often. I'm not disputing that it does happen. I'm just interested in hearing about it from the hunting/shooting perspective.

I don't mean a thread discussing whether or not people agree with hunting/shooting. There seems to be a lot of anger about it from what I've seen during this thread and I think having a thread about it outside of hunting/shooting would give members of that forum the opportunity to share their concerns about that to a broader spectrum of people. Of course there will be some people that take the proverbial but you will find that in After hours.

Well you couls start here

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/letters/a-bad-day-for-democracy-29105483.html

Sparks

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Maybe I'm not being as clear as I thought I was. What I mean is that I'm interested in hearing from people who do hunt/shoot about what they experience in terms of being harassed, attacked etc. It wasn't really something that I was aware of. I'd hear the occasional story on the news etc but its not something I'd hear of very often. I'm not disputing that it does happen. I'm just interested in hearing about it from the hunting/shooting perspective.

That's what this thread is for.

Kkeane

Bambi wrote: »

lots of one post wonders in here, welcome one and all

Did you start on boards with 100+ votes or something? Think I'm entitled to start somewhere especially if it's something that interests me

Pumpkinseeds

Sparks wrote: »

That's what this thread is for.

Thank you for sharing that, but its not what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is a discussion. I'm not for a second suggesting that it will change anyones opinions. I just think it would make an interesting thread.

Artful_Badger

Kkeane wrote: »

Did you start on boards with 100+ votes or something? Think I'm entitled to start somewhere especially if it's something that interests me

Nobody is saying your not, but I think a few of us would be interested in how many registered to vote. Again not saying you're not welcome to, but it would be interesting to see.

Chicken liver

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrrhyuUpcG8

This is my favourite way to cook hare. You'de be really up for a leap after it.

Dyr

Kkeane wrote: »

Did you start on boards with 100+ votes or something? Think I'm entitled to start somewhere especially if it's something that interests me

Of course you are, it's not like you were just bussed in.

Maybe vote in that poll thing for a start or make another "no true scotsman" argument perhaps, they're always enjoyable

ejmaztec

Chicken liver wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrrhyuUpcG8

This is my favourite way to cook hare. You'de be really up for a leap after it.

Foul tasting sh1te, and even more reason for not killing 'em.:P

good logs...

I can see not a thing wrong with a hare been coursed my two dogs....the hare all ways gets away on a proper coursing track......lets face its a hare for god sake....

wexfordman

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Yeah you dont sound paranoid at all.

But its not paranoia badger, it is the stated aim of many anti organisations to ban all forms of field sports, including fishing etc.

And its a bit odd, as you yourself have said you would like to see and end to fishing and horse racing also, so how is that paraniod ?

wexfordman

ejmaztec wrote: »

Foul tasting sh1te, and even more reason for not killing 'em.:P

yeah, i have tried it, and wont be again, very strong tasting, not at all like rabbit, which is lovely!

wexfordman

paddy the man wrote: »

Interesting, so without shooting the Red Grouse is pretty much finished.

Well, red re-introduction is being run by lots of local shooting clubs, and they are not being re-introduced to shoot.

The thing that many dont understand, and I will probably get shredded for saying this, is the vast majority of people invovled in field sports have a genuine interest and love of the country and nature.

Its not a contradiction to admire an animal and prey on it at the same time. Its not a contradiction to look after the well being of a species, while hunting it at the same time. I know of schemes where species are being reintroduced, and those who do it spend enormous amount of time, energy and money into it, knowing that it will be years, even decades before they start to see real results!

ejmaztec

wexfordman wrote: »

yeah, i have tried it, and wont be again, very strong tasting, not at all like rabbit, which is lovely!

Also tastes foul.:P

Artful_Badger

wexfordman wrote: »

But its not paranoia badger, it is the stated aim of many anti organisations to ban all forms of field sports, including fishing etc.

And its a bit odd, as you yourself have said you would like to see and end to fishing and horse racing also, so how is that paraniod ?

Must have been dying to get that one out seeing as nobody would do your dirty work for you from the hunting forum

I have zero interest in discussing anything with you considering you have made it very clear how you see me and my opinion. Why would I take someone seriously who just dismisses me and everything I say without any attempt at discussing it ?

I'll leave you with one thing though to help you on your way. This exact conversation has already been had in this thread. Between you and me regards agenda. :eek:

See ya now.

wexfordman

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Must have been dying to get that one out seeing as nobody would do your dirty work for you from the hunting forum

Yeah, was absolutely kicking myself, seriously, was really grating at me to let it go.

I dont think you could refer to it as dirty work though in fairness.

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I have zero interest in discussing anything with you considering you have made it very clear how you see me and my opinion.

Hang on now badger, I very clearly stated that I respect your opinion, and your commitment to it, I think your perhaps being a bit unfair!
I still respect your stance, as a vegetarion/vegan, you have at least some credibility with it. I dont agree with you though.

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Why would I take someone seriously who just dismisses me and everything I say without any attempt at discussing it ?

