Waterford Airport

L1011 · 19-08-2014 1:57pm

man98 wrote: »

I was under the impression that Stobart just wet leased planes out to other airlines now?

No, they operate the craft themselves under a franchise agreement. Really rather different.

man98 · 19-08-2014 2:00pm

MYOB wrote: »

No, they operate the craft themselves under a franchise agreement. Really rather different.

But Stobart Air don't run flights themselves.

Plane Fan · 19-08-2014 2:21pm

Yah I think Stobart Air are the best option to London possibly under the flybe code share but more likely under aer lingus regional. But there is the chance that flybe might take it too but it's taking while. Hopefully someone will start a London route by summer 2015. I hope that the Manchester route comes back it's seems to be ending in October but no confirmation.

L1011 · 19-08-2014 2:27pm

man98 wrote: »

But Stobart Air don't run flights themselves.

They do; they just don't sell the tickets.

Plane Fan · 19-08-2014 2:39pm

Ye flights are stobart crew and planes tickets are jus sold by aer lingus and flybe and fleet is branded respectively

man98 · 19-08-2014 2:50pm

Plane Fan wrote: »

Ye flights are stobart crew and planes tickets are jus sold by aer lingus and flybe and fleet is branded respectively

I'm aware of that, but they don't pick what routes they fly to really. They pick their bases, and Aer Lingus Regional and Flybe have moulded everything around them, but they pick the routes at the end of the day. As has been shown a few pages back, Southend was a bad performer with WAT flights.

Plane Fan · 19-08-2014 3:22pm

man98 wrote: »

I'm aware of that, but they don't pick what routes they fly to really. They pick their bases, and Aer Lingus Regional and Flybe have moulded everything around them, but they pick the routes at the end of the day. As has been shown a few pages back, Southend was a bad performer with WAT flights.

Ye it was a bad performer alright that was the mistake the switch from LTN

L1011 · 19-08-2014 3:53pm

man98 wrote: »

I'm aware of that, but they don't pick what routes they fly to really. They pick their bases, and Aer Lingus Regional and Flybe have moulded everything around them, but they pick the routes at the end of the day. As has been shown a few pages back, Southend was a bad performer with WAT flights.

Its not that simple. Aer Lingus / Flybe don't dictate their entire route policy at all.

man98 · 20-08-2014 4:39pm

As partof my search for a Waterford - London service, I emailed Etihad Regional (Darwin Airlines) asking to consider a Stansted - Waterford service (they fly Düsseldorf - Stansted) and I got a rather interesting reply. They say they will look into it and (maybe I'm misinterpreting this) "We look forward to welcoming you on board in the near future."

L1011 · 20-08-2014 5:10pm

That would be boilerplate put on any response at all most likely.

aurigny72 · 20-08-2014 5:26pm

wellboytoo wrote: »

Strong rumour Stobart looking for 40 pilots for next spring, maybe they took up that option on the 4 new ATR's, hopefully WAT in the picture!

Can you give us anymore info on this strong rumour, like where you heard this from?

Jamie2k9 · 20-08-2014 5:30pm

"We look forward to welcoming you on board in the near future.

Yes you are, this is just standard line on an email.

SEN are due to announce more routes soon with Flybe, the airport have WAT in mind but it will be up to Flybe/Stobart if they want to try again.

I would be quietly confident WAT has being discussed!

man98 · 20-08-2014 5:32pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Yes you are, this is just standard line on an email.

SEN are due to announce more routes soon with Flybe, the airport have WAT in mind but it will be up to Flybe/Stobart if they want to try again.

While I may not be PRO-SEN, the route would make money if LTN was unavailable.

Growler!!! · 20-08-2014 5:40pm

aurigny72 wrote: »

Can you give us anymore info on this strong rumour, like where you heard this from?

Sobart management at Farnborough earlier this year, having a chat with ATR.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jjfcarr/media/grid?idx=4&tid=490159312111939584

b757 · 20-08-2014 10:10pm

MAN definitely ending after October according to Flybe customer service.

BHX up to at least April '15.

Plane Fan · 20-08-2014 10:22pm

Southend with flybe/ stobart seems to be our best hope as regards Darwin they are just being polite. I seriously hope that flybe dropping Manchester isn't true. That route developed so much this summer load factor and demand wise 80+ % most days!

fr336 · 20-08-2014 10:23pm

So is BHX the only real route for Waterford now?!

b757 · 20-08-2014 10:23pm

Not a chance of Darwin, they are long out of the picture.

Still in talks with one airline.

fr336 · 20-08-2014 10:34pm

Talks for what kind of route?

man98 · 20-08-2014 11:02pm

I did make a good case to Darwin. Etihad codeshare with EI already, meaning WAT advertised as an EI destination. They pick up passengers etc. It looks much better than the blunt 'no' I got from every single British carrier who bothered replying. Not a hoot from Stobart, BA or WX.

b757 · 20-08-2014 11:03pm

man98 wrote: »

I did make a good case to Darwin. Etihad codeshare with EI already, meaning WAT advertised as an EI destination. They pick up passengers etc. It looks much better than the blunt 'no' I got from every single British carrier who bothered replying. Not a hoot from Stobart, BA or WX.

Talks with Darwin fell through months ago. Highly unlikely, but they were the front runners for awhile.

Pity, would have loved to see their S2000's in and out.

man98 · 20-08-2014 11:06pm

b757 wrote: »

Talks with Darwin fell through months ago. Highly unlikely, but they were the front runners for awhile.

Pity, would have loved to see their S2000's in and out.

Any hint as to why they fell through?

EICVD · 21-08-2014 11:26am

I wouldn't worry about MAN being dropped, if loads/ yields were as good as people here are saying it'll probably be back for S15.

Plane Fan · 21-08-2014 11:57am

EICVD wrote: »

I wouldn't worry about MAN being dropped, if loads/ yields were as good as people here are saying it'll probably be back for S15.

The loads are definitely good on it

man98 · 25-08-2014 1:36am

They'll be announcing something in the next month anyway. They won't leave it later than that.

Plane Fan · 25-08-2014 2:00am

man98 wrote: »

They'll be announcing something in the next month anyway. They won't leave it later than that.

As regards Manchester?

man98 · 25-08-2014 11:19am

Plane Fan wrote: »

As regards Manchester?

Yep. If it ends in late October...

Plane Fan · 25-08-2014 11:33am

man98 wrote: »

Yep. If it ends in late October...

Ya there pros won't b an announcement/ update until the summer schedule is launched in late October

man98 · 27-08-2014 5:22pm

Plane Fan wrote: »

Ya there pros won't b an announcement/ update until the summer schedule is launched in late October

According to Flybe " Regarding the Waterford to Manchester flights this route has been withdrawn and the last operating date will be on the 24 October 2014."

Plane Fan · 27-08-2014 5:42pm

man98 wrote: »

According to Flybe " Regarding the Waterford to Manchester flights this route has been withdrawn and the last operating date will be on the 24 October 2014."

Ahh no that's not good and for the first time in 3 years demand and loads grew. Looks like for the second time in 20 months that I'll b standing at the fence waving goodbye to another Manchester route

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