Im not dismissing you, I am highlighting your views though, and I am certainly discussing them am I not ? I can hardly be accused of not discussing your veiws in fairness!

And, also, my point regarding paranoia was perfectly valid. You, as someone who would like to see and end to all forms of hunting, fishing, horse racing etc, can hardly accuse someone involved in those activities as paranoid when he is concerned that people want to see an end to all these activities ?

Artful_Badger

wexfordman wrote: »

Yeah, was absolutely kicking myself, seriously, was really grating at me to let it go.

I dont think you could refer to it as dirty work though in fairness.

Whatever it was I found the the fact you were allowed to request others make points for you in a forum you were banned from pretty underhanded. Particularly when the charter over there forbids people to question the ethics or moral soundness of hunting and bloodsports.

Hang on now badger, I very clearly stated that I respect your opinion, and your commitment to it, I think your perhaps being a bit unfair!
I still respect your stance, as a vegetarion/vegan, you have at least some credibility with it. I dont agree with you though.

You stated you respected how I stuck by my principles in one post and then said I was crackpot with an opinion not worth taking seriously in another. You made it clear you dont take me or my opinion seriously so why on earth should I extend that courtesy to you ?

Im not dismissing you, I am highlighting your views though, and I am certainly discussing them am I not ? I can hardly be accused of not discussing your veiws in fairness!

Not really. Is this a discussion of my views ? Or is it a "whats your view?" "Your a crackpot" type of a "discussion". Changing crackpot to "odd character" changed nothing in relation to that post, just allowed you to restate the point that you think me and my opinion are not worth listening to.

wexfordman wrote: »

Yea, but going by your posts, your a bit of an crackpot who also wants to see an end to fishing and horse racing, so I pretty much assume you would think that sneezing in the wrong direction towards an animal would be sh!tty

Im pretty ammazed that your more than happy to see the extinction of species though!

And, also, my point regarding paranoia was perfectly valid. You, as someone who would like to see and end to all forms of hunting, fishing, horse racing etc, can hardly accuse someone involved in those activities as paranoid when he is concerned that people want to see an end to all these activities ?

As I told you we have discussed this very point in relation to agenda and I'm not going to go over it again. Certainly not considering the above.

Kkeane

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Nobody is saying your not, but I think a few of us would be interested in how many registered to vote. Again not saying you're not welcome to, but it would be interesting to see.

I also think it would be interesting. I'm a reader for quite sometime, and didn't register to vote but to comment. But i agree it would be interesting to see how many just registered to vote as I see a prominent anti coursing campaigner tweeted to people both here and abroad to vote yes so I can imagine that attracted quite a lot of votes in favour. Not sure why people abroad were canvassed bar just to swing the vote as they would not be aware of what coursing in Ireland involves as it is different from anything abroad

wexfordman

Artful_Badger wrote: »

As I told you we have discussed this very point in relation to agenda and I'm not going to go over it again. Certainly not considering the above.

Can you expand on that one a bit,

I mean if he was saying he was afraid the fbi was monitoring his phone calls, that would be baseless paranioa, but his concern is regarding somethting which many animal rights groups advocate, and you yourself would like to see happening.

In summary, how do you specifically address the following:-

1) You wishing for an end to all forms of field sports, including fishing and horse racing.
2) Similar calls for similar bans from various different animal rights groups.
3) You inferring a poster was paranoid because he was concerned about an agenda to end all forms of field sports.!

Artful_Badger

Kkeane wrote: »

I also think it would be interesting. I'm a reader for quite sometime, and didn't register to vote but to comment. But i agree it would be interesting to see how many just registered to vote as I see a prominent anti coursing campaigner tweeted to people both here and abroad to vote yes so I can imagine that attracted quite a lot of votes in favour. Not sure why people abroad were canvassed bar just to swing the vote as they would not be aware of what coursing in Ireland involves as it is different from anything abroad

I assumed you registered to vote seeing as you registered yesterday and didnt comment until today.

I heard about some prominent campaigners tweets but didnt see it and not sure how many would have actually registered. I didnt note that many in the thread after the usual AH start that were anti coursing bar a few posters like myself. Going by the word of the hunting forum these extremists like to hijack these things but thats not at all what happened. Quite the opposite in fact.

Artful_Badger

wexfordman wrote: »

Can you expand on that one a bit

No.

wexfordman

Artful_Badger wrote: »

No.

I figured as much!!

Micky Dolenz

Mod

Alright lads, let it go and move on.

wexfordman

Artful_Badger wrote: »

I heard about some prominent campaigners tweets but didnt see it and not sure how many would have actually registered. I didnt note that many in the thread after the usual AH start that were anti coursing bar a few posters like myself. Going by the word of the hunting forum these extremists like to hijack these things but thats not at all what happened. Quite the opposite in fact.

So, you are aware of a call from established organisations to flood the poll, you are aware also of the hunting forum highlghting the poll, you are not sure how many registered to vote on the poll, yet you are sure that "quite the opposite" happened!:cool: